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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 7, 2016 11:13:15 GMT -5
Awesome Bowie and Bolan pic, lubeck ! Thanks. It is, innit ? I was looking for a Macca/Lennon pic but thought why not a little pic of the 2 kings of glam rock together, while they were at their respective peaks ? I mean you can't get that much better that Bowie and Bolan sharing the same stage. Indeed. To think though, a couple of weeks after this picture was taken, Bolan was dead... And they were thinking of collaborating, around that time, as well... Just imagine that, a Bolan just beginning to find his feet again, and a Berlin-era Bowie, at the height of his creativity... Yes please!  ...  ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 11:55:23 GMT -5
I've seen the Last shadow puppets a couple of days ago at a festival in France. The gig was reeeeaally great. They covered Bowie's Moonage daydream again which was special to me. And as I said before, Alex Turner's "transformation" has been irritating me for a couple of years now. The gig was probably one of the funniest I've ever been to just because of his performance. During the concert I was convinced that he cannot possibly mean it and that it must be some kind of overdoing it in a humourous sense. It's either that and he's simply having a huge laugh or he's on drugs. I watched some recent interviews with him and Miles and they are also totally weird and Alex is shaking sometimes so that it really seems like he's on some kind of illegal substance there. I just hope he's being careful enough to not waste his enormous talent. I also bought tickets for their gig in Berlin in August. Anyone else going? When I saw Arctic Monkeys Alex was constantly focused on his hair, putting grease in it, combing it and all. Also shaking his hips a lot. All the time I was thinking "He's kidding right? This must be some sort of joke" it annoys me that his fans say "hes becoming a unique frontman" but he just looks ridiculous the music is fine and is probably the most important thing but he distracts from it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 19:06:57 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 7, 2016 19:21:55 GMT -5
DEFINITELY RUBBISH:
1. Rock 'n' Roll Star
2. Advert
3. Live Forever
4. Pressure on Julian
5. Columbia
6. Star Shaped
7. Supersonic
8. Chemical World
9. Bring It On Down
10. Oily Water
11. Slide Away
12. Commercial Break
(WHAT'S THE STORY) PARKLIFE GLORY?:
1. Girls & Boys
2. Wonderwall
3. Parklife
4. Don't Look Back in Anger
5. To the End
6. Bonehead's Bank Holiday
7. Trouble in the Message Centre
8. Cast No Shadow
9. Clover Over Dover
10. She's Electric
11. This Is a Low
12. Champagne Supernova
13. Lot 105
THE GREAT HERE NOW:
1. D'You Know What I Mean?
2. Country House
3. Stand by Me
4. Charmless Man
5. The Girl in the Dirty Shirt
6. Mr. Robinson's Quango
7. Don't Go Away
8. He Thought of Cars
9. Be Here Now
10. The Universal
11. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)
12. Ernold Same (instrumental)
STANDING ON THE SHOULDER OF 13 GIANTS:
1. Tender
2. Go Let It Out
3. Coffee & TV
4. Sunday Morning Call
5. 1992
6. Gas Panic
7. Battle
8. Where Did It All Go Wrong
9. Caramel
10. Cigarettes in Hell
11. No Distance Left to Run
12. Roll It Over
13. Optigan 1
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 7, 2016 19:33:34 GMT -5
DEFINITELY RUBBISH: 1. Rock 'n' Roll Star 2. Advert 3. Live Forever 4. Pressure on Julian 5. Columbia 6. Star Shaped 7. Supersonic 8. Chemical World 9. Bring It On Down 10. Oily Water 11. Slide Away 12. Commercial Break (WHAT'S THE STORY) PARKLIFE GLORY?: 1. Girls & Boys 2. Wonderwall 3. Parklife 4. Don't Look Back in Anger 5. To the End 6. Bonehead's Bank Holiday 7. Trouble in the Message Centre 8. Cast No Shadow 9. Clover Over Dover 10. She's Electric 11. This Is a Low 12. Champagne Supernova 13. Lot 105 THE GREAT HERE NOW: 1. D'You Know What I Mean? 2. Country House 3. Stand by Me 4. Charmless Man 5. The Girl in the Dirty Shirt 6. Mr. Robinson's Quango 7. Don't Go Away 8. He Thought of Cars 9. Be Here Now 10. The Universal 11. It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) 12. Ernold Same (instrumental) STANDING ON THE SHOULDER OF 13 GIANTS: 1. Tender 2. Go Let It Out 3. Coffee & TV 4. Sunday Morning Call 5. 1992 6. Gas Panic 7. Battle 8. Where Did It All Go Wrong 9. Caramel 10. Cigarettes in Hell 11. No Distance Left to Run 12. Roll It Over 13. Optigan 1   |
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 8, 2016 4:37:11 GMT -5
Will get the remastered Allegiance CD if the liner notes aren't Haugy rambling on and on (I hate rambling)
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 8, 2016 5:24:20 GMT -5
I went to see Damien Rice last night, finally! I had my ticket for his gig at HMH nearly 10 years ago, but I couldn't make it. He played in the Royal Palace Garden last night. When he started, sun was still up and sun went down at the time when he started to play "The Blower's Daughter".
I'm so so happy that I finally got to see him. It was one of the most beautiful gigs I've ever been to.
He was really talkable which surprised us nicely. He even told about his last Amsterdam gig in Carre which he didn't speak any word ("I was angry"). He told us the story of songs, made jokes and made us smile. He looked very comfortable. Thank you Damien and thank you music. It was a very special night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 6:07:15 GMT -5
People always go about Coldplay being sell outs and all. I do agree. But I think Muse is up there, aswell. Horrendous band, the last albums, especially.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 8:21:54 GMT -5
People always go about Coldplay being sellouys and all. I do agree. But I think Muse is up there, aswell. Horrendous band, the last albums, especially. The idea of being a "sell out" seems ridiculous to me. Bands are in it to make a living, right? Is not the point to "sell out" venues, shirts, albums, key chains, etc.? It's completely unreasonable to think that a band that finds any kind of success will not change to some extent. To your point though, I can't stand Muse, so I'm good with you taking a run at them. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 8, 2016 8:30:08 GMT -5
I agree. What's often meant with sell out though, is how bands change their sound to be more generic and commercial, thus to connect to a larger audience. The term "sell out" just isn't right for it's description.
That's why I don't mind it when artists say they're doing it for the money. Yes, you're doing it for the money, we all work for money.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 8, 2016 8:48:00 GMT -5
I agree. What's often meant with sell out though, is how bands change their sound to be more generic and commercial, thus to connect to a larger audience. The term "sell out" just isn't right for it's description. That's why I don't mind it when artists say they're doing it for the money. Yes, you're doing it for the money, we all work for money. I liked Joe Strummer's take on it when asked what constitutes selling out, to which he replied "If we put a certain number of tickets up for a show and they all get sold, then we have sold out" Joe Perry from Aerosmith was another when asked about if he had sold out by playing 1990's ballads he hated because they sold records and tours, he replied maybe he had but then again if he was purely a musical artist he would be in Boston coffee houses as an unknown with an acoustic guitar. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 8:52:15 GMT -5
People always go about Coldplay being sellouys and all. I do agree. But I think Muse is up there, aswell. Horrendous band, the last albums, especially. The idea of being a "sell out" seems ridiculous to me. Bands are in it to make a living, right? Is not the point to "sell out" venues, shirts, albums, key chains, etc.? It's completely unreasonable to think that a band that finds any kind of success will not change to some extent. To your point though, I can't stand Muse, so I'm good with you taking a run at them. Sell out probably isn't the right term. Maybe "artistic resignation" would fit better. What I meant by "sell out" is a band that forget what they're all about. For example, someone like Martin who once said his inspirations were Radiohead, Jeff Buckley, Travis, Oasis, etc, now shares the stage with Beyonce and Bruno Mars... I have absolutely no problem with bands doing it for the money (or for the fame or to bang) or becoming bigger and bigger. The problem is when the band loses notion of what's matter: the music. The example I love to take is the Stones. Thy were the biggest band in the world (with Led Zepp) when Sticky Fingers came oit. But that doesn't take away the fact they were the best and that Sticky was their best album. The 80's stuff they made, they were still pretty popular but the musical quality went (obviously) downhill. |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 8, 2016 9:10:50 GMT -5
Listened to The Bends and OK Computer yesterday for the first time in years,
I loved both anyway but they were soooo much better than I remembered,
Rekindled my love for Radiohead
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Post by sufuking perbley on Jul 8, 2016 9:17:34 GMT -5
The idea of being a "sell out" seems ridiculous to me. Bands are in it to make a living, right? Is not the point to "sell out" venues, shirts, albums, key chains, etc.? It's completely unreasonable to think that a band that finds any kind of success will not change to some extent. To your point though, I can't stand Muse, so I'm good with you taking a run at them. While I do agree with that artists are supposed to be selling shit as much as possible, some have really underhanded ways of getting money. For example, 30 Seconds To Mars were at the beginning a very down to earth kind of band. They sold a bunch of records, sold out avenues, the whole shebang. Then the fans turned into more of a cult than a fanbase (I mean, Church of Mars, what the heck), which was constantly perpetuated by the band itself, it's the reason why I completely pulled away from the band, it was all too hinky to me. But then, they went even further by selling these outrageous vip packages and virtual experiences, glorified 3 day camping trips for 2299 dollars (which I gotta pays my rent for 10 months) and who knows what else. "Buy this for 45456467466 moneys and Jared Leto just might call you up on Skype". I mean, they are getting so much money, it's honestly really starting to look like a fucking cult, complete with cash fraud. The worst thing is the music went to shit! That's what I call a sell out. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2016 9:30:52 GMT -5
The idea of being a "sell out" seems ridiculous to me. Bands are in it to make a living, right? Is not the point to "sell out" venues, shirts, albums, key chains, etc.? It's completely unreasonable to think that a band that finds any kind of success will not change to some extent. To your point though, I can't stand Muse, so I'm good with you taking a run at them. While I do agree with that artists are supposed to be selling shit as much as possible, some have really underhanded ways of getting money. For example, 30 Seconds To Mars were at the beginning a very down to earth kind of band. They sold a bunch of records, sold out avenues, the whole shebang. Then the fans turned into more of a cult than a fanbase (I mean, Church of Mars, what the heck), which was constantly perpetuated by the band itself, it's the reason why I completely pulled away from the band, it was all too hinky to me. But then, they went even further by selling these outrageous vip packages and virtual experiences, glorified 3 day camping trips for 2299 dollars (which I gotta pays my rent for 10 months) and who knows what else. "Buy this for 45456467466 moneys and Jared Leto just might call you up on Skype". I mean, they are getting so much money, it's honestly really starting to look like a fucking cult, complete with cash fraud. The worst thing is the music went to shit! That's what I call a sell out. I saw them live before they were anybody. They played the second stage at a second rate music festival headlined by POD back in 2002 in Houston. They were literally giving away 2 track enhanced CD's trying to drum up some love. I've never really gotten into them my self. |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Jul 8, 2016 10:02:36 GMT -5
I saw them live before they were anybody. They played the second stage at a second rate music festival headlined by POD back in 2002 in Houston. They were literally giving away 2 track enhanced CD's trying to drum up some love. I've never really gotten into them my self. Well, like I said, they were amazing to the fans before. I saw them live too, some 5 years ago, it was quite emotional because it was kinda Tomo's homecoming, since he's Croatian. Sadly that's when they took the turn for the worse :C |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 8, 2016 10:07:41 GMT -5
Listened to The Bends and OK Computer yesterday for the first time in years, I loved both anyway but they were soooo much better than I remembered, Rekindled my love for Radiohead |
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Post by webm@ster on Jul 8, 2016 12:19:13 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 8, 2016 12:35:04 GMT -5
I agree. What's often meant with sell out though, is how bands change their sound to be more generic and commercial, thus to connect to a larger audience. The term "sell out" just isn't right for it's description. That's why I don't mind it when artists say they're doing it for the money. Yes, you're doing it for the money, we all work for money. A prime example for me are The Kings of Leon. Their debut alarm and sophomore effort were dirty and gritty. Dangerous and risqué lyrics. They looked like a real life version of the band Stillwater from Almost Famous. Then something began to change. By their 4th album and single "Sex On Fire" I realized the band I love was dead. That album appeals to soccer moms across America. Their music boiled down to generic rock. It's like they got neutered.  |
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Post by Manualex on Jul 8, 2016 12:59:44 GMT -5
I agree. What's often meant with sell out though, is how bands change their sound to be more generic and commercial, thus to connect to a larger audience. The term "sell out" just isn't right for it's description. That's why I don't mind it when artists say they're doing it for the money. Yes, you're doing it for the money, we all work for money. A prime example for me are The Kings of Leon. Their debut alarm and sophomore effort were dirty and gritty. Dangerous and risqué lyrics. They looked like a real life version of the band Stillwater from Almost Famous. Then something began to change. By their 4th album and single "Sex On Fire" I realized the band I love was dead. That album appeals to soccer moms across America. Their music boiled down to generic rock. It's like they got neutered. That álbum sold more than The Joshua Tree on the UK. How!?!? |
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 8, 2016 13:08:33 GMT -5
To which Queensryche replied:  |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jul 8, 2016 14:12:17 GMT -5
A prime example for me are The Kings of Leon. Their debut alarm and sophomore effort were dirty and gritty. Dangerous and risqué lyrics. They looked like a real life version of the band Stillwater from Almost Famous. Then something began to change. By their 4th album and single "Sex On Fire" I realized the band I love was dead. That album appeals to soccer moms across America. Their music boiled down to generic rock. It's like they got neutered. That álbum sold more than The Joshua Tree on the UK. How!?!? The same reason Dido, The Corrs and Adele are all above it as well- successful MOR sold to the kind of people who would buy maybe one or two CD's a year at most, and whilst shopping at ASDA or Tesco in between buying milk and toothpaste. KOL was their 'Rock' album, Adele their 'Soul' album, Dido the meaningful singer songwriter and The Corrs I used to hear weirdly a lot in people's cars.... |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Jul 8, 2016 14:29:40 GMT -5
So does anyone else end up singing Bye Bye Batman?
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Post by champagneforever on Jul 8, 2016 19:44:38 GMT -5
I think I might end up getting into Pearl Jam again. I purchased their first three albums and found myself not really liking anything past it and then I just got kinda burnt out on them. Vitalogy, Vs, and Ten are all great albums pretty much all of the way through.(Minus Stupid Mop. Bugs is actually decent in an ironic sorta way.)
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 8, 2016 22:04:18 GMT -5
People always go about Coldplay being sell outs and all. I do agree. But I think Muse is up there, aswell. Horrendous band, the last albums, especially. I like Muse but they haven't released a good album in a decade. Even when they tried to get "back to basics" on their last one, they couldn't produce something cohesive. It's eerie how closely Coldplay and Muse's careers mirror each other. Both started out around the same time and established themselves as great alternative bands, yet as soon as fame (or shall I say... madness? ) got to their heads, they became self-parodies. |
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