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Post by cloudburster on Aug 27, 2016 8:35:35 GMT -5
Lets look at the songs he wrote for Beady Eye. Say he hadn't done anything in 2011 and just released a solo album in 2013 with Dave Sitek, we would've had a collection of the below songs;
- Wigwam - The Morning Son - Evil Eye - Off at the Next Exit - Start Anew - Shine A Light - Soul Love - The World's Not Set In Stone
Throw in a couple of weaker tracks which is to be expected - Beatles & Stones - For Anyone - Man of Misery
And that's a decent album. If Sitek had been at the helm for Wigwam and Morning Son that would've been interested. Anyway the point is Liam is obviously capable of not letting himself down with the right person behind the desk and maybe some help in the songwriting department (lyrics, structure, etc).
Another positive is that the majority of the stronger songs were from the BE era, so that indicates his writing is improving as well
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Post by mossy on Aug 27, 2016 9:00:28 GMT -5
Call me a grammar nazi, but that "morning sun has rose" line makes me cringe so much I have to skip it every time.
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Post by matt on Aug 27, 2016 10:02:49 GMT -5
That album would do no better than a Beady Eye album.
Quite simply, his solo career has to be a bit different, and better.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 27, 2016 10:25:02 GMT -5
I don't just want something decent from Liam. I want something good. It's been 19 years since his last moment of absolute triumph - it's high time he had another.
That's why I want him collaborating with as many people as possible. I'm talking multiple producers and songs co-written (and maybe even duetted) with a variety of proven songwriters.
As idealistic and just plain bonkers as all that may sound, that is what it'll take for me to get truly excited about a Liam solo release, I'm afraid to say.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 27, 2016 13:22:33 GMT -5
I don't just want something decent from Liam. I want something good. It's been 19 years since his last moment of absolute triumph - it's high time he had another. That's why I want him collaborating with as many people as possible. I'm talking multiple producers and songs co-written (and maybe even duetted) with a variety of proven songwriters. As idealistic and just plain bonkers as all that may sound, that is what it'll take for me to get truly excited about a Liam solo release, I'm afraid to say. I've heard Rihanna knows quite a few songwriters and producers *this is a joke as she often has multiple songwriters featuring on 1 song*
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 27, 2016 14:14:58 GMT -5
Lets look at the songs he wrote for Beady Eye. Say he hadn't done anything in 2011 and just released a solo album in 2013 with Dave Sitek, we would've had a collection of the below songs; - Wigwam - The Morning Son - Evil Eye - Off at the Next Exit - Start Anew - Shine A Light - Soul Love - The World's Not Set In Stone Throw in a couple of weaker tracks which is to be expected - Beatles & Stones - For Anyone - Man of Misery And that's a decent album. If Sitek had been at the helm for Wigwam and Morning Son that would've been interested. Anyway the point is Liam is obviously capable of not letting himself down with the right person behind the desk and maybe some help in the songwriting department (lyrics, structure, etc). Another positive is that the majority of the stronger songs were from the BE era, so that indicates his writing is improving as well I think he had enough songs that were eligible for a solo album in between 2005 and 2008, why not now? Pass Me Down the Whine Boy With The Blues Show Me Your Love I'm Outta Time I Believe in All Evil Eye Guess God Thinks Man Of Misery Love Like A Bomb Won't Let You Down Soldier On *Read more: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85353/official-l4e-liam-gallagher-poll#ixzz4IYt2XT9k
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Aug 27, 2016 14:23:52 GMT -5
It's on <eL Gee ! This time you've got to write a record that grabs the attention of this guy.
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Post by korky on Sept 24, 2016 20:07:22 GMT -5
Lets look at the songs he wrote for Beady Eye. Say he hadn't done anything in 2011 and just released a solo album in 2013 with Dave Sitek, we would've had a collection of the below songs; - Wigwam - The Morning Son - Evil Eye - Off at the Next Exit - Start Anew - Shine A Light - Soul Love - The World's Not Set In Stone Throw in a couple of weaker tracks which is to be expected - Beatles & Stones - For Anyone - Man of Misery And that's a decent album. If Sitek had been at the helm for Wigwam and Morning Son that would've been interested. Anyway the point is Liam is obviously capable of not letting himself down with the right person behind the desk and maybe some help in the songwriting department (lyrics, structure, etc). Another positive is that the majority of the stronger songs were from the BE era, so that indicates his writing is improving as well I think he had enough songs that were eligible for a solo album in between 2005 and 2008, why not now? Pass Me Down the Whine Boy With The Blues Show Me Your Love I'm Outta Time I Believe in All Evil Eye Guess God Thinks Man Of Misery Love Like A Bomb Won't Let You Down Soldier On *Read more: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85353/official-l4e-liam-gallagher-poll#ixzz4IYt2XT9kI've reviewed your list (and made spelling corrections): Pass Me Down the Wine - shite Boy With The Blues - meh Show Me Your Love - not even a song I'm Outta Time - very good I Believe in All - meh Evil Eye - good Guess God Thinks I'm Abel - very good Man Of Misery - meh/decent Love Like A Bomb - very good Won't Let You Down - shite Soldier On - shite Furthermore, I've reviewed the previous list also: Wigwam - meh The Morning Son - shite Evil Eye - good Off at the Next Exit - Good Start Anew - shite Shine A Light - shite Soul Love - very good The World's Not Set In Stone - shite Beatles & Stones - decent For Anyone - good Man of Misery - meh/decent You forgot "Ain't Got Nothin'", but probably cos it's also shite. Surely "Don't Brother Me" is Liam's song? It's one of his best, just go on far too long, especially at the end, but could easily be edited down. Didn't Liam also write "Bring The Light"? It was the best song Beady Eye have written along with The Roller (which if I remember correctly was Gem's). Maybe it was a collective effort I was also sure Liam had written "Standing On The Edge of the Noise" which is a decent track. Not amazing, but decent. So, in summation, from 23 songs we have 4 very good songs (6 if we including "Don't Brother Me" and "Bring The Light") 4 good songs 3 decent songs (two of these are meh/decent) (4 if we including "Standing on the Edge of the Noise") 5 meh songs (two of these are meh/decent) 8 shite songs 1 that's not even a song ffs There's just about an album's worth in there. Of course, we couldn't include 11 of those songs cos they were released in Oasis's time (only 10, one of them isn't even a song ffs), so that rules out 3 of the 4 very good songs. All in all, he hasn't done a lot of good. I'm hopeful for a brighter future though and I'm looking forward to his first solo record. Hopefully more "Songbird"'s and less "Soldier On"'s
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 21:20:07 GMT -5
Bring the Light was written by Liam and Standing on the Edge of the Noise by Gem.
You can say what you want about Bring the Light but I think that was a really good choice as debut single.
I think Liam's contribution on BE was really good.
Flick of the Finger (Instrumental) Soul Love Don't Brother Me Shine a Light Start Anew The World's Not Set in Stone Evil Eye The songs written by Andy and Gem were the PYMWYMI and ICSAL's of BE. It's not that they were bad, but didn't really belong there (except for Second Bite of the Apple, Ballroom Figured, Back After the Break and Off at the Next Exit.) Someone on here said Liam's album will be like Richard's Ashcroft last album. Not great, but also far from bad.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 25, 2016 3:30:33 GMT -5
I don't think there is any 'proof' that Liam could write a decent solo album. That's not to say he won't, he is capable but I think he needs the right people around him for quality control or to keep pushing him when he needs it.
Liam has probably amassed quite a few songs in the last couple of years so hopefully with the help of his new collaborators he has enough worthy material ready to go.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 25, 2016 3:47:54 GMT -5
You can't prove anything until it's released.
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Post by cloudburster on Sept 25, 2016 10:26:03 GMT -5
Did Liam write Off at the next exit? The lyrics seem like his
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 10:36:31 GMT -5
he needs to modernise, DGSS was too retro, if its anything like that then he might as well release it straight to the bargain bin.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Sept 25, 2016 15:27:36 GMT -5
I've reviewed your list (and made spelling corrections): Pass Me Down the Wine - shite Boy With The Blues - meh Show Me Your Love - not even a song I'm Outta Time - very good I Believe in All - meh Evil Eye - good Guess God Thinks I'm Abel - very good Man Of Misery - meh/decent Love Like A Bomb - very good Won't Let You Down - shite Soldier On - shite Furthermore, I've reviewed the previous list also: Wigwam - meh The Morning Son - shite Evil Eye - good Off at the Next Exit - Good Start Anew - shite Shine A Light - shite Soul Love - very good The World's Not Set In Stone - shite Beatles & Stones - decent For Anyone - good Man of Misery - meh/decent You forgot "Ain't Got Nothin'", but probably cos it's also shite. Surely "Don't Brother Me" is Liam's song? It's one of his best, just go on far too long, especially at the end, but could easily be edited down. Didn't Liam also write "Bring The Light"? It was the best song Beady Eye have written along with The Roller (which if I remember correctly was Gem's). Maybe it was a collective effort I was also sure Liam had written "Standing On The Edge of the Noise" which is a decent track. Not amazing, but decent. So, in summation, from 23 songs we have 4 very good songs (6 if we including "Don't Brother Me" and "Bring The Light") 4 good songs 3 decent songs (two of these are meh/decent) (4 if we including "Standing on the Edge of the Noise") 5 meh songs (two of these are meh/decent) 8 shite songs 1 that's not even a song ffs There's just about an album's worth in there. Of course, we couldn't include 11 of those songs cos they were released in Oasis's time (only 10, one of them isn't even a song ffs), so that rules out 3 of the 4 very good songs. All in all, he hasn't done a lot of good. I'm hopeful for a brighter future though and I'm looking forward to his first solo record. Hopefully more "Songbird"'s and less "Soldier On"'s I give you a "meh" rating for this. You could have done better!
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Post by LlAM on Sept 26, 2016 12:43:01 GMT -5
Struggling to find 8-11 songs from his post-Oasis career that aren't bad out of which none of them are brilliant combined with the condition that Sitek or similar has to produce them to make the listenable/remotely interesting, is not a good sign.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 26, 2016 13:11:45 GMT -5
The only way this album will be genuinely good and not just appealing to the likes of us nutters is if he collaborates with good songwriters and great producers. Luckily for Liam, I've made him a list...
SONGWRITERS TO WRITE WITH: Richard Ashcroft Damon Albarn Justin Vernon Robert Del Naja Pete Doherty / Carl Barat Ian Brown Alex Turner
PRODUCERS TO RECORD WITH: Brian Eno Jon Hopkins Jamie XX Yeezus Danger Mouse Nigel Godrich
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 26, 2016 13:20:16 GMT -5
The only way this album will be genuinely good and not just appealing to the likes of us nutters is if he collaborates with good songwriters and great producers. Luckily for Liam, I've made him a list... SONGWRITERS TO WRITE WITH: Richard Ashcroft Damon Albarn Justin Vernon Robert Del Naja Pete Doherty / Carl Barat Ian Brown Alex Turner PRODUCERS TO RECORD WITH: Brian Eno Jon Hopkins Jamie XX Yeezus Danger Mouse Nigel Godrich He has been collaborating with some talented people. I would expect the producer to be someone of note to. I doubt he'll be writing with anyone now as It wouldn't surprise me if the album is near completion.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Sept 26, 2016 13:46:19 GMT -5
The only way this album will be genuinely good and not just appealing to the likes of us nutters is if he collaborates with good songwriters and great producers. Luckily for Liam, I've made him a list... SONGWRITERS TO WRITE WITH: Richard Ashcroft Damon Albarn Justin Vernon Robert Del Naja Pete Doherty / Carl Barat Ian Brown Alex Turner PRODUCERS TO RECORD WITH: Brian Eno Jon Hopkins Jamie XX Yeezus Danger Mouse Nigel Godrich Brian Eno <333
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Sept 26, 2016 13:47:52 GMT -5
Two words: Anton Newcombe
Visit Berlin and make a great record with that genius.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 26, 2016 13:55:12 GMT -5
Two words: Anton Newcombe Visit Berlin and make a great record with that genius. Fuck yeah.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Sept 26, 2016 13:57:31 GMT -5
guess we wont know till it comes out i just hope its not shit
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 14:02:24 GMT -5
Good melodies and I'll be happy.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 26, 2016 14:19:20 GMT -5
It's on <eL Gee ! This time you've got to write a record that grabs the attention of this guy. Not going to happen. Amphony Blamtano doesn't really like that kind of music. At the very least, he dislikes all or most output from the Gallaghers, including Oasis. He reviewed DGSS just to trash it and didn't even bother with any High Flying Birds review.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 26, 2016 14:25:58 GMT -5
I'll take anything, but I wish Liam would try his hand at a non-beatles/lennon sounding song. I would like to see him attempt "pop". Something upbeat and driving, rather than ballad after ballad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 15:13:31 GMT -5
Would something like These People be alright?
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