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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 17:31:32 GMT -5
FOTF is absolutely overrated beyond belief. I'd give it a MAXIMUM of 5/10. The pathetic video that was served up with it matches the tune. BORING. a guy thats not afraid to state his opinions. no doubt someone will be along in minute to say your wrong with hint of misguided superiority in their words.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 17:32:52 GMT -5
REEEEEEEEEE ROLO PLEASE BEAT THIS GUY UP FOR ME
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Post by Rolo on Jan 24, 2017 17:39:44 GMT -5
FOTF is absolutely overrated beyond belief. I'd give it a MAXIMUM of 5/10. The pathetic video that was served up with it matches the tune. BORING.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 24, 2017 18:26:36 GMT -5
FOTF is absolutely overrated beyond belief. I'd give it a MAXIMUM of 5/10. The pathetic video that was served up with it matches the tune. BORING. a guy thats not afraid to state his opinions. no doubt someone will be along in minute to say your wrong with hint of misguided superiority in their words. Nah he's not online at the moment.
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Post by themightyeye on Jan 24, 2017 18:30:02 GMT -5
I agree...I think it's 5/10 at best. The production/horns.... Absolutely horrific.
I wouldn't play a single beady eye song. Maybe "in a bubble".
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Post by godgimmesoul on Jan 24, 2017 18:41:51 GMT -5
The entire Beady Eye debacle really needs to be wiped clean from his slate in my opinion. There is absolutely no fondness whatsoever looking back, and hardly anything positive from the era in all reality. This is his rebirth. It's got to be. And I hope to fuck that neither Andy Bell or Gem reappear either. Brand new sound please.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 24, 2017 18:49:19 GMT -5
I agree...I think it's 5/10 at best. The production/horns.... Absolutely horrific. I wouldn't play a single beady eye song. Maybe "in a bubble". Sorry, what?
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 24, 2017 19:33:51 GMT -5
What I like about what Bastard said today is that he didn't like some new songs. It means that he was not just too impressed because he was with Liam in the same room or starstrucked and that he was objectively reporting. And that means that when he said that some songs are very good and that new single is great, we can probably trust him.
If he's not trolling us all the time hahahahahaa.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 25, 2017 3:18:50 GMT -5
What I like about what Bastard said today is that he didn't like some new songs. It means that he was not just too impressed because he was with Liam in the same room or starstrucked and that he was objectively reporting. And that means that when he said that some songs are very good and that new single is great, we can probably trust him. If he's not trolling us all the time hahahahahaa. Doesn't look like trolling to me, i trust the guy. As for the quality of Liam's songs, i doubt he has 10 great tracks. We'll be lucky if there's 6 or 7 quality songs and 3 fillers.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Jan 25, 2017 3:50:02 GMT -5
What I like about what Bastard said today is that he didn't like some new songs. It means that he was not just too impressed because he was with Liam in the same room or starstrucked and that he was objectively reporting. And that means that when he said that some songs are very good and that new single is great, we can probably trust him. If he's not trolling us all the time hahahahahaa. Doesn't look like trolling to me, i trust the guy. As for the quality of Liam's songs, i doubt he has 10 great tracks. We'll be lucky if there's 6 or 7 quality songs and 3 fillers. 6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 25, 2017 3:53:18 GMT -5
Doesn't look like trolling to me, i trust the guy. As for the quality of Liam's songs, i doubt he has 10 great tracks. We'll be lucky if there's 6 or 7 quality songs and 3 fillers. 6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked. Maybe we should wait until we hear it.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Jan 25, 2017 4:16:24 GMT -5
6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked. Maybe we should wait until we hear it. Partially true. But let's be honest he was hardly holding back any bangin tunes for a period of time to go solo with. He even talked down the songs somewhat himself. So I think it's safe enough to say it'll be an average serving. 6.5/10
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Post by andymorris on Jan 25, 2017 4:58:03 GMT -5
6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked. Maybe we should wait until we hear it. Absolutely. I mean Liam has been writing for what like 20 years now, he contributed to 3/4 songs per cycles, maybe he's got some great songs that were rejected only because they didn't fit DOYS, DGSS or BE. If he's confident to give it a go solo, there's probably some good tunes.
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Post by shoreline on Jan 25, 2017 6:10:19 GMT -5
Maybe we should wait until we hear it. Absolutely. I mean Liam has been writing for what like 20 years now, he contributed to 3/4 songs per cycles, maybe he's got some great songs that were rejected only because they didn't fit DOYS, DGSS or BE. If he's confident to give it a go solo, there's probably some good tunes. I may be mistaken, but I think that bastardnumber1 said some time ago that there would be only new songs on the album? This would be a good idea anyway. They tried the "rejected oasis-songs"-approach with Beady Eye, and it didn't work. If it's a rejected Beady Eye-song I don't think that it's a better option. Liam needs to come up with something new, not revolutionizing, but something brand new that we haven't heard from a Liam Gallagher or a Gallagher for that sake before. A different style of music, familiar but still fresh. He also needs to up his game quality-wise, and from what people who have heard songs from it so far, he has. Writing a album of just new songs makes for a more coherent album as well, since the songs are all written within the same period of time, expressing the emotions, experiences and musical preferences the songwriter has at that time. I think that's better than having a tapestry of different songs that don't fit naturally together. This record should clearly sound like the 2017-version of Liam Gallagher.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 25, 2017 7:02:08 GMT -5
The thing is you can rewrite and re work a 10 year old song into something bew too. So I have no problems if he reworks rejected oasis or beady eye tunes. If they are reworked in a good way.
I am really astonished how negative and I would dare to say rude some people treat an upcoming record that no one has heard. Aure it can be a stinker but there is no need to say that you need to get your head checked if you want to believe something enjoyable is coming our way.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 25, 2017 7:03:44 GMT -5
Doesn't look like trolling to me, i trust the guy. As for the quality of Liam's songs, i doubt he has 10 great tracks. We'll be lucky if there's 6 or 7 quality songs and 3 fillers. 6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked. I enjoyed Beady Eye too. Not everything but alot. Do I need to get my head checked? Nope dont think so. My musical taste is pretty wide so I try to stay open minded and not judge them as spon as it is not on the level of first 3 oasis records. Personally I enjoy BE more than be here now.
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Post by Rolo on Jan 25, 2017 7:08:51 GMT -5
Maybe we should wait until we hear it. Partially true. But let's be honest he was hardly holding back any bangin tunes for a period of time to go solo with. He even talked down the songs somewhat himself. So I think it's safe enough to say it'll be an average serving. 6.5/10 You know an awful lot about a record that no one has even heard yet.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 25, 2017 7:10:59 GMT -5
Maybe we should wait until we hear it. Partially true. But let's be honest he was hardly holding back any bangin tunes for a period of time to go solo with. He even talked down the songs somewhat himself. So I think it's safe enough to say it'll be an average serving. 6.5/10 Remember how alot people called Noel smart and intelligent and strategic for talking down his upcoming solo debut?
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Post by godgimmesoul on Jan 25, 2017 7:35:02 GMT -5
Partially true. But let's be honest he was hardly holding back any bangin tunes for a period of time to go solo with. He even talked down the songs somewhat himself. So I think it's safe enough to say it'll be an average serving. 6.5/10 You know an awful lot about a record that no one has even heard yet.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Jan 25, 2017 7:36:07 GMT -5
6 or 7 quality tracks ?? You have got to be kidding. There'll be 1 brilliant tune. 2-3 decent tunes. And the rest will be cannon fodder / complete dross. Anybody who thinks any different needs their head checked. I enjoyed Beady Eye too. Not everything but alot. Do I need to get my head checked? Nope dont think so. My musical taste is pretty wide so I try to stay open minded and not judge them as spon as it is not on the level of first 3 oasis records. Personally I enjoy BE more than be here now.
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Post by idleroses on Jan 25, 2017 7:54:03 GMT -5
If it's true that Liam has being co-writing with talented songwriters he could really shock us as fans and the music critics. I just have a feeling that Liam and the team he has behind him can put together something good.
I'm not the biggest fan of Beady Eye but I'd happily welcome FLW or FOTF in his setlist.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 25, 2017 8:22:51 GMT -5
Well some people have a different opinion than the majority. In my ears bar a few songs be here now is a overblown, too long record with to many songs sounding too similar. Or not very surprising like it was the thing everybody expected and that made it boring as a full album for me.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 25, 2017 10:07:01 GMT -5
Absolutely. I mean Liam has been writing for what like 20 years now, he contributed to 3/4 songs per cycles, maybe he's got some great songs that were rejected only because they didn't fit DOYS, DGSS or BE. If he's confident to give it a go solo, there's probably some good tunes. I may be mistaken, but I think that bastardnumber1 said some time ago that there would be only new songs on the album? This would be a good idea anyway. They tried the "rejected oasis-songs"-approach with Beady Eye, and it didn't work. If it's a rejected Beady Eye-song I don't think that it's a better option. Liam needs to come up with something new, not revolutionizing, but something brand new that we haven't heard from a Liam Gallagher or a Gallagher for that sake before. A different style of music, familiar but still fresh. He also needs to up his game quality-wise, and from what people who have heard songs from it so far, he has. Writing a album of just new songs makes for a more coherent album as well, since the songs are all written within the same period of time, expressing the emotions, experiences and musical preferences the songwriter has at that time. I think that's better than having a tapestry of different songs that don't fit naturally together. This record should clearly sound like the 2017-version of Liam Gallagher. If a song is good, it's good. Doesn't matter if it was written last june or in june 99. To me, Beady Eye failed because of the sound approach, not because of the songs, although some were really stinky. But the strong ones were strong enough and not as shitty as people try to make them be. Had they waited a few more years and made one record with DGSS + BE songs and you got a really, really good record. In the end, it's the sound and production that will make the melody sound fresh and exciting.
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Post by matt on Jan 25, 2017 12:04:34 GMT -5
If it's true that Liam has being co-writing with talented songwriters he could really shock us as fans and the music critics. I just have a feeling that Liam and the team he has behind him can put together something good. I'm not the biggest fan of Beady Eye but I'd happily welcome FLW or FOTF in his setlist. We also need to remember that Andy Bell and Gem Archer are not 'professional songwriters'. Gem's Heavy Stereo..... yeah best give that a miss. And while Andy Bell's songs in Ride were great, they were more impressionistic and subversive and I don't think we're expecting that from a Liam solo album. Aside from a couple of tracks, Andy and Gem were fairly poor at structuring a traditional song, they weren't any better than Liam in my opinion. Something a bit more conventional from Liam would be good but hiring professional songwriters will hopefully flesh them out that bit more. Only problem is with Richard Ashcroft who pretty much let slip he was working with Liam in May - that's not the standard I want considering his latest solo album.
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Post by Jgrp on Jan 25, 2017 14:50:00 GMT -5
Surprised people are giving FOTF 5/10. Each to their own, I think it's really decent though. Wouldn't mind for that and FLW in the set, but at the same time I wouldn't care if BE songs didn't make it at all
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