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Post by The Escapist on Dec 10, 2016 11:37:18 GMT -5
As in they drop an album and it's like "Oh shit...they're back."
For me, it's between Coldplay and Eminem - but as much as I'd love to see Shady be back, back again (and tell a friend), I have to go Coldplay. If they made another Viva / A Rush level album, I'd be so happy. Shame it isn't going to happen, but oh well...
I've only included active artists that once released at least arguably great stuff but now seem lacklustre. The XX were a dodgy choice - but Coexist was meh and I don't like On Hold either so yeah...they're there. Didn't include Liam because he'd obviously win (and the first two albums are really more down to Noel...shh...).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 11:48:46 GMT -5
Belle & Sebastian The Strokes Ride
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 12:07:41 GMT -5
Although I also think U2 would do good going back to their glory days, I think Coldplay deserves this title better. Who would think that those alternrock + a lot of other stuff guys that created amazing songs would turn into a commercial pop hits band
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 10, 2016 12:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 10, 2016 12:56:28 GMT -5
Are The Cure still releasing music? I had no idea... Guess that's a pretty good argument for your answer, then...
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 10, 2016 13:20:09 GMT -5
Are The Cure still releasing music? I had no idea... Guess that's a pretty good argument for your answer, then... Their last album came out in 2008. I know Robert Smith once said that The Cure would never consciously make a last album; that they would just carry on going until, after such a long time had elapsed since they last did anything, people would just know they were finished. Maybe it's reached that point now... Having said that, they have played a couple of new songs at their gigs this year, so Robert might not have given up just yet...
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 10, 2016 14:11:53 GMT -5
I just saw The Cure for the first time last month and although they didn't release any new materials for years, it doesn't mean that they're not on "form".
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 10, 2016 14:37:05 GMT -5
I just saw The Cure for the first time last month and although they didn't release any new materials for years, it doesn't mean that they're not on "form". In his OP, TheEscapist elaborates on the thread's title with: "as in they drop an album and it's like "Oh shit...they're back."" I'm not saying The Cure are past it, but it's a fact they've not done an album in a quite a few years - and even then, what they were doing then was not exactly their best stuff. So that's what I mean by putting The Cure forward for this.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Dec 10, 2016 15:01:38 GMT -5
Oh this is easy. The Pixies.
Now don't get me wrong, I really do like the current material Black Francis is writing (in fact I think it's the strongest he's written in years & years) however the stuff he wrote during the Pixies initial spell (1986-1993) is simply the best collection of songs I've ever heard. Unfortunately he's now more than a league below what he was capable of producing back in the day, but come on... he's released like 400 songs since that spell, what did you expect? He's dropped approximately an album a year since the split. Give the guy a break. I think it's great that he just does things his way, whether they succeed or fail. But yeah, that guy firing on all cylinders... The best.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 15:07:15 GMT -5
think coldplay goes without saying, never going to happen though, what they are doing is a conscious decision rather than their material becoming stale and lackluster over time
richard ashcroft hasnt really changed all that much and thats part of his problem, theres not been a general evolution to keep his music fresh as opposed to him being like coldplay and evolving into something tacky, his new album is good but its not anything all that different to everything hes done before, especially considering how long he took to do it, its abit disappointing, I like to see more progression, simply doing the same thing over and over gets boring and makes me just bundle it with everything else rather than thinking "yea this is really good, I will remember this"
coldplay are capable of releasing a solid album like they used to but its not what they want, they want people dancing around and singing about amazing days.
you have to change to stay relevant but you have to change in the right way, you could argue coldplay has changed in the right way as they are still very popular, its just a shame their music has become a lot less memorable by doing so, I personally feel like coldplay dont want to come down off the hill so are doing anything to stay up there rather than just accepting they arnt going to be the top thing in town forever.
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Post by morning_rain on Dec 10, 2016 15:19:51 GMT -5
I saw The Cure in 2009 (even met and talked to Robert Smith) and they were awesome. Also I really enjoyed the last album they released. I think they just need to make a Bowie and spend +10 years away from the stage/studio and then release a huge album, I think they still have potential to release really strong material.
I voted for Aschcroft, he really needs to get his shit together and either reform The Verve or make real music again, his last album was dull and boring, not to speak about his image.
Belle and Sebastian released a couple of bad albums, is like they're trying to sound different or something and it's not working out. Same with The Decemberists.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 17:30:48 GMT -5
I saw The Cure in 2009 (even met and talked to Robert Smith) and they were awesome. Also I really enjoyed the last album they released. I think they just need to make a Bowie and spend +10 years away from the stage/studio and then release a huge album, I think they still have potential to release really strong material. I voted for Aschcroft, he really needs to get his shit together and either reform The Verve or make real music again, his last album was dull and boring, not to speak about his image. Belle and Sebastian released a couple of bad albums, is like they're trying to sound different or something and it's not working out. Same with The Decemberists. Totally agree about B&S. They have lost the plot since Dear Catastrophe Waitress, imo. It's a shame since they released two of the best albums of the 90's with "If You're Feeling Sinister" and "The Boy With The Arab Strap" (Tigermilk is great too but not as good).
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Post by glider on Dec 10, 2016 19:46:29 GMT -5
How Richard Ashcroft can return to form: give Nick McCabe and Simon Jones a call.
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Post by World71R on Dec 11, 2016 1:53:21 GMT -5
Coldplay and U2.
I'd love to have Coldplay get back into their early form alongside U2 in their late-80s and '90s form. That'd be beyond amazing, and it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. Both bands still put on great shows and can write good songs when they're not trying to pander (Ex: Up&Up, Birds, and the back half of U2's SOI).
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Dec 11, 2016 2:54:14 GMT -5
Tenacious D.
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Post by shoreline on Dec 11, 2016 5:09:15 GMT -5
Ellie Goulding actually. I really enjoyed her first album, and it was the first time I found myself listening to something else than the normal pop/rock thing. I liked the "folk-poptronika" thing she had going on, how she clearly wrote folk-pop tracks on her own on the guitar/piano, and then got the songs dressed in elektronika beats by different producers. That blend/mix was really cool. She had a unique style, was a good songwriter, good vocalist etc. I tried listening to her second album but was really disappointed, and her more recent singles have also been uninteresting for me. I guess that style of music is popular and get played a lot on the radio and streamed a lot, but it really feels like it could've been a totally different person doing it without it sounding different at all. She still has a great voice, but most of the music is so... Unpersonal. Seems more like a product of the industry rather than the artist herself.
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Post by Thomas on Dec 11, 2016 8:32:52 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 11, 2016 8:56:14 GMT -5
OPs, people, they're there for reading!...
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Post by Thomas on Dec 11, 2016 9:36:22 GMT -5
Also Liam Gallagher
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Dec 11, 2016 12:43:42 GMT -5
Eminem.
Although he usually has 3-4 good songs on an album he still slips in the references to his Mother, Daughter, Father etc and its worn thin. His music has always been topical and paints a picture of where his life is which is why the last one seemed a bit confused
Slim Shady LP: Youth, Wanting Fame Marshall Mathers LP: New found fame Eminem Show: Life under constant scrutiny Encore: Total mess due to drug lifestyle Relapse: trying to overcome drug lifestyle, mother stuff Recovery: life after drug life style, mother stuff MM LP2: mother stuff, father stuff, ermmmm....
Next Album: ?
An album with no mention to previous subjects and about being over 40 in a young mans game would be interesting.
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 11, 2016 13:14:41 GMT -5
Eminem. Although he usually has 3-4 good songs on an album he still slips in the references to his Mother, Daughter, Father etc and its worn thin. His music has always been topical and paints a picture of where his life is which is why the last one seemed a bit confused Slim Shady LP: Youth, Wanting Fame Marshall Mathers LP: New found fame Eminem Show: Life under constant scrutiny Encore: Total mess due to drug lifestyle Relapse: trying to overcome drug lifestyle, mother stuff Recovery: life after drug life style, mother stuff MM LP2: mother stuff, father stuff, ermmmm.... Next Album: ? An album with no mention to previous subjects and about being over 40 in a young mans game would be interesting. His beats are so bland these days, I think he needs to go back to Dre's g-funk style and improvise over that - his technical ability is still stunning enough to do so.
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 11, 2016 13:37:51 GMT -5
Shit, forgot Paul McCartney...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 15:02:23 GMT -5
I voted for Stone Roses because I've never really listened to Coldplay.
Other band is The Strokes. They're like Oasis in 00s, good singles but half of the album is garbage. New EP is decent, though.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Dec 11, 2016 15:28:06 GMT -5
I'd add Tool to my list, I'll be dead before new Tool came out.
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Post by matt on Dec 18, 2016 12:14:14 GMT -5
Coldplay because they are always on a level similar to that of the producer they hire - if they hired an exciting producer, then I'd have high expectations. I think the talent is there but they don't seem interested in critical appraisal at this stage, instead appealing to the lowest common denominator.
U2 just try to be everything these days and as a result don't hold anything of substance but I've got plenty of material from 1980-2000 which keeps me busy anyhow, so I'm not really fussed what they're up to these days.
Ashcrofts solo career is just completely worthless and dull in the extremity in my opinion, but if The Verve were there (or were still together!) then they'd certainly be tying with Coldplay for top spot.
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