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Post by Rolo on Aug 8, 2017 5:23:21 GMT -5
Really great interview. Interviewer did a good job of asking him some new questions as well.
Find it interesting that Liam said he sang 4 of Noel's songs off Chasing Yesterday..
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Post by Jim on Aug 8, 2017 5:29:39 GMT -5
Noel would insist on Andy. LOL. Exactly. If, and a huge IF at that, Oasis ever became a band again it would be Liam, Noel, Gem, Chris and Russell from HFB. Bonehead will make a couple appearances at Manchester and Glasgow as he has done with Liam and Beady Eye.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 8, 2017 5:31:53 GMT -5
Really interesting and good interview.
But, surely he must be confusing Everybody's On The Run with something else? Record Machine perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 5:42:44 GMT -5
Why is everybody so sure EOTR was written on tour in 2009?
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Post by Manualex on Aug 8, 2017 6:01:34 GMT -5
Why is everybody so sure EOTR was written on tour in 2009? Because it was soundchecked in tye southamerica/southeast asia legs of the tour? And it wasnt a full band soundcheck(from memory could be wrong).
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Post by forestfan on Aug 8, 2017 6:07:07 GMT -5
Exactly every song he was doing like that by himself until he realsied that people were putting them on youtube- i dont rememebr any soundcheck 'leaks' on the CY tour
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Post by eva on Aug 8, 2017 7:53:10 GMT -5
EOTR soundcheck in Rio de Janeiro, May 2009
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 8:00:27 GMT -5
EOTR soundcheck in Rio de Janeiro, May 2009 Things like this make me wonder if Noel keeping certain tracks for himself or not in the discussion of DOYS kinda added to the conflict between them two.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 9:33:45 GMT -5
'those songs don't belong to (noel), or to me.... they belong to everyone.'
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Post by andymorris on Aug 8, 2017 9:41:29 GMT -5
The songs belong to whoever writes them. The rest of Humanity is benefiting from them, the one who sings them included.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 8, 2017 9:46:57 GMT -5
Really great interview. Interviewer did a good job of asking him some new questions as well. Find it interesting that Liam said he sang 4 of Noel's songs off Chasing Yesterday.. I was trying to figure that out based on quotes about the songs. It seems only Lock All The Doors was the only one. Maybe Freaky Teeth but that isn't really on Chasing Yesterday. So much of that album was written post Oasis.
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Post by jxing on Aug 8, 2017 9:55:39 GMT -5
This interview made me go back to this one in 2011... at the time I don't think many people believed his version. I keep wondering what Noel is going to say (if anything) in response to LG.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 8, 2017 9:59:42 GMT -5
Really great interview. Interviewer did a good job of asking him some new questions as well. Find it interesting that Liam said he sang 4 of Noel's songs off Chasing Yesterday.. I was trying to figure that out based on quotes about the songs. It seems only Lock All The Doors was the only one. Maybe Freaky Teeth but that isn't really on Chasing Yesterday. So much of that album was written post Oasis. Maybe You Know We Can't Go Back? I'm not really sure of the origins for that song and it is one of the more typical Oasis sounding songs. Short of that, we the Mexican, The Right Stuff, Ballad of the Mighty I, and Riverman originated with the AA sessions. The Dying of the Light has been kicking about for sometime, but that song seems so....Noel, I can't imagine a Liam take being somewhere out there. And, as I recall, In the Heat of the Moment was the last song recorded for CY. And as I recall, WTSRMS is about Noel reflecting on his home and his children. That doesn't come as a DOYS-era track for some reason. That leaves: Lock all the Doors, You Know We Can't Go Back, and the Girl With X-Ray Eyes?
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Post by jxing on Aug 8, 2017 10:04:29 GMT -5
I know Noel "owns" the rights as a song writer but does it work with demos and recording?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 10:10:13 GMT -5
Noel holding back tracks for later use means nothing... he did the same with Oasis tunes in the early days especially. Most notably, All Around The World.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 8, 2017 10:12:02 GMT -5
I know Noel "owns" the rights as a song writer but does it work with demos and recording? No, those are Noel's. The songwriter has complete rights. The only time he wouldn't, would be if he used label money to demo and record, and didn't pay them back. That is, the songs' rights are partly owned by him and the label. But someone as big as Noel, would have complete rights.
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Post by jxing on Aug 8, 2017 10:14:17 GMT -5
So the only thing that LG has rights to is the oasis name and the songs that he wrote?
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Post by spaneli on Aug 8, 2017 10:17:30 GMT -5
Noel holding back tracks for later use means nothing... he did the same with Oasis tunes in the early days especially. Most notably, All Around The World. This. The big problem with Liam's theory that Noel wanted to leave, so him having Oasis tracks on his solo albums ignores the fact that Noel always held back songs. The argument I always make is, how long was Noel planning this solo detour? I mean, he's been holding back on RM and STC since before DBTT. Did Noel hoard songs back in the early 2000's? To accept Liam's theory, you have to accept that Noel's basically had this mastermind plan since at least SOTSOG. Besides, you can go back to just about every band where the lead songwriter left, and that songwriter has used the songs they wrote with their past band.
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Post by ricardogce on Aug 8, 2017 10:18:37 GMT -5
If Oasis got back together, do we really expect Guigsy to be able to pull it out the bag again? Isnt he a plumber now? I fully expect Guigs to look like mid 70s Syd Barrett. He's just a LOT grayer nowadays (pic's from 2014 from what I can gather).
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Post by spaneli on Aug 8, 2017 10:19:13 GMT -5
So the only thing that LG has rights to is the oasis name and the songs that he wrote? Yes. Liam recently talked about in the GQ article how, Noel gets the majority of royalties because he's the songwriter. So he naturally has greater wealth than Liam, and Liam never had as much money as Noel so the divorces hit him harder.
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Post by mahsteve on Aug 8, 2017 10:25:53 GMT -5
Have to say that was a great interview. Honesty and humour
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Post by ricardogce on Aug 8, 2017 10:26:39 GMT -5
Why re-live the past all the time ? Having Oasis with bonehead and guigsy will simply not be the same, Liam need to get over it. It's over. Plus they fired McCarroll so if Liam wants the old line up back, it will be difficult You could say the same of anyone who's been a member of the band. So what do we do, Liam and Noel with a band of hired guns? Do they become the Beach Boys? Nah, it has to be some permutation of the actual members, and Liam prefers the boys he grew up with, the ones he was friends with before they were famous. He's not dictating terms, he's just answering a question.
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Post by draper on Aug 8, 2017 10:37:48 GMT -5
Noel holding back tracks for later use means nothing... he did the same with Oasis tunes in the early days especially. Most notably, All Around The World. This. The big problem with Liam's theory that Noel wanted to leave, so him having Oasis tracks on his solo albums ignores the fact that Noel always held back songs. The argument I always make is, how long was Noel planning this solo detour? I mean, he's been holding back on RM and STC since before DBTT. Did Noel hoard songs back in the early 2000's? To accept Liam's theory, you have to accept that Noel's basically had this mastermind plan since at least SOTSOG. Besides, you can go back to just about every band where the lead songwriter left, and that songwriter has used the songs they wrote with their past band. Actually I remember Noel winding up Liam through the press about his solo plans back in summer 2000. Noel had left the tour at that time. In the back of his head he'd probably played with the idea of a solo record for a long time. Not saying he jad some masterplan of holding back tracks though.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 8, 2017 10:48:41 GMT -5
This. The big problem with Liam's theory that Noel wanted to leave, so him having Oasis tracks on his solo albums ignores the fact that Noel always held back songs. The argument I always make is, how long was Noel planning this solo detour? I mean, he's been holding back on RM and STC since before DBTT. Did Noel hoard songs back in the early 2000's? To accept Liam's theory, you have to accept that Noel's basically had this mastermind plan since at least SOTSOG. Besides, you can go back to just about every band where the lead songwriter left, and that songwriter has used the songs they wrote with their past band. Actually I remember Noel winding up Liam through the press about his solo plans back in summer 2000. Noel had left the tour at that time. In the back of his head he'd probably played with the idea of a solo record for a long time. Not saying he jad some masterplan of holding back tracks though. I wish Noel actually released a little solo album in the winter of 2000. He needed it.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 8, 2017 10:49:45 GMT -5
Why re-live the past all the time ? Having Oasis with bonehead and guigsy will simply not be the same, Liam need to get over it. It's over. Plus they fired McCarroll so if Liam wants the old line up back, it will be difficult You could say the same of anyone who's been a member of the band. So what do we do, Liam and Noel with a band of hired guns? Do they become the Beach Boys? Nah, it has to be some permutation of the actual members, and Liam prefers the boys he grew up with, the ones he was friends with before they were famous. He's not dictating terms, he's just answering a question. Disagree. It's "just" a question, but everything points to Liam having some kind of a midlife crisis and wanting to relive the past. No post BHN songs in the live set, the old line up instead of gem & andy. And the ranting over and over again about Noel in interviews... it's getting old to be honest. Liam clearly wants to erase 2000 onwards from his life as of now. Hell, has he even spoken to Guigsy in the past 18 years ? Come on... He dissed a guy last year who introduced him to bonehead and claimed he wanted to reform the old Oasis ( story here), and now this... yeah, just a question. The only way Oasis could reform would be to make something new, not to try and relive the past. + Guigsy can't play bass and was nowhere to be heard back during gigs, so there is no need for him Oasis could reform, but with Gem and Andy. They never left. Some other did. And there is no way Noel would reform Oasis without Gem.
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