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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 14:59:30 GMT -5
I feel like the line "I played it to a bunch of people who aren't Oasis fans and they loved it" is the new version of the grade school line of "of course I have a girlfriend, she just lives in another town". I keep reading this stuff on various other band forums. Not just oasis. Does this stuff actually happen?!? Don't know about that but I just went to a care home and played WOG and all the old people got up and started dancing and said it was better than Elvis.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 13, 2017 15:10:43 GMT -5
I feel like the line "I played it to a bunch of people who aren't Oasis fans and they loved it" is the new version of the grade school line of "of course I have a girlfriend, she just lives in another town". I keep reading this stuff on various other band forums. Not just oasis. Does this stuff actually happen?!? Not really mate, it´s not like that, at least for me. I actually have a group-chat on WhatsApp with my best mates where we talk a lot, share music, new stuff from all bands. And they are actually surprised with Chinatown and FWIW because it´s different from what they expect to come out of a Gallagher, specially Liam and they did not like WoG because it´s too repetitive and basically a loop of the same beat until the end. They are not Oasis fans by any means, and nor their opinion should be generalized but just goes to show that songs reach people in different ways. What we may consider good or exciting might be boring for another. That´s why i feel sometimes it makes no sense trying to convince users here that something is not that good, we are different in tastes. Discuss? Absolutely, but not force people to change their views on how good or how much they like a tune, because that cannot be changed, it´s our tastes at the end of the day. Of course there are exceptions, some stuff are just so bad that i can´t imagine like someone can like it...Little James comes to mind. Are you trying to say all those 12 year olds at camp really didn't have girlfriends living in another town?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 15:18:42 GMT -5
Not really mate, it´s not like that, at least for me. I actually have a group-chat on WhatsApp with my best mates where we talk a lot, share music, new stuff from all bands. And they are actually surprised with Chinatown and FWIW because it´s different from what they expect to come out of a Gallagher, specially Liam and they did not like WoG because it´s too repetitive and basically a loop of the same beat until the end. They are not Oasis fans by any means, and nor their opinion should be generalized but just goes to show that songs reach people in different ways. What we may consider good or exciting might be boring for another. That´s why i feel sometimes it makes no sense trying to convince users here that something is not that good, we are different in tastes. Discuss? Absolutely, but not force people to change their views on how good or how much they like a tune, because that cannot be changed, it´s our tastes at the end of the day. Of course there are exceptions, some stuff are just so bad that i can´t imagine like someone can like it...Little James comes to mind. Are you trying to say all those 12 year olds at camp really didn't have girlfriends living in another town? Man, i don´t know how things are there in America but we never talked about girls when we were 12 here. It was all video games and music pretty much lmao.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 13, 2017 15:20:28 GMT -5
You Gave Liam a 7? But you gave Liam a 10!?
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Post by Stemot on Aug 13, 2017 15:25:24 GMT -5
I've seen people questioning peoples judgement of people who like this song as much to give it a 10. That's up to them whatever their reason. Different music resonates differently with different people. Members of an Oasis message board should recognise that given how much grief they had to endure from 2000 onward. Just let people enjoy what they like, however extreme that may seem to you. I enjoy learning about people's varied interests in music. On a micro level, this is a key reason why I participate in this forum. At no point in my posts did I suggest what people should or should not enjoy. I only expressed genuine curiosity about the extreme ratings of 1 and 10. I figured that would make for an interesting discussion. I suppose I was wrong. Fair enough. Mate, you misunderstand. I wasn't directing anything at you personally. It wasn't your post that originally made me write what I did. Don't mean to offend.
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Post by Plantpot on Aug 13, 2017 15:37:42 GMT -5
I enjoy learning about people's varied interests in music. On a micro level, this is a key reason why I participate in this forum. At no point in my posts did I suggest what people should or should not enjoy. I only expressed genuine curiosity about the extreme ratings of 1 and 10. I figured that would make for an interesting discussion. I suppose I was wrong. Fair enough. Mate, you misunderstand. I wasn't directing anything at you personally. It wasn't your post that originally made me write what I did. Don't mean to offend. No personal offense taken whatsoever, mate. I appreciate this discussion. Cheers!
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Post by sirpsychosexy on Aug 13, 2017 17:58:00 GMT -5
I feel like the line "I played it to a bunch of people who aren't Oasis fans and they loved it" is the new version of the grade school line of "of course I have a girlfriend, she just lives in another town". I keep reading this stuff on various other band forums. Not just oasis. Does this stuff actually happen?!? It does, it's pretty common. Group chats for random memes and talk or just regular chat. Everyday I get shitton of links and I send shitton of links to songs from artist I like or don't like or even don't know. It's pretty easy to share a song with someone. It's your fault that you are old
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 13, 2017 18:09:11 GMT -5
I feel like the line "I played it to a bunch of people who aren't Oasis fans and they loved it" is the new version of the grade school line of "of course I have a girlfriend, she just lives in another town". I keep reading this stuff on various other band forums. Not just oasis. Does this stuff actually happen?!? It does, it's pretty common. Group chats for random memes and talk or just regular chat. Everyday I get shitton of links and I send shitton of links to songs from artist I like or don't like or even don't know. It's pretty easy to share a song with someone. It's your fault that you are old This has nothing to do with age. Or sharing music. I'm just shocked how often I read (not just on this forum) that when a song is very mixed by the hardcore fans someone tells a story of playing it to others and it's a hit for them. Idk. I just don't see that happen too much in my circles. Maybe it's just me. I got friends who will put on a Phish album or NIN or Brand New and it's clears the room out.
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Aug 13, 2017 18:58:21 GMT -5
Gave it a 6.
Was quite disappointed with this one, not entirely sure what I was expecting but this song just doesn't really do anything for me at all. Absolutely brilliant vocal from Liam though.
Wall of Glass comfortably the best song released so far (have been avoiding all the live ones we don't have album versions of yet).
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Post by holidayinthesun on Aug 13, 2017 23:31:24 GMT -5
9.
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Post by World71R on Aug 14, 2017 0:43:23 GMT -5
About an 8.
It's nothing groundbreaking or one that'll set the music world ablaze for how genius it is, but it's a very good song and one that I could picture myself listening to three or four years from now and being delighted with it like I did the first time I heard it. Liam and his producers did a great job with this song and I can tell it's Liam's soul and words but being guided in the right direction, which is something Beady Eye lacked. It almost makes me wonder what would've happened had Liam received the input he's receiving now on songs like The Morning Son, Start Anew, and Evil Eye...
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Post by carlober on Aug 14, 2017 3:06:01 GMT -5
i think little james (in particular the demo) is better than anything i've heard so far from liam's new album. All right, let's be serious now...
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Post by mossy on Aug 14, 2017 11:08:48 GMT -5
I am quite sure Death in Vegas for instance will always pick up the phone. Given that Richard Fearless hated his brief brush with fame and has retired from the limelight to make krautrock albums and work with porn stars I'm not so sure about that.
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Post by spud on Aug 14, 2017 11:55:31 GMT -5
Pretty bad this. Seems obvious to me now that the relative hype for it was paid for. Even John Doran brought it up in conversation for that Noisey interview which I'm 90% sure he wouldn't have done without it being some sort of contractual requirement. I think on reflection Greedy Soul is my favourite of the tracks we've heard so far.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 14, 2017 11:55:59 GMT -5
yesterday night i was channel hopping and was pleasently surprised when i found that noel's paris '15 was fully braodcasted on arte. great tv channel, europeans know what i mean. while watching noel doing his thing, it struck me, why it works for him, but not for liam. there are several things: 1. the songs. noel always knew how to write a song, still does. he has that thing for melodies, which is god given. even his weakest outputs are miles better than what liam and his team came up with. his new songs don't sound as if he's trying to relive the past, but they sound like noel gallagher in 2015 (in that particular case), whereas liam's songs sound as if he's still trying to copy john lennon in 1995, or an oasis fan band, that tries to sound like oasis, and fails miserably. and the melodies are close to be ridiculous sometimes (especially in fwiw). 2. the band. noel's guys are (were, 2015...) clearly the better musicans. and it's not even close. and they're having a chemistry when they are playing together. they sound like real professionals, that have rehearsed for many, many hours. 3. noel delivers. always. if you attend a noel gig, you know what to expect. voice, songs, band. it'll be on par with his best performances before. liam you never know. could be hit, could be miss, could be a no-show. these 3 things basically, where the songs take the major role. i was really surprised that i even somehow enjoyed his boring renditions of champagne supernova and dlbia. even the mexican, which i don't think it's a good song, i somehow enjoyed live. broken arrow, (stranded on) the wrong beach, dream on... etc. even noel by numbers dying of the light. they are from a song perspective so much superior to what i've heard from liam so far, it's hilarious. i only realized that when i watched that show yesterday after not having listend to noel's back catalogue in a while. Would like you to put up some examples in regard to your first point. Most of the rest is a matter of opinion. You seem to find it difficult to accept someone may have a different opinion to your own and while it seems like you have put a little more effort in to this post than your usual one line baiting its nothing more than a vehicle to get another rise out of someone. I don't doubt the show was broadcast, wouldn't surprise me if you hadn't even watched it though.
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Post by spud on Aug 14, 2017 11:59:07 GMT -5
About an 8. It's nothing groundbreaking or one that'll set the music world ablaze for how genius it is, but it's a very good song and one that I could picture myself listening to three or four years from now and being delighted with it like I did the first time I heard it. Liam and his producers did a great job with this song and I can tell it's Liam's soul and words but being guided in the right direction, which is something Beady Eye lacked. It almost makes me wonder what would've happened had Liam received the input he's receiving now on songs like The Morning Son, Start Anew, and Evil Eye... To me it sounds like it was written solely by Liam. Not sure how much it really differs in quality from something like Evil Eye which I think is probably the Liam song it most reminds me of.
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Post by neila83 on Aug 14, 2017 12:20:19 GMT -5
I've just realised what it reminds me of; the end of the chorus with 'sometimes we lose our way, for what it's worth' sounds like it could be the theme song to some sappy 80s American sitcom. I can't hear anything else now, it'd work perfectly if someone was putting together parody title credits.
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Post by joladella on Aug 14, 2017 12:29:51 GMT -5
Listened to it in full again after a few days without and changed from 7 to 8. I think its a beautiful song, especially the verses, and Liam sounds great.
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Post by jxing on Aug 14, 2017 12:53:14 GMT -5
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Post by sirpsychosexy on Aug 14, 2017 15:00:51 GMT -5
Listened to the song today again after not listening to it yesterday. Vocal melody is sooo good. It's really a shame that instrumental isn't better, just a bit different sounding and louder guitars would do wonders.
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Post by mancraider on Aug 14, 2017 17:22:28 GMT -5
I just think it ends a bit abruptly. I'm no songwriter so I don't know exactly what it needs but maybe the last 'sometimes we lose our way' could be repeated a few times over an extended outro with a change I the melody, or something. Good song though.
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Post by NY on Aug 14, 2017 18:37:59 GMT -5
i voted '7' when i first heard it, i was rather excited. but i think the other two tracks are far better, even chinatown, which isnt that good.
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Post by theone on Aug 14, 2017 18:59:38 GMT -5
Better than most of everything Noel has written
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Post by sgtpeppr on Aug 14, 2017 22:14:57 GMT -5
Better than most of everything Noel has written too obvious. try again...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 5:15:57 GMT -5
Better than most of everything Noel has written Alright Liam
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