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Post by eva on Jul 4, 2016 7:00:27 GMT -5
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 4, 2016 10:27:24 GMT -5
Good old pep, still giving the same interview like he did in munich for three years.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jul 4, 2016 13:48:28 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jul 4, 2016 14:04:10 GMT -5
Good old pep, still giving the same interview like he did in munich for three years. Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jul 4, 2016 14:29:14 GMT -5
Good old pep, still giving the same interview like he did in munich for three years. Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. Well he didn't do as well as Heynckes the previous manager at Bayern. |
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Post by matt on Jul 4, 2016 14:32:20 GMT -5
Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. Well he didn't do as well as Heynckes the previous manager at Bayern. Yeah, the bare minimum was to win the Champions League. At the very least, they should have been major contenders but the reality is they never got close to it under Pep. |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Jul 4, 2016 14:58:32 GMT -5
I wanna be so rich and famous they bring Noel Gallagher in to interview me. Granted he would probably need one of those old timey hearing aids by then.  |
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Post by matt on Jul 4, 2016 15:27:06 GMT -5
Noel: "Do you listen to Oasis?"
Pep: "I prefer Coldplay."
Noel: "..."
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Post by Manualex on Jul 4, 2016 15:52:48 GMT -5
Noel: "Do you listen to Oasis?" Pep: "I prefer Coldplay." Noel: "..." The James Blunt remark had me crying. |
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Post by carlosfazano on Jul 5, 2016 6:08:24 GMT -5
Thank you very much for the link, eva!!
Cheers!
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 5, 2016 6:46:07 GMT -5
Good old pep, still giving the same interview like he did in munich for three years. Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. I'm glad hes gone now. Since his first day in munich it was like jesus turned up. It was madness. Everybody talked about how he would influence the bundesliga and all the teams with his style of play and he would bring bayern to another level. Well he did not, and even though he had his moments like the most dominant performance ive ever seen against City, he left a team without a clear matchplan or philosophy. And without winning the CL, which in 2 out of 3 cases was mainly his fault. But people blame him more for being a closed book in front of journalists which he doesnt seem to respect much. I never had the feeling that i gained any information after anything he said. Sometimes he even refused to say anything at all after games, he just didnt turn up to give interviews. And considering your press is way more agressive with people, that could turn into a real problem for him. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 5, 2016 7:06:37 GMT -5
Every passing year Noel looks more and more like Sam The Eagle. Uncanny!   |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 7:38:44 GMT -5
he reminds me of Jose Mourinho a little bit, the way he talks, the way he looks.....
I think he is the best choice for Man City tho.... but maybe just a feeling.... we'll see.... and I don't want him to win anyways since I'm a Chelsea supporter xD
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 6, 2016 4:31:14 GMT -5
Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. I'm glad hes gone now. Since his first day in munich it was like jesus turned up. It was madness. Everybody talked about how he would influence the bundesliga and all the teams with his style of play and he would bring bayern to another level. Well he did not, and even though he had his moments like the most dominant performance ive ever seen against City, he left a team without a clear matchplan or philosophy. And without winning the CL, which in 2 out of 3 cases was mainly his fault. But people blame him more for being a closed book in front of journalists which he doesnt seem to respect much. I never had the feeling that i gained any information after anything he said. Sometimes he even refused to say anything at all after games, he just didnt turn up to give interviews. And considering your press is way more agressive with people, that could turn into a real problem for him. If you think that's bad you should have a read of the Newcastle Chronicle since Rafa Benitez took over- I doubt even a North Korean newspaper could do such a positive PR spin on the club and manager, including the relegation which by their reporting appears to be the best thing that could have happened to Newcastle United F.C. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 6, 2016 4:39:17 GMT -5
he reminds me of Jose Mourinho a little bit, the way he talks, the way he looks..... I think he is the best choice for Man City tho.... but maybe just a feeling.... we'll see.... and I don't want him to win anyways since I'm a Chelsea supporter xD The key difference being Jose has won the Champions League with a more unfancied side in Porto, who I know during his tenure outspent the rest of the Portuguese league but compared to other CL sides it was an achievement. Pep Guardiola has complained about not being as highly rated as he thinks he should be but to be fair he took over arguably one of the greatest Barcelona teams and won trophies, but IMO never quite cut it at Bayern Munich where perhaps others would have delivered, and I personally think he will struggle with Manchester City and the Premier League, particularly as it is no longer just them and two or three other clubs investing heavily in their squads. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 6:05:23 GMT -5
he reminds me of Jose Mourinho a little bit, the way he talks, the way he looks..... I think he is the best choice for Man City tho.... but maybe just a feeling.... we'll see.... and I don't want him to win anyways since I'm a Chelsea supporter xD The key difference being Jose has won the Champions League with a more unfancied side in Porto, who I know during his tenure outspent the rest of the Portuguese league but compared to other CL sides it was an achievement. Pep Guardiola has complained about not being as highly rated as he thinks he should be but to be fair he took over arguably one of the greatest Barcelona teams and won trophies, but IMO never quite cut it a Bayern Munich where perhaps others would have delivered, and I personally think he will struggle with Manchester City and the Premier League, particularly as it is no longer just them and two or three other clubs investing heavily in their squads. interesting to know..... thanks  even more curious now how next season's gonna turn out! and Jose is the special one anyways.... still sad we lost him for Man United tho....  |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jul 6, 2016 6:45:55 GMT -5
Good old pep, still giving the same interview like he did in munich for three years. Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. The big problem Pep had in Munich was that he arrived when Bayern had just won the CL, the Bundesliga and the DFB cup. They then transferred a few additional great players in Thiago and Götze, and everybody expected Pep to win every single game. Problem is, you can't win the CL just like that, because the other teams have great players and great coaches as well. Many people overlook it, but in 2013, Bayern had one single injury of a key player in the entire second half of the season, Robben and Ribery were in the shape of their lives and didn't miss a single important match - that never happened again. When Bayern got eliminated by Barca in 2015, three or four of their best players were out at the time, but people blamed Pep. It certainly didn't help that Pep seemed very thin skinned at times, didn't take well to criticism, and generally seems to believe that possession of the ball is more important than actually scoring (if you're a City fan, prepare to see your team have 75%+ possession in a 0-1 loss against an inferior team). He also fired Bayern's medical expert (who was somewhat of a legend) because he believed his team was doing a suboptimal job. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 6, 2016 6:50:40 GMT -5
The key difference being Jose has won the Champions League with a more unfancied side in Porto, who I know during his tenure outspent the rest of the Portuguese league but compared to other CL sides it was an achievement. Pep Guardiola has complained about not being as highly rated as he thinks he should be but to be fair he took over arguably one of the greatest Barcelona teams and won trophies, but IMO never quite cut it a Bayern Munich where perhaps others would have delivered, and I personally think he will struggle with Manchester City and the Premier League, particularly as it is no longer just them and two or three other clubs investing heavily in their squads. interesting to know..... thanks even more curious now how next season's gonna turn out! and Jose is the special one anyways.... still sad we lost him for Man United tho.... I wrote this just over a month ago about Manchester United in another thread The thing with Jose Mourinho for me as I posted above is that he is a manager who will get you results with trophies for two to three years on average as long as you back him with high figure multimillion pound transfer funds each season. He is not however the man for a long term plan beyond that, nor IMO is he a man to develop or bring through youth players. Chelsea have a chance to rebuild under Conte this season, whilst Manchester United will be looking to stabilise and regroup in a near post Alex Ferguson era (although the man himself remains on the scene). If I was on the board of the latter club I would still be planning longer term and be on the lookout for Mourniho's successor, as I think it will be two or maybe three seasons maximum before he moves on regardless of the success or otherwise he has at Old Trafford. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 14:12:26 GMT -5
interesting to know..... thanks even more curious now how next season's gonna turn out! and Jose is the special one anyways.... still sad we lost him for Man United tho.... I wrote this just over a month ago about Manchester United in another thread The thing with Jose Mourinho for me as I posted above is that he is a manager who will get you results with trophies for two to three years on average as long as you back him with high figure multimillion pound transfer funds each season. He is not however the man for a long term plan beyond that, nor IMO is he a man to develop or bring through youth players. Chelsea have a chance to rebuild under Conte this season, whilst Manchester United will be looking to stabilise and regroup in a near post Alex Ferguson era (although the man himself remains on the scene). If I was on the board of the latter club I would still be planning longer term and be on the lookout for Mourniho's successor, as I think it will be two or maybe three seasons maximum before he moves on regardless of the success or otherwise he has at Old Trafford. I might agree with a few points from your side tho......  for me Jose will be the special one, always, because he changed the game forever! he brought back what was long gone.... team spirit!!! this year it will be totally different anyway..... I mean.... Pep, Conte, Mourinho, Klopp, Ranieri..... bring on next season!! |
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Post by matt on Jul 6, 2016 15:17:51 GMT -5
Is he going to be well and truly found out in the league? I read reports that Munich fans were pretty ambivalent towards him, and didn't shed any tears at his departure. The whole personality cult of him in this country is still based on his reputation from five plus years ago. Such is the backward island mentality of the UK. The big problem Pep had in Munich was that he arrived when Bayern had just won the CL, the Bundesliga and the DFB cup. They then transferred a few additional great players in Thiago and Götze, and everybody expected Pep to win every single game. Problem is, you can't win the CL just like that, because the other teams have great players and great coaches as well. Many people overlook it, but in 2013, Bayern had one single injury of a key player in the entire second half of the season, Robben and Ribery were in the shape of their lives and didn't miss a single important match - that never happened again. When Bayern got eliminated by Barca in 2015, three or four of their best players were out at the time, but people blamed Pep. It certainly didn't help that Pep seemed very thin skinned at times, didn't take well to criticism, and generally seems to believe that possession of the ball is more important than actually scoring (if you're a City fan, prepare to see your team have 75%+ possession in a 0-1 loss against an inferior team). He also fired Bayern's medical expert (who was somewhat of a legend) because he believed his team was doing a suboptimal job. That high pressing intense game that Henyckes replicated from Klopp's Dortmund suited the medical staff well I heard. I read rumours that they felt undermined and that Guardiola didn't put so much emphasis on fitness like Henyckes did. Interesting then that the fitness coach who excelled with Munich in 2013 is joining up with Klopp at Liverpool (whose style ideally suits), rather than following Guardiola. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jul 7, 2016 4:09:39 GMT -5
^I believe that in a heartbeat. That's the problem with Pep, he's stubborn as fuck, and when things don't work for a while it gets ugly quickly.
That Heynckes style of combining Klopp's tactics with a more controlling approach was so good btw...2013 Bayern could easily dominate a lesser opponent the same way Pep's Bayern did, but against other top teams they could win a game by playing it clever (e.g. the 3-0 and 4-0 wins against Barca in the CL). Pep is a great tactician, but he refuses to play any style that isn't possession oriented. Will be very interesting to see how well that works with City.
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) and even Leeds United who through a combination of lack of spending, leveraging debt for non-football purposes and reckless spending that didn't come off have been marginalised from the top of English football where they once were, and which as we their supporters can tell you is a long road back from.
