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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 10, 2017 15:21:14 GMT -5
The Beach Boys - Smiley Smile/SMiLE mash-up: Side one: 1. Heroes And Villains 2. Vega-Tables 3. Wonderful [The SMiLE Sessions version] 4. She's Goin' Bald 5. Gettin' Hungry 6. Wind Chimes [Smiley Smile version] 7. My Only Sunshine Side two: 1. Good Vibrations 2. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter 3. Cabin Essence 4. Little Pad 5. Love To Say Dada 6. Surf's Up 7. Whistle In Have you seen this fan mix of SMiLE? It's definitely the best one that I've come across, and certainly better than the overlong "official" version that we got on The SMiLE Sessions. |
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Post by My Big Name on Feb 10, 2017 16:17:44 GMT -5
The White Album is my favourite Beatles album.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 11, 2017 3:04:34 GMT -5
Have you seen this fan mix of SMiLE? It's definitely the best one that I've come across, and certainly better than the overlong "official" version that we got on The SMiLE Sessions. So I've listened to it. Wow! I think you're right, it is better then The SMiLE Sessions, it actually feels like an album rather than, you know, sessions put together in a kind of coherent album. There are still a few pieces of music I miss that the guy didn't use, but overall I loved it. I also like the fact that he chose the alternate version of Heroes And Villains, because I actually prefer it. Thanks for making me discover this man. Glad you like it!  I also prefer the alternate Heroes and Villains. The fact that it's shorter always made it seem punchier and more focused, rather than like it was trying to cram everything in. Which is the same reason that this fan mix is superior to The SMiLE sessions, innit?  Plus I hate the "bicycle rider" chorus when it's used in Heroes and Villains. Just kills all of the song's momentum. Works a lot better in Do You Like Worms imo! And to answer your question about SMiLE fan mixes, I actually don't know too much about them myself (  ) but I do happen to know that personalized SMiLE mixes started becoming popular in the late 80's and early 90's once session tapes started leaking out on bootlegs and CD-R's became widely available! My personal beef with The SMiLE Sessions is that it follows the order of Brian Wilson Present SMiLE a bit too faithfully and doesn't try to present SMiLE as it would've been released in 1967. I mean, Pet Sounds isn't divided into three movements and isn't 50 minutes long, so why should SMiLE be any different? And the other thing that always irked me about The SMiLE Sessions is that it didn't end with Surf's Up. Surf's Up is the clear closer to any album it appears on, not Good Vibrations.  But regardless, The SMiLE Sessions did give us complete versions of the SMiLE songs that we didn't have before (or at least as complete as they're ever gonna get), so I'm still thankful for that! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2017 5:02:58 GMT -5
I like the order of the Smile Sessions until Surf's Up. The songs in the third movement seem a bit out of place, but I wouldn't know where else to put them. I'm so used to that tracklist.
Smiley Smile is such a different album than what Smile was supposed to be, such different recording techniques and instrumentation (except Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations of course), that I could never mash up the two of them.
Also, about BWPS..I like how the songs are finished and all, but how could I ever prefer that album above one with the real Beach Boys vocals, even though the songs were unfinished?
What's interesting is that most of the songs had been available in one form or another before the Smile sessions came out. Of course we had had the singles of both Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations. Then there was Wind Chimes, Vegetables and Wonderful on Smiley Smile, although 2 of them sound completely different. Fall Breaks and back to winter of course has Mrs. O' Leary's Cow's vocals, She's Goin' Bald is basically He Gives Speeches (a Smile outtake), With Me Tonight is a Smile outtake, Little Pad is rumoured to be a reworked Smile song, Mama Says on Wild Honey of course is a piece of Vegetables, Our Prayer and Cabinessence on 20/20 were supposed to be on Smile of course, Do It Again has the Workshop bit at the end. Cool Cool Water on Sunflower is a reworked Love to say Da Da and Surf's Up is..well, Surf's Up.
Plus Brian loved to re-use bits of sonfs on other songs.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 11, 2017 5:53:43 GMT -5
It's not my video, but marvelous Mr. Harcourt from last night.
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Post by arthurmorgan on Feb 11, 2017 6:32:05 GMT -5
I like the order of the Smile Sessions until Surf's Up. The songs in the third movement seem a bit out of place, but I wouldn't know where else to put them. I'm so used to that tracklist. Smiley Smile is such a different album than what Smile was supposed to be, such different recording techniques and instrumentation (except Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations of course), that I could never mash up the two of them. Also, about BWPS..I like how the songs are finished and all, but how could I ever prefer that album above one with the real Beach Boys vocals, even though the songs were unfinished? What's interesting is that most of the songs had been available in one form or another before the Smile sessions came out. Of course we had had the singles of both Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations. Then there was Wind Chimes, Vegetables and Wonderful on Smiley Smile, although 2 of them sound completely different. Fall Breaks and back to winter of course has Mrs. O' Leary's Cow's vocals, She's Goin' Bald is basically He Gives Speeches (a Smile outtake), With Me Tonight is a Smile outtake, Little Pad is rumoured to be a reworked Smile song, Mama Says on Wild Honey of course is a piece of Vegetables, Our Prayer and Cabinessence on 20/20 were supposed to be on Smile of course, Do It Again has the Workshop bit at the end. Cool Cool Water on Sunflower is a reworked Love to say Da Da and Surf's Up is..well, Surf's Up. Plus Brian loved to re-use bits of sonfs on other songs. I can sort of appreciate Smiley Smile because it developed a legacy of its own but I think Brian should have released the unfinished Smile album instead. It's mad to think that songs like Surf's Up or Cabin Essence remained unreleased at first. |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Feb 11, 2017 6:37:22 GMT -5
Classic  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2017 6:42:03 GMT -5
I like the order of the Smile Sessions until Surf's Up. The songs in the third movement seem a bit out of place, but I wouldn't know where else to put them. I'm so used to that tracklist. Smiley Smile is such a different album than what Smile was supposed to be, such different recording techniques and instrumentation (except Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations of course), that I could never mash up the two of them. Also, about BWPS..I like how the songs are finished and all, but how could I ever prefer that album above one with the real Beach Boys vocals, even though the songs were unfinished? What's interesting is that most of the songs had been available in one form or another before the Smile sessions came out. Of course we had had the singles of both Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations. Then there was Wind Chimes, Vegetables and Wonderful on Smiley Smile, although 2 of them sound completely different. Fall Breaks and back to winter of course has Mrs. O' Leary's Cow's vocals, She's Goin' Bald is basically He Gives Speeches (a Smile outtake), With Me Tonight is a Smile outtake, Little Pad is rumoured to be a reworked Smile song, Mama Says on Wild Honey of course is a piece of Vegetables, Our Prayer and Cabinessence on 20/20 were supposed to be on Smile of course, Do It Again has the Workshop bit at the end. Cool Cool Water on Sunflower is a reworked Love to say Da Da and Surf's Up is..well, Surf's Up. Plus Brian loved to re-use bits of sonfs on other songs. I can sort of appreciate Smiley Smile because it developed a legacy of its own but I think Brian should have released the unfinished Smile album instead. It's mad to think that songs like Surf's Up or Cabin Essence remained unreleased at first. It took a lot of convincing to release those songs, especially Surf's Up, alledgedly. It's crazy! |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Feb 11, 2017 7:14:51 GMT -5
I can sort of appreciate Smiley Smile because it developed a legacy of its own but I think Brian should have released the unfinished Smile album instead. It's mad to think that songs like Surf's Up or Cabin Essence remained unreleased at first. In a way, I'm kind of thankful that things happened the way they did, that SMiLE got cancelled and all (of course Brian's meltdown at the time is awful and I'm not thankful for that). Because we got Smiley Smile, which in my opinion is a great album, one of my favorite. And most of the songs from SMiLE were released in the following years anyway and we got The SMiLE Sessions. That's true it's still a great album and Brian's meltdown probably would have happened anyway at one point. I just think it's sad that The Beach Boys albums that came after Smiley Smile got so little attention. Take Holland or Sunflower for example: Great albums but they were made by a band that wasn't relevant anymore. Things could have worked out better for them if Smiley Smile had those (at the time) unreleased great songs |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2017 7:38:15 GMT -5
In a way, I'm kind of thankful that things happened the way they did, that SMiLE got cancelled and all (of course Brian's meltdown at the time is awful and I'm not thankful for that). Because we got Smiley Smile, which in my opinion is a great album, one of my favorite. And most of the songs from SMiLE were released in the following years anyway and we got The SMiLE Sessions. That's true it's still a great album and Brian's meltdown probably would have happened anyway at one point. I just think it's sad that The Beach Boys albums that came after Smiley Smile got so little attention. Take Holland or Sunflower for example: Great albums but they were made by a band that wasn't relevant anymore. Things could have worked out better for them if Smiley Smile had those (at the time) unreleased great songs It's a combination of things really. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 14:48:39 GMT -5
George Harrison is becoming my favourite Beatle.
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Post by carlober on Feb 11, 2017 15:16:24 GMT -5
A pretty lovely Coldplay impression, with some U2-esque guitars. Nice little tune.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Feb 12, 2017 4:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Feb 12, 2017 6:19:41 GMT -5
A pretty lovely Coldplay impression, with some U2-esque guitars. Nice little tune. Listening to IV now, there's a pill for every hour......... |
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Post by carlober on Feb 12, 2017 16:28:27 GMT -5
The second best Wonderwall "rip-off" ever made (the first one being of course DYKWIM ). |
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 12, 2017 18:31:07 GMT -5
The second best Wonderwall "rip-off" ever made (the first one being of course DYKWIM ). I never felt like DYKWIM was a Wonderwal ripoff at all. They do use intro and verse chords as close to identical as possible but the songs they make are so completely different. Wonderwall is an expression of vulnerability and DYKWIM is about vindication and feeling invincible. Like using very similar colours to paint two paintings with completely opposing messages. I love DYKWIM even more for the fact that it uses the same chords for that reason. But Writing to Reach you is definitely a fantastic song. Fran Healy tells a funny story about borrowing the chords to write the song. |
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Post by World71R on Feb 12, 2017 20:23:27 GMT -5
I'm still baffled by how Coldplay went from making stuff like this: and this: to fucking shit like this: and this (along with X Marks the Spot  ): ...from one album to the next one and in just a single year. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 13, 2017 4:34:31 GMT -5
The second best Wonderwall "rip-off" ever made (the first one being of course DYKWIM ). I never felt like DYKWIM was a Wonderwal ripoff at all. They do use intro and verse chords as close to identical as possible but the songs they make are so completely different. Wonderwall is an expression of vulnerability and DYKWIM is about vindication and feeling invincible. Like using very similar colours to paint two paintings with completely opposing messages. I love DYKWIM even more for the fact that it uses the same chords for that reason. But Writing to Reach you is definitely a fantastic song. Fran Healy tells a funny story about borrowing the chords to write the song. Yeah, I totally agree. I was just being tongue in cheek  |
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Post by carlober on Feb 13, 2017 5:08:56 GMT -5
On another note: I understand that the Grammys are for the most part a joke, and that the nominations for various categories are often embarrassing, but seriously...
How the hell did Adele manage to win every category she was nominated in?
She won: album of the year, record of the year, song of the year, best pop vocal album and best pop solo performance.
I don't even hate her, I just find her work completely unoriginal, middle-of-the-road and uninspiring. I genuinely can't understand why this kind of music can achieve such a huge success, both commercially and critically.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Feb 13, 2017 6:58:34 GMT -5
I also know that the Grammy's are a joke, but at least get the damn bands right. Megadeth got (butchered) Metallica's Master of Puppets
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2017 14:28:35 GMT -5
As it has been said so often, The White Album is called "The Beatles" but a total misnomer it is since each song sounds like Lennon with a backing band. McCartney with a backing band. Harrison with a backing band. Beatles in name only folks. So having that been said, let's see what this album looks like if you make it a "John" solo album. Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
I'm So Tired
Yer Blues
Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey
Sexy Sadie
Revolution 1
Cry Baby Cry
JuliaLead single would be " Revolution" fast version. Pretty bitching and electric mix of tunes on this "John" solo effort. Would have loved for John to be this loose and wild in his real solo career. Very polarizing as is. |
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Post by My Big Name on Feb 13, 2017 14:47:04 GMT -5
As it has been said so often, The White Album is called "The Beatles" but a total misnomer it is since each song sounds like Lennon with a backing band. McCartney with a backing band. Harrison with a backing band. Beatles in name only folks. So having that been said, let's see what this album looks like if you make it a "John" solo album. Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
I'm So Tired
Yer Blues
Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey
Sexy Sadie
Revolution 1
Cry Baby Cry
JuliaLead single would be " Revolution" fast version. Pretty bitching and electric mix of tunes on this "John" solo effort. Would have loved for John to be this loose and wild in his real solo career. Very polarizing as is. Technically you could add 'Revolution 9' as John was the driving force behind the entire 'song'. Not that it would really make much difference to the album anyway. Also, 'The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill' is one of my least favourite Beatles songs, what it's doing on the album I don't know. Complete and utter filler, and bad filler at that. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2017 15:49:46 GMT -5
As it has been said so often, The White Album is called "The Beatles" but a total misnomer it is since each song sounds like Lennon with a backing band. McCartney with a backing band. Harrison with a backing band. Beatles in name only folks. So having that been said, let's see what this album looks like if you make it a "John" solo album. Dear Prudence
Glass Onion
The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
I'm So Tired
Yer Blues
Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey
Sexy Sadie
Revolution 1
Cry Baby Cry
JuliaLead single would be " Revolution" fast version. Pretty bitching and electric mix of tunes on this "John" solo effort. Would have loved for John to be this loose and wild in his real solo career. Very polarizing as is. Technically you could add 'Revolution 9' as John was the driving force behind the entire 'song'. Not that it would really make much difference to the album anyway. Also, 'The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill' is one of my least favourite Beatles songs, what it's doing on the album I don't know. Complete and utter filler, and bad filler at that. Revolution 9 is an exclusive Tower Records bonus vinyl. I like how weird and quirky "Bill" is and would gladly take it over "Honey Pie", "Wild Honey Pie", "Mothers Natures Son". |
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 13, 2017 16:07:36 GMT -5
Speaking of the white album...
(the Pixies cover of Wild Honey Pie)
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Post by My Big Name on Feb 13, 2017 16:14:55 GMT -5
Technically you could add 'Revolution 9' as John was the driving force behind the entire 'song'. Not that it would really make much difference to the album anyway. Also, 'The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill' is one of my least favourite Beatles songs, what it's doing on the album I don't know. Complete and utter filler, and bad filler at that. Revolution 9 is an exclusive Tower Records bonus vinyl. I like how weird and quirky "Bill" is and would gladly take it over "Honey Pie", "Wild Honey Pie", "Mothers Natures Son". So you're saying Lennon didn't produce the song? I've always heard he did  In comparison to other songs of its kind (Maxwell's Silver Hamer, Being For the Benefit of Mr Kite!) I find TCSOBB to be really dull and annoying instead of catchy and upbeat like I'm sure it's supposed to be. Wild Honey Pie isn't really a song, more of an interlude than anything, so I think it's quite an unfair comparison to make. as for the other two songs you mentioned, I fairly like both of them so I can't say I wouldn't take them over TCSOBB. |
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Plus I hate the "bicycle rider" chorus when it's used in Heroes and Villains. Just kills all of the song's momentum. Works a lot better in Do You Like Worms imo!
But regardless, The SMiLE Sessions did give us complete versions of the SMiLE songs that we didn't have before (or at least as complete as they're ever gonna get), so I'm still thankful for that! 
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