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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 21, 2017 21:40:23 GMT -5
I'm NOT talking about lacking Liam's voice or energy here. Rather I'm talking about Noel's rockers lacking je ne sais quoi.
I'm also comparing like for like, which is important to keep in mind.
Songs like Lock All The Doors, and You Know We Can't Go Back are as close to 90s Oasis - especially the Be Here Now era - we will ever get. But they lack "something." They are bland compared to their equivalents of The Fame, Step Out, Flashbax , etc
All those Oasis songs have presence, energy, attitude, and PASSION.
Noel is desperately missing all of that when it comes to his more upbeat songs.
Noel, where are ya? Let's be 'avin' ya!
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 22, 2017 3:16:50 GMT -5
He is 50 ffs and it's 2017, you can't expect to get from him something like Fade Away again (I'm talking about the way that song was recorded not about melody).
And CY is not masterpiece but it is easy listening album that flows very well and you can listen to it over and over.
The way that he recorded, You Know We Can't Go Back for example, fits much more with songs before and after that song than if you put Stay Young on its place.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 22, 2017 3:43:18 GMT -5
I don't like the way that people use Noels age as an excuse for why its not possible for him to make truly great records anymore. Bob Dylan was smashing it when he was Noels age, Oh Mercy and Time Out Of Mind are among my favourite of his albums. I think Noel is definitely in a good place with his writing at the moment but I agree that the passion is slightly lacking which has so far held him back from putting out a real CLASSIC album. I'd love Noel to really smash it out the park this time round and put out an album that could be considered a genuine classic rather than another good Noel Gallagher album. Let's hope David Holmes is the missing ingredient  |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 22, 2017 7:47:17 GMT -5
Because they're not Oasis songs. Those songs were written by Noel in his Oasis years, but performed by him solo now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 9:14:00 GMT -5
Criticising noel for not matching up to bob dylan is a bit harsh. I don't think many would stand up to that comparison.
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 22, 2017 10:07:43 GMT -5
I think it's to do with Noel not being very adventurous with his guitar playing and sticking to his formula for writing songs a bit too rigidly. Chasing Yesterday was a much better album and did have a few nice solos, mainly played by Strangeboy Stacey though. Hopefully Holmes encouraged Noel to cut loose a bit and show off some of the guitar solos and riffs from 90s Oasis and dirty up the sound a bit.
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 22, 2017 10:42:13 GMT -5
Maybe he's lacking the drugs.
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 22, 2017 11:05:44 GMT -5
Maybe he's lacking the drugs. Hadn't thought of that  |
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 22, 2017 12:39:02 GMT -5
I hope Noel is feeling inspired and can channel his current period of domestic bliss and turn it into gorgeous music.
I think we're going to get a lot of upbeat happy songs that reflect where he's at in his life. Family, kids, wife etc. He's happier than he's ever been at the moment it seems. Hopefully this will come out in the songs.
I don't think Noels peaked as a solo artist yet. We've had two good albums and a lot of great songs but I believe he's capable of more.
I've got really high hopes for album #3.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jul 22, 2017 12:51:52 GMT -5
I'm NOT talking about lacking Liam's voice or energy here. Rather I'm talking about Noel's rockers lacking je ne sais quoi. I'm also comparing like for like, which is important to keep in mind. Songs like Lock All The Doors, and You Know We Can't Go Back are as close to 90s Oasis - especially the Be Here Now era - we will ever get. But they lack "something." They are bland compared to their equivalents of The Fame, Step Out, Flashbax , etc All those Oasis songs have presence, energy, attitude, and PASSION. Noel is desperately missing all of that when it comes to his more upbeat songs. Noel, where are ya? Let's be 'avin' ya! How many times can you post the same thing in a different way? Noel is nearly 50 years old. What made Oasis great is that they captured a certain place, time, and sound. It is unreasonable to expect that from him when even the greats were incapable of sustaining that level of material. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 22, 2017 21:59:07 GMT -5
I'm NOT talking about lacking Liam's voice or energy here. Rather I'm talking about Noel's rockers lacking je ne sais quoi. I'm also comparing like for like, which is important to keep in mind. Songs like Lock All The Doors, and You Know We Can't Go Back are as close to 90s Oasis - especially the Be Here Now era - we will ever get. But they lack "something." They are bland compared to their equivalents of The Fame, Step Out, Flashbax , etc All those Oasis songs have presence, energy, attitude, and PASSION. Noel is desperately missing all of that when it comes to his more upbeat songs. Noel, where are ya? Let's be 'avin' ya! How many times can you post the same thing in a different way? Noel is nearly 50 years old. What made Oasis great is that they captured a certain place, time, and sound. It is unreasonable to expect that from him when even the greats were incapable of sustaining that level of material. Because I'm mad fer it, Sonny Jim. |
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Post by discworld on Jul 23, 2017 0:45:24 GMT -5
presence, energy, attitude, and PASSION. Noel's songs have all of that, just of a different kind. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 11:39:44 GMT -5
I think Chasing Yesterday is a huge improvement in terms of energy, so thank fuck Sardy's gone, but something changed the day Noel started trying to make his songs sound like someone else ("it's The La's doing The Kinks" etc). With earlier Oasis he had his own sound.
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Post by noliamno on Aug 5, 2017 8:49:05 GMT -5
You guys do realize that the same conversation has taken place since after Be Here Now?
What I read on here is:
1. Noel's not adventurous.
2. He's not making the most of his guitar playing.
3. He's trying to sound like someone else.
4. etc.....
If the Noel we have is the Noel we're going to get, will you still be fans?
I will. His first two albums were good, no matter what anyone says. They weren't Oasis at the top of their game good, but they were good.
None of the Beatles individually ever reached the band's level as solo artists. I don't think we'll ever see it from Noel or Liam either.
Not that my opinion matters, but enjoy the ride for what it is, not for what you hope it could be.
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Post by sledgehammer87 on Aug 17, 2017 18:41:28 GMT -5
His music is good, but very tame and overall boring. I realised this after the novelty of 'Noel going Solo' has vanished entirely...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 18:54:21 GMT -5
I like his albums, but if you saw/listened to one of his gigs you saw them all.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 17, 2017 19:29:19 GMT -5
Also missing that Los Campesinos magic!
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 18, 2017 1:53:56 GMT -5
I like his albums, but if you saw/listened to one of his gigs you saw them all. I listened to Chasing Yesterday in its entirety including the bonus tracks for the first time in a while yesterday and it's actually bloody brilliant. It's a shame that the tour spoilt that era for me. The long break half way through for him to come back and only add Listen Up to the setlist didn't help things. And then the 'special' final Brixton show that again was EXACTLY the same was the final nail in the coffin for that era. It's a shame because I'd give the album itself an 8.5/10. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 20, 2017 3:18:53 GMT -5
I like his albums, but if you saw/listened to one of his gigs you saw them all. I listened to Chasing Yesterday in its entirety including the bonus tracks for the first time in a while yesterday and it's actually bloody brilliant. It's a shame that the tour spoilt that era for me. The long break half way through for him to come back and only add Listen Up to the setlist didn't help things. And then the 'special' final Brixton show that again was EXACTLY the same was the final nail in the coffin for that era. It's a shame because I'd give the album itself an 8.5/10. Agree totally. I LOVE Noel's HFB albums - I honestly think I like them as much as anything he's done that isn't DM or WTSMG. Let alone the bonus tracks and b-sides (Rope, Genius..). Chasing Yesterday is just fantastic. But I'm not bothered about seeing the tour again; just my personal opinion that it's a bit sanitised. I don't mind at all his amended "non Liam" versions of Oasis songs though. I cried at the Albert Hall to Champagne Supernova! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 20, 2017 3:32:41 GMT -5
I find it funny, because I've seen Noel twice, in 2015 and 2016, and the second time I saw him, 8 songs were changed for something else/added to the setlist.
So I don't have that experience.
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Post by Gas Panic on Aug 20, 2017 15:50:41 GMT -5
I listened to Chasing Yesterday in its entirety including the bonus tracks for the first time in a while yesterday and it's actually bloody brilliant. It's a shame that the tour spoilt that era for me. The long break half way through for him to come back and only add Listen Up to the setlist didn't help things. And then the 'special' final Brixton show that again was EXACTLY the same was the final nail in the coffin for that era. It's a shame because I'd give the album itself an 8.5/10. Agree totally. I LOVE Noel's HFB albums - I honestly think I like them as much as anything he's done that isn't DM or WTSMG. Let alone the bonus tracks and b-sides (Rope, Genius..). Chasing Yesterday is just fantastic. But I'm not bothered about seeing the tour again; just my personal opinion that it's a bit sanitised. I don't mind at all his amended "non Liam" versions of Oasis songs though. I cried at the Albert Hall to Champagne Supernova! That new version of Champagne Supernova was without a doubt the highlight of the tour and probably justified the ticket price of a gig on its own. I actually like it when Noel plays around with the old oasis songs to be honest, it gives us fans something new to enjoy. I really hope we get some more 'new' oasis classics on the next tour. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 20, 2017 18:38:04 GMT -5
Agree totally. I LOVE Noel's HFB albums - I honestly think I like them as much as anything he's done that isn't DM or WTSMG. Let alone the bonus tracks and b-sides (Rope, Genius..). Chasing Yesterday is just fantastic. But I'm not bothered about seeing the tour again; just my personal opinion that it's a bit sanitised. I don't mind at all his amended "non Liam" versions of Oasis songs though. I cried at the Albert Hall to Champagne Supernova! That new version of Champagne Supernova was without a doubt the highlight of the tour and probably justified the ticket price of a gig on its own. I actually like it when Noel plays around with the old oasis songs to be honest, it gives us fans something new to enjoy. I really hope we get some more 'new' oasis classics on the next tour. His acoustic version of Supersonic is fucking amazing.... Whenever I listen to it I think: "As it begins, eh I'm not sure if I'm going to like this...hold on it's twisting a bit....omfg eargasm as we head into the chorus..." |
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Post by liammuc on Aug 27, 2017 2:29:28 GMT -5
Maybe he's lacking the drugs. He might be sober today but he doesn't look healthy to me nowadays. Maybe its the tour stress but he looks way to skinny. And music wise - maybe he should stop that boring "Hollywood superstar lifestyle" with his posh friends and all that and move back to England. Go to a pub with Gem, get really pissed and write some magic tunes again. And pleasssssse play smaller venues! |
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