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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2023 18:36:42 GMT -5
The new re-imagined album sounds promising. Like the clips I’ve heard so far. Now at the stage of this being more preferable than some desperate Ryan Tedder produced MOR attempt to appeal to youngsters. Fascinated to see obscure songs like If God Will Send Angels, Dirty Day, Stories For Boys on there, not ones I'd expect, but can't wait to hear how they redo these. And no bad thing to hear personal favourite Stay too. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 12, 2023 23:00:29 GMT -5
The new re-imagined album sounds promising. Like the clips I’ve heard so far. Now at the stage of this being more preferable than some desperate Ryan Tedder produced MOR attempt to appeal to youngsters. Fascinated to see obscure songs like If God Will Send Angels, Dirty Day, Stories For Boys on there, not ones I'd expect, but can't wait to hear how they redo these. And no bad thing to hear personal favourite Stay too. I think it is a very cool project, especially with Larry out for the year with Lower back surgery. Noel said he thought of doing a similar style project or reimagining Oasis songs. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 13, 2023 1:15:11 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Jan 13, 2023 9:56:24 GMT -5
The rework of Pride sounds pretty crap to be honest.
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2023 18:02:26 GMT -5
The rework of Pride sounds pretty crap to be honest. I liked it, mainly for Bono's vocals. He properly reigns it in, and if there's something he hasn't done enough of in recent years, it's a bit of restraint in the vocals. His lower register croon that made the majority of their 90s songs has been massively under utilised since 2000. |
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Post by World71R on Jan 14, 2023 0:00:35 GMT -5
The new re-imagined album sounds promising. Like the clips I’ve heard so far. I'm glad you like it because the U2 fanbase has been extremely split over it. I think it has promise. Pride sounds good. The Beautiful Day snippet was kinda so-so but there's still potential in the project being good, especially with each member choosing ten songs for the collection. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 14, 2023 0:04:34 GMT -5
Have they rerecorded the songs or are they remixes using the same stems?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 14, 2023 0:18:05 GMT -5
Have they rerecorded the songs or are they remixes using the same stems? Sounds like re-records. |
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Post by Manualex on Jan 14, 2023 0:20:50 GMT -5
Have they rerecorded the songs or are they remixes using the same stems? Sounds like re-records. Pride sounds like in the final chorus uses Bono original recording. Otherwise it's a re-recording. |
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Post by 2nz on Jan 23, 2023 11:58:32 GMT -5
100 dingbats for the vinyl edition!
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Post by matt on Feb 15, 2023 13:18:51 GMT -5
U2 without Larry is not U2.
This new drummer drafted in while he is injured takes away a lot of what is special about this band. First time in nearly 50 years that the original lineup is intentionally out (discarding Adam missing the first Sydney show of Zoo TV due to severe hangover) and to me it signals that the band is very much fragmenting with old age.
Rick Beato with a perfect take as always (James Hargreaves fans take note, this is how you do video blogs).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 15, 2023 15:03:41 GMT -5
U2 without Larry is not U2. This new drummer drafted in while he is injured takes away a lot of what is special about this band. First time in nearly 50 years that the original lineup is intentionally out (discarding Adam missing the first Sydney show of Zoo TV due to severe hangover) and to me it signals that the band is very much fragmenting with old age. Rick Beato with a perfect take as always (James Hargreaves fans take note, this is how you do video blogs). It just goes to show that Bono really just can’t help himself. Yes we all know this vegas ideas has been in the works for years. It’s unfortunate COVID happened and also that Larry had a severe back injury to deal with this winter. That put a huge wrinkle in their intentions. Larry should be there. It’s weird that he won’t be. They just can’t wait until next year? It has to happen now? It feels like U2 doesn’t wanna give up being the first in the sphere. |
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Post by matt on Feb 19, 2023 6:16:34 GMT -5
U2 without Larry is not U2. This new drummer drafted in while he is injured takes away a lot of what is special about this band. First time in nearly 50 years that the original lineup is intentionally out (discarding Adam missing the first Sydney show of Zoo TV due to severe hangover) and to me it signals that the band is very much fragmenting with old age. Rick Beato with a perfect take as always (James Hargreaves fans take note, this is how you do video blogs). It just goes to show that Bono really just can’t help himself. Yes we all know this vegas ideas has been in the works for years. It’s unfortunate COVID happened and also that Larry had a severe back injury to deal with this winter. That put a huge wrinkle in their intentions. Larry should be there. It’s weird that he won’t be. They just can’t wait until next year? It has to happen now? It feels like U2 doesn’t wanna give up being the first in the sphere.  |
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Post by Jim on Mar 24, 2023 2:16:26 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Mar 26, 2023 18:34:24 GMT -5
Been dipping in and out of Songs of Surrender in the last week since it came out. It's great fun. Inevitably for a 40 song package, it's hit and miss.
The misses are mostly the stone cold classic hit singles, so ubiquitous and delivered to perfection at first time of asking that it's all but impossible to hear them in another light. Also, far too much attention given to Songs of Innocence (their worst album). But pleasantly surprised at just how much they've really reigned it in (it really is just a Bono & Edge album), and even more surprisingly they haven't brought in some flavour of the month collaborations to ruin classics in a desperate bid to remain 'relevant'.
Such a big collection makes it easy to ignore the misses however. A couple of deep cuts that I'm a big fan of...
Hard to believe they were 18 when they wrote this one! Very other worldly and earnest for a band at that age, this one is performed solely by The Edge.
And probably my favourite ever U2 song, this reinterpretation showing that its impossible to screw this song up. Bono varying his vocals on this one from lower to higher, not emoting as much which I prefer. The masterpiece amongst masterpieces they've written.
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Post by Marcos on Mar 27, 2023 9:48:28 GMT -5
It just goes to show that Bono really just can’t help himself. Yes we all know this vegas ideas has been in the works for years. It’s unfortunate COVID happened and also that Larry had a severe back injury to deal with this winter. That put a huge wrinkle in their intentions. Larry should be there. It’s weird that he won’t be. They just can’t wait until next year? It has to happen now? It feels like U2 doesn’t wanna give up being the first in the sphere. Brilliant reference, Matt!  |
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Post by 2nz on Mar 27, 2023 16:23:41 GMT -5
Been dipping in and out of Songs of Surrender in the last week since it came out. It's great fun. Inevitably for a 40 song package, it's hit and miss. The misses are mostly the stone cold classic hit singles, so ubiquitous and delivered to perfection at first time of asking that it's all but impossible to hear them in another light. Also, far too much attention given to Songs of Innocence (their worst album). But pleasantly surprised at just how much they've really reigned it in (it really is just a Bono & Edge album), and even more surprisingly they haven't brought in some flavour of the month collaborations to ruin classics in a desperate bid to remain 'relevant'. Such a big collection makes it easy to ignore the misses however. A couple of deep cuts that I'm a big fan of... Hard to believe they were 18 when they wrote this one! Very other worldly and earnest for a band at that age, this one is performed solely by The Edge. And probably my favourite ever U2 song, this reinterpretation showing that its impossible to screw this song up. Bono varying his vocals on this one from lower to higher, not emoting as much which I prefer. The masterpiece amongst masterpieces they've written. Been listening through Songs of Surrender, and have a few thoughts. - It's a fairly fun project- I've no problem with adding new meaning to songs and interpretations. Everything I've read says it's a The Edge led project, but he's mostly left it to Mr. Vox to shine.
- Bono's voice is in great shape
- Bono's lyrical retouching is definitely what happens when you've been at the booze cupboard at 4am in lockdown. That version of Walk On is atrocious. Sunday Bloody Sunday- which in essence could have a conclusive verse about the victims of Bloody Sunday being finally vindicated, instead has a really ham fisted finish. They're two examples. There's far more.
- We really didn't need another version of One, or a few other of the big hits.
- There's a lingering resentment in the U2 camp about how badly their modern songs have been received- since 2010 we've had a few shelved albums, plans changed after the world collectively shrugged when Invisible came out- it was through Surrender, with the amount of later tunes getting chapters and now this.
- The Disney Documentary, A Sort of Homecoming, is a decent watch. I love the two lads. They can laugh at themselves. David Letterman seems a dude. But Imelda May gets handed one of the worst looking pints of Guinness I can remember seeing on screen, and it's stuck with me since I watched it.
- The Tiny Desk sums up everything that's right and wrong with the whole project.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 27, 2023 23:57:58 GMT -5
I've been listening to this album pretty regularly for the last 2-3 weeks. I enjoy it for what it is so I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch over lyric changes. It does feel weird that Larry and Adam basically have no involvement. It is the Bono and Edge show with is fine. Maybe Edge should produce the next U2 album? I'm tired of them always taking 3-6 years to make one with dozens of sessions with dozens of producers only to end up with drivel. Anyways.......
Some of the songs chosen definitely weren't required. Every Breaking Wave, Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses, Stuck In A Moment, Song For Someone, All I Want Is You sound like versions we have already gotten as b-sides or bonus tracks on deluxe editions. Seems like a retread.
I wish they explored more of POP and Zooropa in this project. Even Acrobat of Achtung Baby. Seems wild they didn't pick Wanderer.
My highlights include Stories For The Boys, Beautiful Day, Pride, Red Mining Town, Invisible, Vertigo, Electrical Storm, The Fly, If God Will Send His Angel, Desire, Stay. Invisible should have been the first single. Sounds so good with all the Danger Mouse production stripped away. Sounds like a song you'd hear a busker sing by the train station if that makes sense. Love that Edge sings two songs.
I don't think any of the big boy tracks needed to be here but I get why they did include them. They pay the bills for decades: One, Where The Streets Have No Name, With or Without You, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For.
Noel has spoken about doing something like this while in lockdown. I think I'd be ok with it but not at the expense of another new album. I could only imagine the backlash if he changed lyrics and shit. Songs of Surrender has been hit or miss for so many publications.
The documentary was good. I definitely enjoyed it even though none of the stories were new. U2 has had their story told so many times over and over.
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Post by carlober on Sept 30, 2023 1:57:43 GMT -5
This is... bang average?
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Post by glider on Sept 30, 2023 3:02:15 GMT -5
Weak tune and sounds like the same boring retail store music they've been making since 2009. Sounds exactly like something off Songs of Innocence in particular. Got slightly better towards the end with Bono's impressionist lyrics there, but yeah. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 30, 2023 11:19:06 GMT -5
Those videos from the Sphere last night are stunning.
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Post by glider on Sept 30, 2023 11:44:17 GMT -5
Those videos from the Sphere last night are stunning. Just took a look at some footage. Looks cool but no Larry Mullen is lame. No offense to his replacement, he looks solid but it's not U2 IMO. |
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 30, 2023 11:56:21 GMT -5
Appaling new tune, and Bono his Vox is starting to deteriorate, it sounds like the same souless polished turd tunes that they released on all those post ATYCLB albums, didn't want to compare but it can't hold a candle to the new Rolling Stones tunes.
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Post by matt on Sept 30, 2023 14:16:19 GMT -5
Bland beyond belief. Generic 'rawk' music, uninspired to the extreme. Who are they trying to kid when they try to write rock songs, we've suffered enough with The Miracle and American Soul.
U2 rocking out genuinely sound like a parody of a rock band. Dunno what happened to their artfulness and ambition, it's unrecognisable from the band they once were.
If it's a long term thing that Larry is unable to tour, then they ought to call it a day.
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Post by glider on Sept 30, 2023 15:32:38 GMT -5
The single artwork. Yikes!  |
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