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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2016 10:42:42 GMT -5
How many demo's are on the internet that he can possibly use? Come On Outside
Bye Bye My Family (Don't Stop The Happennin') Oh Lord She Must Be One Of Us Just Let It Come Down Over Me I expect at least one of these on his next album (he mentioned Don't Stop The Happenin') This has gotta see the light of day eventually. Was almost the lead single off DOYS!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 11:02:08 GMT -5
I frankly don't understand the "low" expectation thing here. Noel has given us zero reason to this point to expect anything short of a quality (even if a bit measured) record. His first two offerings have been fine. Certainly better than late era Oasis records.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 2, 2016 11:26:21 GMT -5
How many demo's are on the internet that he can possibly use? Come On Outside Bye Bye My Family (Don't Stop The Happennin') Oh Lord She Must Be One Of Us Just Let It Come Down Over Me I expect at least one of these on his next album (he mentioned Don't Stop The Happenin') He mentioned that, but that's not to say it will be released now, or on the album. Could end up as a B-side, be released in a decade or being scrapped altogether. He usually records a bunch of stuff and then picks the best ones (or usually what "flows" best, so it appears). Wonder what that'll be like if it's on the album.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 2, 2016 12:56:57 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is a step down from NGHFB 1, let's be honest. It's a good record, but the singles are shit and the record is a bunch of tracks that don't belong with each other. Noel needs to do two records : one fully acoustic and one fully electric, but very raw, not overproduced. Like In Yout Honor by the Foo Fighters, CD1 electric 10 songs, CD2 acoustic 10 songs yes ! although this one is a bit too long and could have been reduced to a single record, but that's the idea.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2016 13:03:22 GMT -5
I've been begging for a Nigel Godrich produced acoustic album since 2003.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 2, 2016 13:04:51 GMT -5
How many demo's are on the internet that he can possibly use? Come On Outside Bye Bye My Family (Don't Stop The Happennin') Oh Lord She Must Be One Of Us Just Let It Come Down Over Me I expect at least one of these on his next album (he mentioned Don't Stop The Happenin') The only one of those I really would want on LP3 is Just Let it Come Down Over Me. It could work as a nice interlude. As far as the record being experimental, I'm optimistic. I don't expect prog-rock or anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got noticeably fewer verse-chorus tracks and noticeably more influences and styles. Roll on the 7-minute electro-jazz freakout.
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Post by mossy on Mar 2, 2016 13:24:52 GMT -5
Personally I won't be happy unless each song on album three is a selfie photograph of Noel's balls, each taken from a slightly different angle, then fed into audacity to create random sound.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 2, 2016 13:48:23 GMT -5
I've been begging for a Nigel Godrich produced acoustic album since 2003. Please no. Godrich and Noel Gallagher's sounds wouldn't fit. I want an acoustic record ala Dylan early period, not an over the top faux acoustic record. Godrich makes acoustic guitars sound like robots : he destroyed Divine comedy's Regeneration. Something in the vain of the cover he did of This Guy's In Love With You would be good.
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Mar 2, 2016 13:52:11 GMT -5
I'll only hit the panic button if I hear Noel say it's the best thing since Definitely Maybe (like every album since BHN or maybe even every one since DM its self)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2016 14:22:27 GMT -5
I've been begging for a Nigel Godrich produced acoustic album since 2003. Please no. Godrich and Noel Gallagher's sounds wouldn't fit. I want an acoustic record ala Dylan early period, not an over the top faux acoustic record. Godrich makes acoustic guitars sound like robots : he destroyed Divine comedy's Regeneration. Something in the vain of the cover he did of This Guy's In Love With You would be good. Oh yeah is that a fact? Nigel hit home runs doing extremely fine work on acoustic albums/tracks with Beck (Sea Change), Travis (The Man Who/Invisible Band), REM (Up) and Paul McCartney (Chaos in The Backyard) so I have no worries at all. Nigel can do a bunch of different genres. Not just Kid A stuff.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 2, 2016 14:22:44 GMT -5
Can you imagine Noel starting a project with some other singer ? I'd love to hear something like that. Someone we don't know from any other band. Male or female, doesn't matter, new character. Right Stuff with that girl on backing vocals was a great shot. Or something maybe like this new Iggy Pop album written with Josh Homme, that worked great. Noel as a ghost writer. That would be it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2016 14:25:02 GMT -5
Can you imagine Noel starting a project with some other singer ? I'd love to hear something like that. Someone we don't know from any other band. Male or female, doesn't matter, new character. Right Stuff with that girl on backing vocals was a great shot. Or something maybe like this new Iggy Pop album written with Josh Homme, that worked great. Noel as a ghost writer. That would be it.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Mar 2, 2016 14:26:53 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is a step down from NGHFB 1, let's be honest. It's a good record, but the singles are shit and the record is a bunch of tracks that don't belong with each other. Noel needs to do two records : one fully acoustic and one fully electric, but very raw, not overproduced. I disagree. I never listen to any of the tracks on NGHFB anymore. The sound overall is a disappointment that doesn't elevate any of the material. I think overall the quality is pretty similar, but DOTL and WTSRTS and YNWCGB dwarf anything on the first album.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 2, 2016 14:31:34 GMT -5
Can you imagine Noel starting a project with some other singer ? I'd love to hear something like that. Someone we don't know from any other band. Male or female, doesn't matter, new character. Right Stuff with that girl on backing vocals was a great shot. Or something maybe like this new Iggy Pop album written with Josh Homme, that worked great. Noel as a ghost writer. That would be it. Any good this ? But you get my idea i think. Break the formula, get more loose. I feel like he's still wasting part of his talent by being so safe and stubborn sometimes.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 2, 2016 15:03:48 GMT -5
Please no. Godrich and Noel Gallagher's sounds wouldn't fit. I want an acoustic record ala Dylan early period, not an over the top faux acoustic record. Godrich makes acoustic guitars sound like robots : he destroyed Divine comedy's Regeneration. Something in the vain of the cover he did of This Guy's In Love With You would be good. Oh yeah is that a fact? Nigel hit home runs doing extremely fine work on acoustic albums/tracks with Beck (Sea Change), Travis (The Man Who/Invisible Band), REM (Up) and Paul McCartney (Chaos in The Backyard) so I have no worries at all. Nigel can do a bunch of different genres. Not just Kid A stuff. I just said it wouldn't fit. Noel and the Divine comedy's sound shine when underproduced, not overproduced, which has been Noel's problem for years now... Both those artists are talented enough not to hide being production. Chaos and Creation in the Backyard is a fine record, Travis records too, but they have the kinda sound that's a bit spacey, Sea change being the perfect example. they're not real acoustic records. All those records you mentionned have that same common sound, it's well produced, but it lacks spontaneity, kinda... You dont hear the pick against the wood, or the string ringing a bit too much, if you know what i mean. It's kinda of a surreal sound that fits, sometimes, but Noel needs something else... something like The beatles's white album sound. His best song of the last ten years is a frickin demo : the Importance of Being Idle. I mean, it's pretty self explanatory.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 2, 2016 16:08:17 GMT -5
I think Noel probably has more ambition than a lot of his fans judging by this thread. Different doesn't mean worse and it doesn't have to be a toss up between safe and weird.
Look at what Weller has achieved, broadening his sound without compromising what he is.
For the record I would take a different sounding record with 4 or 5 crackers on it than a 'safe' album of tunes Noel has done better 20 years ago.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 2, 2016 16:08:48 GMT -5
How many demo's are on the internet that he can possibly use? Come On Outside Bye Bye My Family (Don't Stop The Happennin') Oh Lord She Must Be One Of Us Just Let It Come Down Over Me I expect at least one of these on his next album (he mentioned Don't Stop The Happenin') Add God Help Us All and you'd have a good two EP's that can be released to coincide with the upcoming tour.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 2, 2016 16:10:53 GMT -5
How many demo's are on the internet that he can possibly use? Come On Outside Bye Bye My Family (Don't Stop The Happennin') Oh Lord She Must Be One Of Us Just Let It Come Down Over Me I expect at least one of these on his next album (he mentioned Don't Stop The Happenin') Add God Help Us All and you'd have a good two EP's that can be released to coincide with the upcoming tour. The only decent one of these imo is Come On Outside, and that one's moment passed long ago. The rest of it is pretty blah.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2016 16:14:47 GMT -5
Add God Help Us All and you'd have a good two EP's that can be released to coincide with the upcoming tour. The only decent one of these imo is Come On Outside, and that one's moment passed long ago. The rest of it is pretty blah. Oh don't quit on that tune just yet. It took 10 years for Record Machine and Stop The Clocks to emerge.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 2, 2016 16:21:30 GMT -5
I thinks it hysterically funny that nobpdy even believes him, when he said, that he is writing the songs in the studio
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 2, 2016 16:22:38 GMT -5
The only decent one of these imo is Come On Outside, and that one's moment passed long ago. The rest of it is pretty blah. Oh don't quit on that tune just yet. It took 10 years for Record Machine and Stop The Clocks to emerge. True. Lock All The Doors even took 23!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 17:19:32 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is a step down from NGHFB 1, let's be honest. It's a good record, but the singles are shit and the record is a bunch of tracks that don't belong with each other. no way. the first album might have had stronger singles, but as a whole chasing yesterday shits all over hfb's 1 in my opinion.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 2, 2016 17:45:04 GMT -5
my expectations will be,,fuckin get in a new noel lp and my excitement will be at fever pitch,,personally if he polished up 2010 demos like come out outside then so be it for me the demo is fine so release it officially on a bonus disk we all know he wont go that far out of the box so more in the vein of WTSRTS,,BOTMI,,TRS,,broken arrow,,flagwavers in the style of EBOTR but my biggest hope is the new DLBIA or masterplan or something with the same impact as supersonic
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2016 19:44:28 GMT -5
I just have this feeling that the third album is going to be a right clunker. Noel's played it safe for the first two albums. And he knows very well that he's played it safe. She Might Be One Of Us probably (hopefully) won't be on the album, but at the very least it's giving us a general idea of where Noel is going. I feel he's under pressure - whether internally and/or externally - to do something different. And when Noel feels pressure to 'experiment' we get shit like Heathen Chemistry. When Noel forces things, it goes pears shaped. For the love of God, Noel, please continue to stick to your winning formula with the few odd tracks dating back to the Oasis era thrown in for good effect.I just have this sinking feeling that the third album will flop badly, and will end his solo experiment as a result. We're due a real clunker as DBTT-DOYS-NGHFB-CY has been a damn fine run of form. I hope I'm wrong. Erm what..... Heathen Chemistry and 'experimental' go together as well as Michelle McManus and salad.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 2, 2016 21:17:02 GMT -5
What's funny is that I thought Beady's Mighty Eye was trying to be ironic with his original post.
I thought how could a person seriously write such rubbish?
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