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Post by keke on Jun 19, 2016 11:14:26 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Jun 19, 2016 12:33:25 GMT -5
Uea? As stated above I still think it's a mix of timing and the person saying it. Nobody has provided any evidence that Noel got called out for his homophobic comment in real, rather than social, media. And no one will. Which is the problem. If Liam had said this a few weeks ago we probably wouldn't have links up detailing him making a slur. It would have been contained to social media just as Noel's was. You're saying it's down to environment but in your point, ignoring the environment. You can't point toward a bunch of links in a different environment and say, well no one has provided links for Noel when the reason is precisely because his event occured in a different environment. It's a paradox. That's like me saying, well no one got on Liam for making planes crashing into building jokes before 9/11, while people are for Noel after 9/11. And no one has provided links to the contrary, therefore, it's down to the person and environment. Well no, I can't prove that it's down to the person because it's an environemt that didn't exist prior to the initial person's comments. Therefore, a paradox. So, you can keep waiting on links but they aren't going to be provided. And it's an inconclusive at best if they are not provided. We're actually in agreement here. In your original response to me you said "it's mostly to do with timing rather than the person saying it." You didn't say it's 100% to do with timing and the person has nothing to do with it at all. Hence we agree. Yes, we can't roll back time and persuade Noel to tweet something homophobic instead of Liam to compare the press reaction. But my point was only that Liam and Noel get treated differently by the press now. If you truly believe they get treated 100% equally well there's nothing more I can say. |
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Post by spud on Jun 19, 2016 17:19:13 GMT -5
It's like someone said a few pages back, can you imagine if Liam did this today... ?! There'd be absolute uproar! Jonah Hill got slagged off and had to go on a chat show to "wholeheartedly apologise" after he snapped out with "faggot!" or something, at a pap who followed him around a whole town block, taking the piss, so heaven knows what would've happened to Liam. Young Sebastian on Twitter (@sebbbbbbbz_123) would want a few words with him, no doubt! In Liam's defence though (well, sort of), the guy did say "No problem, blad!" And that's enough to rile anybody. Never mind someone with the temper Liam has. Yeah but, I bet you've used "kebab dick" a fair few times since you've seen that video. See, who said Oasis isn't educational. Learn your ABC's with Oasis, Argy-bargy, Beer and Cocaine! Kebab dick? He says 'bad dick' haha, you muppet. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Jun 20, 2016 6:01:16 GMT -5
Relevant, you stupid fuck......Thanks.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 20, 2016 7:30:00 GMT -5
In other "news"..
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 20, 2016 7:49:50 GMT -5
That article is more interesting as an indicator of what a death spiral the NME are actually in, I seriously expect them to be gone or just be an advertising funded website only in the next two to three years. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 20, 2016 10:25:47 GMT -5
"The Tweettoo Project is a work-in-progress art project that explores the powerful combination of celebrity and social media. Anyone can thoughtlessly say offensive things they regret but when you do it on the internet it will stay there forever. Like a tattoo."
That's true. But there's no need to actually get a tattoo of it is there you numpty! Artists eh!?
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 20, 2016 10:32:39 GMT -5
"The Tweettoo Project is a work-in-progress art project that explores the powerful combination of celebrity and social media. Anyone can thoughtlessly say offensive things they regret but when you do it on the internet it will stay there forever. Like a tattoo." That's true. But there's no need to actually get a tattoo of it is there you numpty! Artists eh!? Also it isn't forever is it lad? The artist will eventually die and the tattoo will decompose, and the internet may well be around for a long time but based on finite resources I won't bet forever  Pedantics eh?!  |
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Post by mossy on Jun 20, 2016 10:40:46 GMT -5
"The Tweettoo Project is a work-in-progress art project that explores the powerful combination of celebrity and social media. Anyone can thoughtlessly say offensive things they regret but when you do it on the internet it will stay there forever. Like a tattoo." That's true. But there's no need to actually get a tattoo of it is there you numpty! Artists eh!? Also it isn't forever is it lad? The artist will eventually die and the tattoo will decompose, and the internet may well be around for a long time but based on finite resources I won't bet forever Pedantics eh?! I think being a self-centred artist who gets stupid tattoos for attention, he defines forever as the length of his own life. Pop psychologists eh!? ;-) |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jun 20, 2016 10:54:19 GMT -5
"The Tweettoo Project is a work-in-progress art project that explores the powerful combination of celebrity and social media. Anyone can thoughtlessly say offensive things they regret but when you do it on the internet it will stay there forever. Like a tattoo." That's true. But there's no need to actually get a tattoo of it is there you numpty! Artists eh!? Also it isn't forever is it lad? The artist will eventually die and the tattoo will decompose, and the internet may well be around for a long time but based on finite resources I won't bet forever Pedantics eh?! It's fine. Damien Hirst will embalm his cadaver when he finally leaves the twatosphere. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 13:33:37 GMT -5
but.....the thing is...its not his tweet so hes now baring the foolish words of SOMEONE ELSE...forever....well your choice bruv.
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Post by mossy on Jun 20, 2016 16:23:14 GMT -5
but.....the thing is...its not his tweet so hes now baring the foolish words of SOMEONE ELSE...forever....well your choice bruv. BUT IT'S ART! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 16:38:52 GMT -5
but.....the thing is...its not his tweet so hes now baring the foolish words of SOMEONE ELSE...forever....well your choice bruv. BUT IT'S ART! so is this apparently, its pure bullshit.  |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jun 21, 2016 4:28:00 GMT -5
so is this apparently, its pure bullshit. He should not be allowed to wear a bag in an art gallery anyway. I've got lynched last time I did this. obsessive times, where a nonsensical tweet of this man gets recycled and turned into art! |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 21, 2016 6:56:46 GMT -5
so is this apparently, its pure bullshit. He should not be allowed to wear a bag in an art gallery anyway. I've got lynched last time I did this. obsessive times, where a nonsensical tweet of this man gets recycled and turned into art! Don't wear them myself, but why would one get lynched for wearing a bag?! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 7:40:58 GMT -5
As someone with a degree and career in art I have to say that most peoples definition of "what is art" is very limited and shortsighted. While I'm not a fan of the blank canvases shown above (the artist actually painted them to appear blank), there is much more going on then simply what you see in front of you. The struggle with art is that it can be difficult to know or understand where the artist was coming from when making something.
Blah, blah, blah... rant over. Watch the video.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jun 21, 2016 7:46:45 GMT -5
As someone with a degree and career in art I have to say that most peoples definition of "what is art" is very limited and shortsighted. While I'm not a fan of the blank canvases shown above (the artist actually painted them to appear blank), there is much more going on then simply what you see in front of you. The struggle with art is that it can be difficult to know or understand where the artist was coming from when making something. Blah, blah, blah... rant over. Watch the video.  |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jun 21, 2016 10:50:07 GMT -5
so is this apparently, its pure bullshit. He should not be allowed to wear a bag in an art gallery anyway. I've got lynched last time I did this. obsessive times, where a nonsensical tweet of this man gets recycled and turned into art! Maybe the security guard thought that I'm going to carry suspicious items into the gallery (maybe not a bomb or a gun, but eventually foul eggs etcetera) The bag got tossed, I got an instruction that made a great stir. That was the "Death and Disaster Exhibition" by Warhol a couple of years ago. guigsysEstring |
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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2016 17:33:12 GMT -5
I do love art galleries - I was in the National Art Gallery off Trafalgar Square last week but I can't be doing with modern art sorry. I'm probably too caught up with the fact that it's the 'Grim Up North London' folk who love it - hipsters and bohemians what have you. Grim indeed!
I just don't get an emotional connection to it, neither am I inspired or in awe of the craft of modern art. Cold, emotionless and just seemingly lacking the effort and craft of genuine portrait/landscape artists.
I'll tell you, if I grew a twirly moustache, walked into the Tate Modern and smashed a glass bottle of Coca Cola on the floor, put a rope around it and stated it portrayed my vehement stance against globalisation, I'd probably end up winning the Turner Prize!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jun 21, 2016 18:04:37 GMT -5
As someone with a degree and career in art I have to say that most peoples definition of "what is art" is very limited and shortsighted. While I'm not a fan of the blank canvases shown above ( the artist actually painted them to appear blank), there is much more going on then simply what you see in front of you. The struggle with art is that it can be difficult to know or understand where the artist was coming from when making something. Blah, blah, blah... rant over. Watch the video. And a damn fine job he did, too! Should've got my mate's dad, Dave in though - he's bloody brilliant at whitewashing things. He did our kitchen. And I'm sorry, I didn't watch the video. Not all the way through, anyway. The self-conceited nasal whine of that woman's voice just went right through me. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 21, 2016 23:23:33 GMT -5
I do love art galleries - I was in the National Art Gallery off Trafalgar Square last week but I can't be doing with modern art sorry. I'm probably too caught up with the fact that it's the 'Grim Up North London' folk who love it - hipsters and bohemians what have you. Grim indeed! I just don't get an emotional connection to it, neither am I inspired or in awe of the craft of modern art. Cold, emotionless and just seemingly lacking the effort and craft of genuine portrait/landscape artists. I'll tell you, if I grew a twirly moustache, walked into the Tate Modern and smashed a glass bottle of Coca Cola on the floor, put a rope around it and stated it portrayed my vehement stance against globalisation, I'd probably end up winning the Turner Prize! When I went to the Tate Modern, I was back outside in less than 10 minutes. |
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jun 22, 2016 2:59:10 GMT -5
Modern Art I enjoy:
Romanticism
Realism
Impresionism
Dada
Expressionism
Figurative art
Pop Art
Bassically most of modern art after the second world war is beyond my interest.
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Post by andymorris on Jun 22, 2016 5:38:17 GMT -5
As someone with a degree and career in art I have to say that most peoples definition of "what is art" is very limited and shortsighted. While I'm not a fan of the blank canvases shown above (the artist actually painted them to appear blank), there is much more going on then simply what you see in front of you. The struggle with art is that it can be difficult to know or understand where the artist was coming from when making something. Blah, blah, blah... rant over. Watch the video. Dude, with all the respect for you and your career, most of the "contemporary art" is bullshit, that whole video is so patronising it's unbelievable. But it reflects the society, it's all about appearance over content. you just cant compare three blank paintings with the stunning paintings made 100 years ago or so. I'm not saying simple is not art though, simplicity can be art. A song with just three chords can change the world, for instance. that "painting" seems mysterious and all but the guy probably thought "hey, i'm gonna just do nothing, call it art, and people will respect me for that. That's how stupid they are". Art is difficult to define, but sometimes it's hard to call something art just because some vaginas vomited on a piece of paper, and letting people decide what it means. Most of the time, it means absolutely... nothing. It's in a museum because some vagina running the museum thought of it as art, not because it is art. A piece becomes art because people value it as art, not because of what it is. Painters, sculptors, photographers and basically anything that's in museum like to disappear in their own ass anyway. I prefer music or literature. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 22, 2016 7:26:20 GMT -5
How many Noel Gallaghers we have after Noel Gallagher? 0
How many Don't Look Back In Angers we have after DLBIA? 0
But we have millions of some alternative shit, everybody is fucking alternative and avant-garde but they don't know how to make simple 3 chord song.
Write Yesterday(altough I am not big fan) and then write Sgt. Pepper album and experiment.
They all want to make some ,,new'' music, to be alternative and to write something that was never heard before but they are not able to write Little James.
Same thing is with paintings. If they knew how to paint like Rembrandt, they will paint like him. But they can't so know they are alternative and avant-garde.
Like in music, I have to trust artist. If i know that you are good songwriter I am ready to hear your alternative stuff. If you can paint classical painting, I am ready to see your modern work and think about and look for the meaning behind.
But I don't have time for all this bullshit today. Talent is something that is rare. If you play basketball and you can shoot 100 times for 3pts and score 90 times, then you are talented. But if everyone can do that, you are not talented. Same is with this. Like I've said, there is no new Noel after Noel but there are million of this modern painters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 7:26:22 GMT -5
As someone with a degree and career in art I have to say that most peoples definition of "what is art" is very limited and shortsighted. While I'm not a fan of the blank canvases shown above (the artist actually painted them to appear blank), there is much more going on then simply what you see in front of you. The struggle with art is that it can be difficult to know or understand where the artist was coming from when making something. Blah, blah, blah... rant over. Watch the video. Dude, with all the respect for you and your career, most of the "contemporary art" is bullshit, that whole video is so patronising it's unbelievable. But it reflects the society, it's all about appearance over content.you just cant compare three blank paintings with the stunning paintings made 100 years ago or so. I'm not saying simple is not art though, simplicity can be art. A song with just three chords can change the world, for instance. that "painting" seems mysterious and all but the guy probably thought "hey, i'm gonna just do nothing, call it art, and people will respect me for that. That's how stupid they are". Art is difficult to define, but sometimes it's hard to call something art just because some vaginas vomited on a piece of paper, and letting people decide what it means. Most of the time, it means absolutely... nothing. It's in a museum because some vagina running the museum thought of it as art, not because it is art. A piece becomes art because people value it as art, not because of what it is. Painters, sculptors, photographers and basically anything that's in museum like to disappear in their own ass anyway. I prefer music or literature. If this is what you took from that, then I think you got it backwards. Art is a VERY subjective thing... to each their own. |
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