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Post by tiger40 on Dec 2, 2023 13:43:46 GMT -5
It's Better People still has that Chasing the Sun nostalgic magic...then again maybe because getting the singles was such a chore over here in the States all those songs get elevated a touch from that alone. It just reminds me of warm summer days that seem to last forever and listening to all the singles on a CD player one after the other. Good stuff. I'm surprised how many people slag It's Better People off, especially when you think about Noel's solo work, where many songs are instantly forgettable. It's Better People isn't a masterpice, but it's a really nice b-side, with an awesome solo/outro. Yeah I agree with you there. While I like most of Noel's solo songs they're not all memorable and of course It's Better People isn't a master piece and it never will be. But for a B.side it does the job. |
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Post by freek on Dec 2, 2023 13:58:48 GMT -5
Oasis stood still, Noel didn’t have the balls to continue down the experimental route after “Giants”, instead he reverted to type. This is the reason why they are not and never will be considered one of the greatest bands of all time. I think Oasis is considered one of the greatest bands of all time on this website and in the UK. However, loads of people dislike Oasis because of their blunt, arrogant attitude, so already before SOTSOG, many agreed because of that they weren't GOAT's. |
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Post by dadrocker on Dec 3, 2023 8:39:11 GMT -5
While The Song...forgettable? Yeesh. One of his best sanguine melancholic songs of his solo career. Good stuff. Shame he can't/doesn't play it live in his normal gigs.
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Post by capo2ndfret on Dec 4, 2023 6:31:28 GMT -5
In that case, every Noel song is a masterpiece, I have nothing else to say lmao.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jan 20, 2024 17:26:15 GMT -5
The Phonic's version of Hindu Times is superior.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 22, 2024 9:18:39 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion
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Post by Aman on Jan 22, 2024 17:18:32 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion Good Lord. |
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Post by matt on Jan 22, 2024 18:38:43 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion |
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Post by Marissa on Jan 23, 2024 15:24:26 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion I agree about and only about DOYS. |
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Post by carlober on Jan 23, 2024 16:18:32 GMT -5
PYMWYMI is a tune.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 24, 2024 0:09:02 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion I agree about and only about DOYS. DBTT was my introduction to Oasis. Lyla is a song that still reminds me after nearly 20 years, why I have fallen in love with them. I am a neo psych fan so I think dig out your soul is really great. I get why people don't like the b side but I have to say I dig it. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 24, 2024 13:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by Marissa on Jan 24, 2024 15:00:52 GMT -5
I agree about and only about DOYS. DBTT was my introduction to Oasis. Lyla is a song that still reminds me after nearly 20 years, why I have fallen in love with them. I am a neo psych fan so I think dig out your soul is really great. I get why people don't like the b side but I have to say I dig it. DBTT has some of their best songs (TIOBI is insane) but it's just so inconsistent. I feel you though, DOYS was my intro to Oasis - I had terrible timing to become a fan of a band that was about to cease to exist - and it blew my mind. |
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Post by carlober on Jan 24, 2024 15:15:21 GMT -5
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Jan 25, 2024 13:50:35 GMT -5
Thr last two Oasis albums are the best, beside definitely maybe in my opinion Good Lord. The Lord Won't Slow Him Down! Basically what makes that opinion uncontroversial is not including Morning Glory with Definitely Maybe. Everything else I can get on board with. But yeah the lack of mention of Morning Glory there is definitely unpopular! |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 25, 2024 14:09:59 GMT -5
Oh I knew which song you were talking about but I certainly don't think that it's a tune. Mind you, it's better than I Can See A Liar. |
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Post by niftium on Jan 25, 2024 14:37:37 GMT -5
Oh I knew which song you were talking about but I certainly don't think that it's a tune. Mind you, it's better than I Can See A Liar. That's the thread winning comment right there. ICSAL is top tier Oasis for me! For years, when Noel said he didn't like one of the songs on this album, I thought it was PYMWYMI. It's a harsh mix, but I think it's still a good tune. |
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Post by yogurt on Jan 25, 2024 20:39:13 GMT -5
Gem has a better voice than Noel.
There's definitely a very nasal sound to Gem's voice which people may dislike, however I think his voice in Heavy Stereo still sounds like a lead singer.
I don't think Noel really has a voice that works for full albums. He was more suited to backing vocals and the odd tune. He sounds OK because you get accustomed to his voice over the years, but there's no way he would've got anywhere with a band being the lead singer.
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Post by The Chief on Jan 26, 2024 6:51:31 GMT -5
Gem has a better voice than Noel. There's definitely a very nasal sound to Gem's voice which people may dislike, however I think his voice in Heavy Stereo still sounds like a lead singer. I don't think Noel really has a voice that works for full albums. He was more suited to backing vocals and the odd tune. He sounds OK because you get accustomed to his voice over the years, but there's no way he would've got anywhere with a band being the lead singer. I disagree with this one. He sounds amateur at best. He's a brilliant guitar player and does write the occasional great tune, but he's not a singer. And he's not even a not-a-singer à la David Bowie or Bob Dylan, he's not a singer in a recording demos in his room and putting treble on it way. Best thing that happened to his songs is Liam singing them. I actually feel the same way about Andy too. |
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Post by yogurt on Jan 26, 2024 7:30:48 GMT -5
Gem has a better voice than Noel. There's definitely a very nasal sound to Gem's voice which people may dislike, however I think his voice in Heavy Stereo still sounds like a lead singer. I don't think Noel really has a voice that works for full albums. He was more suited to backing vocals and the odd tune. He sounds OK because you get accustomed to his voice over the years, but there's no way he would've got anywhere with a band being the lead singer. I disagree with this one. He sounds amateur at best. He's a brilliant guitar player and does write the occasional great tune, but he's not a singer. And he's not even a not-a-singer à la David Bowie or Bob Dylan, he's not a singer in a recording demos in his room and putting treble on it way. Best thing that happened to his songs is Liam singing them. I actually feel the same way about Andy too. I don't know, I think he sounds OK. Not great by any stretch but he fine on heavy stereo stuff. I don't think Heavy Stereo were much good anyway but his voice fits. I'd say Noel's voice is amateur level, but it's just become familiar. He is not a bad singer at all, I just don't think he has a good voice. I don't think Oasis would've even had the minor success of Heavy Stereo if Noel was the front man. One of the worst things Oasis did was start putting more than 1 song with Noel singing on the albums Andy Bell isn't really a singer but I don't think he's really claimed to be, it's not his forte. |
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Post by The Chief on Jan 26, 2024 11:20:56 GMT -5
I disagree with this one. He sounds amateur at best. He's a brilliant guitar player and does write the occasional great tune, but he's not a singer. And he's not even a not-a-singer à la David Bowie or Bob Dylan, he's not a singer in a recording demos in his room and putting treble on it way. Best thing that happened to his songs is Liam singing them. I actually feel the same way about Andy too. I don't know, I think he sounds OK. Not great by any stretch but he fine on heavy stereo stuff. I don't think Heavy Stereo were much good anyway but his voice fits. I'd say Noel's voice is amateur level, but it's just become familiar. He is not a bad singer at all, I just don't think he has a good voice. I don't think Oasis would've even had the minor success of Heavy Stereo if Noel was the front man. One of the worst things Oasis did was start putting more than 1 song with Noel singing on the albums Andy Bell isn't really a singer but I don't think he's really claimed to be, it's not his forte. Yeah it's all a matter of taste. Noel's not the best singer but I wouldn't call him amateur. He's a good singer for what he does like Dylan, Bowie or Jagger. He doesn't have a good voice as such though and Oasis definitely wouldn't have made it with him as the front man, both because of his voice, especially at the time, but also because he doesn't have the frontman persona, even today. But his voice has been much better in the past 15 years than it was in the earlier Oasis days. I think people follow him because of the songs more than his voice. But I always liked his voice. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 28, 2024 9:19:24 GMT -5
I don't know, I think he sounds OK. Not great by any stretch but he fine on heavy stereo stuff. I don't think Heavy Stereo were much good anyway but his voice fits. I'd say Noel's voice is amateur level, but it's just become familiar. He is not a bad singer at all, I just don't think he has a good voice. I don't think Oasis would've even had the minor success of Heavy Stereo if Noel was the front man. One of the worst things Oasis did was start putting more than 1 song with Noel singing on the albums Andy Bell isn't really a singer but I don't think he's really claimed to be, it's not his forte. Yeah it's all a matter of taste. Noel's not the best singer but I wouldn't call him amateur. He's a good singer for what he does like Dylan, Bowie or Jagger. He doesn't have a good voice as such though and Oasis definitely wouldn't have made it with him as the front man, both because of his voice, especially at the time, but also because he doesn't have the frontman persona, even today. But his voice has been much better in the past 15 years than it was in the earlier Oasis days. I think people follow him because of the songs more than his voice. But I always liked his voice. I think Noel’s pretty good but he isn’t on the level of those 3. |
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Post by The Chief on Jan 28, 2024 9:40:15 GMT -5
Yeah it's all a matter of taste. Noel's not the best singer but I wouldn't call him amateur. He's a good singer for what he does like Dylan, Bowie or Jagger. He doesn't have a good voice as such though and Oasis definitely wouldn't have made it with him as the front man, both because of his voice, especially at the time, but also because he doesn't have the frontman persona, even today. But his voice has been much better in the past 15 years than it was in the earlier Oasis days. I think people follow him because of the songs more than his voice. But I always liked his voice. I think Noel’s pretty good but he isn’t on the level of those 3. No it's not nearly as iconic. I was just comparing the type of singer he is. Not a voice singer just a singer for his songs. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 8, 2024 9:53:24 GMT -5
I get why Alan White is loved here but sometimes I loathe his drumming.
Supersonic for example.... he gave it that lighter swing and the song needs that heavy intro. Whenever I listen to alan whites drumming on familiar to millions it feels off on the definitely maybe tracks.
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Post by The Chief on Feb 8, 2024 11:03:35 GMT -5
I get why Alan White is loved here but sometimes I loathe his drumming. Supersonic for example.... he gave it that lighter swing and the song needs that heavy intro. Whenever I listen to alan whites drumming on familiar to millions it feels off on the definitely maybe tracks. Yeah but Familiar to Millions is a very very bad example of Whitey's abilities. He had his wrist issues back then so he would almost only use his ride cymbal, snear and bass drums. For example: |
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