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Post by justicewall65 on May 11, 2016 15:58:09 GMT -5
Has Noel ever said anything about why the band included a snippet of an acoustic Noel-sung version of Morning Glory at the beginning and end of Acquiesce? It seems during this period they were experimenting with this technique quite a bit -- Hello features an acoustic quote of Wonderwall in the introduction while Wonderwall itself ends with a little snippet of an acoustic version of Supersonic.
Any thoughts on why they did it? Did Noel or any other member of Oasis ever comment on this? The self-referentialness is a little reminiscent of the Beatles, who also quoted and referenced their own songs (All You Need is Love contains a send-up of She Loves You, Glass Onion and I Am The Walrus also reference other Beatles songs). Curious to hear everyone's thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 16:03:49 GMT -5
Wonderwall itself ends with a little snippet of an acoustic version of Supersonic. does it?  |
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Post by MacaRonic on May 11, 2016 16:04:56 GMT -5
Wonderwall itself ends with a little snippet of an acoustic version of Supersonic. does it? It does. |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on May 11, 2016 16:05:19 GMT -5
Wonderwall itself ends with a little snippet of an acoustic version of Supersonic. does it? Yes it does. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 11, 2016 16:05:56 GMT -5
Maybe it was the Beatles influence. Maybe they were just high as a kite.
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Post by davidjay on May 11, 2016 16:08:18 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing acoustically on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. Noel spoke about this in an interview printed alongside Select magazine's original review of Morning Glory. |
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Post by justicewall65 on May 11, 2016 16:12:00 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. This is very informative! Thank you. |
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Post by arthurmorgan on May 11, 2016 16:16:32 GMT -5
It's also a little preview of a song that hadn't been released yet. A very nice idea actually
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Post by matt on May 11, 2016 16:24:44 GMT -5
Has Noel ever said anything about why the band included a snippet of an acoustic Noel-sung version of Morning Glory at the beginning and end of Acquiesce? It seems during this period they were experimenting with this technique quite a bit -- Hello features an acoustic quote of Wonderwall in the introduction while Wonderwall itself ends with a little snippet of an acoustic version of Supersonic.Any thoughts on why they did it? Did Noel or any other member of Oasis ever comment on this? The self-referentialness is a little reminiscent of the Beatles, who also quoted and referenced their own songs (All You Need is Love contains a send-up of She Loves You, Glass Onion and I Am The Walrus also reference other Beatles songs). Curious to hear everyone's thoughts. D'oh! I cannot believe I did not recognise that acoustic riff at the end after all these years!  |
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Post by spud on May 11, 2016 18:54:04 GMT -5
Not really Supersonic is it, just seems to have coincidentally almost played the same notes
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Post by mkoasis on May 11, 2016 20:52:32 GMT -5
He plays notes from Cadd9 Em7 G, capo 2 of course. So not the same at Supersonic but it does sound similar. And like you, I never made that connection either.
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2016 2:15:45 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing acoustically on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. Noel spoke about this in an interview printed alongside Select magazine's original review of Morning Glory. Very nice thanx The ending of that Select article is gold : "MG is great album, just not as great as the last one" WTF  I bet his colleagues printed that quote and mocked him for the last 20 years. |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 6:15:44 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing acoustically on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. Noel spoke about this in an interview printed alongside Select magazine's original review of Morning Glory. Very nice thanx The ending of that Select article is gold : "MG is great album, just not as great as the last one" WTF I bet his colleagues printed that quote and mocked him for the last 20 years. I'd say there are many people, Noelly G included, who think that Definitely Maybe is better than MG! |
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Post by headshrinker84 on May 12, 2016 6:37:39 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing acoustically on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. Noel spoke about this in an interview printed alongside Select magazine's original review of Morning Glory. Very nice thanx The ending of that Select article is gold : "MG is great album, just not as great as the last one" WTF I bet his colleagues printed that quote and mocked him for the last 20 years. He's right it's not. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 12, 2016 6:49:26 GMT -5
It caught my attention too, and a few years back I was lucky enough to put this question to producer Owen Morris.
Is the clip of Noel singing Morning Glory at the start of Acquiesce from a demo of that song, or was it specially recorded for Acquiesce?Owen Morris: "I gotta think about this. Noel played me acoustic versions of tunes like Morning Glory on the Some Might say/Acquiese session. But as far as I can remember, it was probably on a pass through the tape hone I was setting Noel up to either do his vocals or play tambourine.....and he would've sang/played that little snippet of Morning Glory as a cheeky reference, specifically to get fans like you asking about it in later years. We'd have listened back to it, laughed at it, and Noel would've said to leave it on." I'm not sure if Noel has ever spoken about this in an interview though. The snippet of Wonderwall on Hello is from when they were trying to record Noel playing acoustically on top of a wall outside Rockfield Studios. Noel spoke about this in an interview printed alongside Select magazine's original review of Morning Glory. Dynamite information per usual. You are the Three Eyed Raven of this forum.  |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 9:04:43 GMT -5
Shame no photographic evidence of the wall recording exists!
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2016 9:08:45 GMT -5
Very nice thanx The ending of that Select article is gold : "MG is great album, just not as great as the last one" WTF I bet his colleagues printed that quote and mocked him for the last 20 years. I'd say there are many people, Noelly G included, who think that Definitely Maybe is better than MG! Yeah but Noel's got shit taste, so does the people who think like him DM is a classic, but MG is a classic-er. I'd say DM comes from the gut and MG comes from a musician. two different records but MG will always better, just slightly better for me. If i had to choose one record to take on a desert island that would be this one. By the way, Noel must think MG is better since he tried to re-record it with HC. |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 9:11:17 GMT -5
I'd say there are many people, Noelly G included, who think that Definitely Maybe is better than MG! Yeah but Noel's got shit taste, so does the people who think like him DM is a classic, but MG is a classic-er. I'd say DM comes from the gut and MG comes from a musician. two different records but MG will always better, just slightly better for me. If i had to choose one record to take on a desert island that would be this one. By the way, Noel must think MG is better since he tried to re-record it with HC. I'd take gut music over musician music every time. Do you sit around all day listening to Yes bootlegs stroking your chin while admiring the solos ;-) Nah Noel thinks DM is better. That's why before EVERY album release he says "this one is the best since Definitely Maybe, honest guvnor (cough, cough)" |
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Post by andymorris on May 12, 2016 9:18:17 GMT -5
Yeah but Noel's got shit taste, so does the people who think like him DM is a classic, but MG is a classic-er. I'd say DM comes from the gut and MG comes from a musician. two different records but MG will always better, just slightly better for me. If i had to choose one record to take on a desert island that would be this one. By the way, Noel must think MG is better since he tried to re-record it with HC. I'd take gut music over musician music every time. Do you sit around all day listening to Yes bootlegs stroking your chin while admiring the solos ;-) Nah Noel thinks DM is better. That's why before EVERY album release he says "this ones the best since Definitely Maybe, honest guvnor (cough, cough)" Yes indeed, in fact i only get off to Yes. For me it depends on the mood, sometimes i want to listen to beautifully made records (that doesn't mean complicated technically), and sometimes it's more the gut. I'm glad i dont have to choose between the two. And when the two are combined on a record, it's heaven. For obvious reasons DM is widely regarded as the better record in the UK. Anyway, it's like choosing what kid you like best. |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 9:56:00 GMT -5
I'd take gut music over musician music every time. Do you sit around all day listening to Yes bootlegs stroking your chin while admiring the solos ;-) Nah Noel thinks DM is better. That's why before EVERY album release he says "this ones the best since Definitely Maybe, honest guvnor (cough, cough)" Yes indeed, in fact i only get off to Yes.  |
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 9:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 10:04:01 GMT -5
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Post by AdidasNG72 on May 12, 2016 13:26:37 GMT -5
I'd take gut music over musician music every time. Do you sit around all day listening to Yes bootlegs stroking your chin while admiring the solos ;-) Nah Noel thinks DM is better. That's why before EVERY album release he says "this ones the best since Definitely Maybe, honest guvnor (cough, cough)" Yes indeed, in fact i only get off to Yes. For me it depends on the mood, sometimes i want to listen to beautifully made records (that doesn't mean complicated technically), and sometimes it's more the gut. I'm glad i dont have to choose between the two. And when the two are combined on a record, it's heaven. For obvious reasons DM is widely regarded as the better record in the UK. Anyway, it's like choosing what kid you like best. If you are wanting music from the gut, look no further than BHN. The whole album is one long party sound, turned up to the max. I prefer BHN over both MG and DM, and prefer MG over DM. |
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Post by Aman on May 12, 2016 13:37:59 GMT -5
DM will always have the better tunes for me.
Forget gut, the quality of recordings etc.
DM simply has the better tunes on it.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2016 17:09:08 GMT -5
Yes indeed, in fact i only get off to Yes. For me it depends on the mood, sometimes i want to listen to beautifully made records (that doesn't mean complicated technically), and sometimes it's more the gut. I'm glad i dont have to choose between the two. And when the two are combined on a record, it's heaven. For obvious reasons DM is widely regarded as the better record in the UK. Anyway, it's like choosing what kid you like best. If you are wanting music from the gut, look no further than BHN. Be Here Now is music from the nose. |
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