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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 10:09:00 GMT -5
Any "VIP" package that doesn't allow you either access to the soundcheck or a meet-and-great with the artist is a total scam. Definitely not worth hundreds of dollars for buttons, t-shirts, and "autographed" records (which are actually stamped by a machine or a roadie).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 10:09:13 GMT -5
That's because some 2nd market sellers get allotments guaranteed to them, so they can publish tix early. It's a crap practice for the average fan. In fairness to Noel... there really isn't much he can do about any of the issues being discussed here. He is at the mercy of the venues most of the time. now that's total and utter bullshit, bordering on illegal. i'm sure there are lots of people involved on the inside getting their cut, that's why it is allowed to continue. I should clarify... they get allotments and this allows them to publish tix early. Not that they should publish early. It's also not uncommon for 2nd market sellers to cancel orders and refund tix if they sell more than what they ultimately get allotted. It is a shady practice for sure. And there has been some recent legislation going about to try and curb this behavior, but we all know that when money is involved then there will be nefarious things going on. |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 26, 2017 11:14:54 GMT -5
I just looked at the Celebrity Talent website to see how much Noel gets for a show in the States. It's $300,000-$499,000 per show. So, that's grossing $6-10 Millions in the US alone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 11:39:22 GMT -5
I just looked at the Celebrity Talent website to see how much Noel gets for a show in the States. It's $300,000-$499,000 per show. So, that's grossing $6-10 Millions in the US alone. Does that take into account?: Subtract 50% for the venue Subtract $____ for travel and hotel Subtract <5% for the opening act Add $____ for merchandise |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 26, 2017 12:25:38 GMT -5
I just looked at the Celebrity Talent website to see how much Noel gets for a show in the States. It's $300,000-$499,000 per show. So, that's grossing $6-10 Millions in the US alone. Does that take into account?: Subtract 50% for the venue Subtract $____ for travel and hotel Subtract <5% for the opening act Add $____ for merchandise Don't the venues sell the tickets? If so, then the artists wouldn't pay a fee to the venue. They are being hired BY the venue. All others are NOT accounted for. That's the gross, not the net. |
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Post by sammaz on Sept 26, 2017 14:54:52 GMT -5
Is there an easy way to get the presale code for the U.S. tour? I’ve preordered the vinyl and picture disc and CD bundle but only have presale access to the UK tour. I want to get tickets to come to the U.S. though?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 15:28:48 GMT -5
Is there an easy way to get the presale code for the U.S. tour? I’ve preordered the vinyl and picture disc and CD bundle but only have presale access to the UK tour. I want to get tickets to come to the U.S. though?! Click on your chosen date below to access the venue pre-sale and enter the code WHOBUILT. |
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Post by sammaz on Sept 26, 2017 15:43:18 GMT -5
Is there an easy way to get the presale code for the U.S. tour? I’ve preordered the vinyl and picture disc and CD bundle but only have presale access to the UK tour. I want to get tickets to come to the U.S. though?! Click on your chosen date below to access the venue pre-sale and enter the code WHOBUILT. Thank you, really appreciate it. Hoping to get New York tickets. |
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Post by NicOasis on Sept 26, 2017 15:48:01 GMT -5
COME YOU VANCOUVER BC AAAAAAHHHHH.
Whys it gotta be cold AND wet over here?
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 26, 2017 21:46:07 GMT -5
Does that take into account?: Subtract 50% for the venue Subtract $____ for travel and hotel Subtract <5% for the opening act Add $____ for merchandise Don't the venues sell the tickets? If so, then the artists wouldn't pay a fee to the venue. They are being hired BY the venue. All others are NOT accounted for. That's the gross, not the net. Stage and crew and all would have to be paid too, wouldn't they? Those are all big expenses, as a tour is a big operation. Can't say I'm disappointed by the dates, as there's only ever 1 or maybe 2 Canadian dates. Except for the DOYS tour, and HFB in 2012 with Snowpatrol. Of the American dates, Minneapolis would have been best for me but I guess it's not meant to be again. I didn't get to see Noel on the CY tour either. |
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Post by Jessica on Sept 26, 2017 21:59:30 GMT -5
FYI... On the email, the Dallas date is linked to the Las Vegas venue. So you want to grab the link from the website.
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Post by smash on Sept 26, 2017 23:16:23 GMT -5
I just looked at the Celebrity Talent website to see how much Noel gets for a show in the States. It's $300,000-$499,000 per show. So, that's grossing $6-10 Millions in the US alone. I worked for bands and booking agencies for years. That's a complete piece of fiction. Let's take a 3,000 capacity venue with an average ticket price of 60 (before fees) = $180,000. Most deals are structured as a guarantee vs a percentage. In that case the guarantee is a much lower amount. The deal for most of these venues is probably a $25k-50k guarantee vs 85 percent. Even in the most favorable deals, the artist probably would only walk with $155k - and out of that they pay tour costs. Labels frequently help with your costs as many tours don't break even, but even those advances are recoupable from sales (and don't think Noel has a deal that would have that as an option). You can't play every day, so even with sell outs you make about 600k a week, and then pay crew, band, hotels, transport... |
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Post by piggyammo on Sept 26, 2017 23:17:10 GMT -5
Is there an easy way to get the presale code for the U.S. tour? I’ve preordered the vinyl and picture disc and CD bundle but only have presale access to the UK tour. I want to get tickets to come to the U.S. though?! Click on your chosen date below to access the venue pre-sale and enter the code WHOBUILT. Thanks! hope to score some good seats in Toronto  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 6:16:20 GMT -5
Is there an easy way to get the presale code for the U.S. tour? I’ve preordered the vinyl and picture disc and CD bundle but only have presale access to the UK tour. I want to get tickets to come to the U.S. though?! Click on your chosen date below to access the venue pre-sale and enter the code WHOBUILT. has anyone received the email with the code yet? i still haven't received mine. is WHOBUILT confirmed for all shows? many thanks.found it, the email went to my spam folder.  many thanks again! |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 27, 2017 7:07:19 GMT -5
I just looked at the Celebrity Talent website to see how much Noel gets for a show in the States. It's $300,000-$499,000 per show. So, that's grossing $6-10 Millions in the US alone. I worked for bands and booking agencies for years. That's a complete piece of fiction. Let's take a 3,000 capacity venue with an average ticket price of 60 (before fees) = $180,000. Most deals are structured as a guarantee vs a percentage. In that case the guarantee is a much lower amount. The deal for most of these venues is probably a $25k-50k guarantee vs 85 percent. Even in the most favorable deals, the artist probably would only walk with $155k - and out of that they pay tour costs. Labels frequently help with your costs as many tours don't break even, but even those advances are recoupable from sales (and don't think Noel has a deal that would have that as an option). You can't play every day, so even with sell outs you make about 600k a week, and then pay crew, band, hotels, transport... Makes a lot of sense. Now, the question.....if many tours don't break even, and nobody but the record companies are making money off of recorded music, how do artists make any money? Merch? |
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Post by photogirl on Sept 27, 2017 7:40:47 GMT -5
I worked for bands and booking agencies for years. That's a complete piece of fiction. Let's take a 3,000 capacity venue with an average ticket price of 60 (before fees) = $180,000. Most deals are structured as a guarantee vs a percentage. In that case the guarantee is a much lower amount. The deal for most of these venues is probably a $25k-50k guarantee vs 85 percent. Even in the most favorable deals, the artist probably would only walk with $155k - and out of that they pay tour costs. Labels frequently help with your costs as many tours don't break even, but even those advances are recoupable from sales (and don't think Noel has a deal that would have that as an option). You can't play every day, so even with sell outs you make about 600k a week, and then pay crew, band, hotels, transport... Makes a lot of sense. Now, the question.....if many tours don't break even, and nobody but the record companies are making money off of recorded music, how do artists make any money? Merch? Why do you think NG is always telling us to buy a t-shirt? LOL |
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Post by photogirl on Sept 27, 2017 7:45:03 GMT -5
Ugghhhhh.....the fangirl in me can't imagine missing anything VIP, etc. for Noel but the grown-up and logical person (who read abysmal Yelp reviews of the VIP experience company) knows I can't. Also if I'm paying $400 CAD a ticket (that one DOES include a ticket, right?), I'm not guaranteed rows 1-3?! That's the biggest no for me in this equation...  |
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Post by noliamno on Sept 27, 2017 7:45:41 GMT -5
Makes a lot of sense. Now, the question.....if many tours don't break even, and nobody but the record companies are making money off of recorded music, how do artists make any money? Merch? Why do you think NG is always telling us to buy a t-shirt? LOL True....True...... |
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Post by magicpie32 on Sept 27, 2017 7:57:38 GMT -5
Ugghhhhh.....the fangirl in me can't imagine missing anything VIP, etc. for Noel but the grown-up and logical person (who read abysmal Yelp reviews of the VIP experience company) knows I can't. Also if I'm paying $400 CAD a ticket (that one DOES include a ticket, right?), I'm not guaranteed rows 1-3?! That's the biggest no for me in this equation... The Yelp and Facebook reviews of CID Entertainment (VIP experience company) are very poor. I was really interested in the idea of the Enhanced Experience, but for the cost (and not guaranteeing rows 1-3, or meet and greets) I cannot fathom the idea of paying for this. Came close to getting sucked it; it will certainly suck finding out that the VIP wasn't worth shelling out the extra $$$ for. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 8:28:34 GMT -5
i would totally do the VIP if it included a meet and greet with noel backstage. but as it is, to me it looks like a total ripoff.
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Post by bestwick8 on Sept 27, 2017 8:44:32 GMT -5
Does anyone think Noel will come back to North America later 2018 for another leg?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 9:05:15 GMT -5
Pre-Sell is not working properly. I'm super bummed. apparently, it is a pre-sell for the VIP packages only. |
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2017 9:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by bestwick8 on Sept 27, 2017 9:06:41 GMT -5
FUCK, was anyone else not able to get normal tickets for the fan club pre sale? Tried for Nashville and only those VIP packages were available.
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Post by rpf1979 on Sept 27, 2017 9:06:43 GMT -5
Pre-Sell is not working properly. I'm super bummed. Yeah, getting errors from Ticketmaster when I try to search tickets after using the pre-sale code. |
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