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Post by steve020409 on Dec 19, 2016 1:44:10 GMT -5
Who's a better artist/songwriter? Johnny Marr would have won if the question was "who's the better guitarist".
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 19, 2016 4:58:53 GMT -5
Are you shitting me?
Weller. All day long. He's not even 60 yet and he's released over 20 albums, a large number of which are really good. I think he's one of the most underrated songwriters around today.
Never mind Marr, Paul Weller's got the edge on our Noel!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 5:35:18 GMT -5
Weller! I never really listened to Johnny Marr solo (any recommendations mimmihopps ?), but I love Wild Wood and Stanley Road. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 19, 2016 6:17:45 GMT -5
Weller! I never really listened to Johnny Marr solo (any recommendations mimmihopps ?), but I love Wild Wood and Stanley Road. Johnny's last and only 2 solo albums (unless we count that Healers record which has strangely been forgotten completely. Wish that could happen with Heathen Chemistry but whatever.....  )   |
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 19, 2016 7:36:16 GMT -5
Weller! I never really listened to Johnny Marr solo (any recommendations mimmihopps ?), but I love Wild Wood and Stanley Road. , "Boomslang" was a great album. I refuse to take a part of this poll as I hate to make "vs" between these 2 gentlemen. Johnny is my forever guitar hero who I respect, adore and love so much and Weller is my hero and the former of one of my 3 life time bands. It's like someone asks me "which band do you prefer, The Smiths or The Jam?". and I hate all those "... vs ...". |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 4, 2017 15:53:58 GMT -5
Weller! I never really listened to Johnny Marr solo (any recommendations mimmihopps ?), but I love Wild Wood and Stanley Road. You heard any Jam? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 4, 2017 16:10:32 GMT -5
Weller could be the greatest British songwriter ever so yeah, Weller.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 16:32:13 GMT -5
Weller! I never really listened to Johnny Marr solo (any recommendations mimmihopps ?), but I love Wild Wood and Stanley Road. You heard any Jam? Yeah they did a great cover of Noel's To Be Someone. But I prefer Noel's original. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 4, 2017 16:53:15 GMT -5
Yeah they did a great cover of Noel's To Be Someone. But I prefer Noel's original. Its the other way around. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 18:17:16 GMT -5
Yeah they did a great cover of Noel's To Be Someone. But I prefer Noel's original. Its the other way around. Really? I hope everybody know I was sarcastic...  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 14, 2017 12:43:14 GMT -5
"As a songwriter, Paul Weller is amazing. As a guitarist and pianist he is on the verge of the virtuoso. The things he plays are beyond me. He is a truly brilliant musician. He can do anything: soul, jazz, blues, rock... He's got it." -Noel Gallagher |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2017 7:06:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 8:21:37 GMT -5
Both are underrated in the grand scheme of the music industry. Probably overrated on here though.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2017 9:54:32 GMT -5
Both are underrated in the grand scheme of the music industry. Probably overrated on here though. Not Weller. He lost his way in the mid to late 80s, but apart from that, he's been consistently pumping out great records for near on 40 years now. To me, that he was able to muscle his way back into the British charts for his third spell of commercial success, in the mid 90s (as we well know, an incredibly fruitful time for guitar music in Britain), despite having a good 10 years on everyone else around at that time, I think goes some way to showing just how irrepressible the man's talent for songwriting is. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 18, 2017 12:56:33 GMT -5
Both are underrated in the grand scheme of the music industry. Probably overrated on here though. Not Weller. He lost his way in the mid to late 80s, but apart from that, he's been consistently pumping out great records for near on 40 years now. To me, that he was able to muscle his way back into the British charts for his third spell of commercial success, in the mid 90s (as we well know, an incredibly fruitful time for guitar music in Britain), despite having a good 10 years on everyone else around at that time, I think goes some way to showing just how irrepressible the man's talent for songwriting is. Absolutely all of this. I'm not a big fan of him personally from the things I read strangely but his talent is undeniable, to still be as good as he is, to still keep pushing himself to try new things. There is no one else like him from our shores. |
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Post by sgtpeppr on Jan 18, 2017 17:14:06 GMT -5
weller. no contest.
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Post by matt on Jan 19, 2017 22:47:38 GMT -5
On an artistic level, Weller obviously but personally, you can't have Marr without Morrissey and together they trump Weller.
On a personal level though, I have a friend from Manchester who said Marr talked to their college class and was a gentleman personified who bought them a coffee and had a long chat. Another mate working within the industry said he came into contact with Weller however and he was the biggest diva imaginable. Very arrogant and aloof apparently.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 20, 2017 9:08:48 GMT -5
On an artistic level, Weller obviously but personally, you can't have Marr without Morrissey and together they trump Weller. On a personal level though, I have a friend from Manchester who said Marr talked to their college class and was a gentleman personified who bought them a coffee and had a long chat. Another mate working within the industry said he came into contact with Weller however and he was the biggest diva imaginable. Very arrogant and aloof apparently. So that's why him and Noel get on so well... I don't know why a personal level should even come into it, but as you mentioned Morrissey...now there's a fellow with an interesting personality... Certainly, I don't think Bowie was keen, when he took him on tour in the 90s. Again, not that it matters, but I have also heard tales of Weller being very welcoming and encouraging to young acts trying to break through. (Maybe your man just met him on a bad day? Or when he was still drinking?) |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 20, 2017 9:10:24 GMT -5
...which leads me onto this great new tune Paul sings on, from a band called Stone Foundation, whose new record 'Street Rituals' Weller has produced:
Weller sings on two others. He's also co-written a couple as well.
"These are dark, dark times, so I was glad to hear a positive voice and vibrations in the words, and a joy in the music...what a pleasure and a privilege it was to work with these fellas. It’s their best songwriting to date, and I just hope people get to hear it because there are some great tunes and I like the message on the record. I like the social comment, because you have so little of that these days.” - Paul Weller
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Post by matt on Jan 20, 2017 11:05:16 GMT -5
On an artistic level, Weller obviously but personally, you can't have Marr without Morrissey and together they trump Weller. On a personal level though, I have a friend from Manchester who said Marr talked to their college class and was a gentleman personified who bought them a coffee and had a long chat. Another mate working within the industry said he came into contact with Weller however and he was the biggest diva imaginable. Very arrogant and aloof apparently. So that's why him and Noel get on so well... I don't know why a personal level should even come into it, but as you mentioned Morrissey...now there's a fellow with an interesting personality... Certainly, I don't think Bowie was keen, when he took him on tour in the 90s. Again, not that it matters, but I have also heard tales of Weller being very welcoming and encouraging to young acts trying to break through. (Maybe your man just met him on a bad day? Or when he was still drinking?) Morrissey is an odd bloke I agree whose cranky world views I do laugh at and I'm surprised that his hardcore fans would think differently of him (him flicking through his CDs at an HMV is a very Morrissey type thing). He's a bit of a comedy figure to me who at the same time I find fascinating, but his obvious flaws - like most singers - means its hard to idolise him. And I don't hold it against Weller to be fair, I don't aspire to meet any of my favourite singers and I judge them solely on their music. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 20, 2017 12:33:19 GMT -5
I acciddentally met both of them, Johnny once and Weller twice and all I can tell is, that they were both gentlemen. I love, adore and respect both of them and I don't need to add anything to that.
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Post by globe on Jan 21, 2017 8:46:54 GMT -5
Weller is the better song writer, but he can't touch Johnny when it comes to the guitar. That's no disrespect to Weller saying that though, because nobody can.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jan 21, 2017 14:15:54 GMT -5
Weller is the better song writer, but he can't touch Johnny when it comes to the guitar. That's no disrespect to Weller saying that though, because nobody can. I was shocked when I found out how young Johnny Marr was during his Smiths years - he wrote absolutely classic riffs at age 20! It's hard to judge Marr without Morrissey (it doesn't help that Marr didn't start a solo career for another 20+ years after the split), but I'm not sure if there's anybody who can play the guitar like him. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2017 4:30:59 GMT -5
Weller is the better song writer, but he can't touch Johnny when it comes to the guitar. That's no disrespect to Weller saying that though, because nobody can. Agreed. Also shows just how good Marr is as I think Weller himself is an excellent guitarist. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 17:08:58 GMT -5
Weller could be the greatest British songwriter ever so yeah, Weller. no doubt about it, weller is one of the greats, but that is quite a statement you made there. |
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