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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 17:31:57 GMT -5
Easy question, it seems. We all have different tastes in music but most the time people agree on what is a good song.
However, some songs can divide sometimes. So, what makes a good song for you ?
Let's debate !
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Post by andybellwillring on Jan 19, 2016 17:45:04 GMT -5
Big ones for me:
Melody
Tight vocal harmonies are almost always a plus
Arrangement and production
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jan 19, 2016 17:54:01 GMT -5
It should be communicative to trigger or transfer very strong feelings.
Originality and professionalism are also very important to reach your interest.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 20, 2016 1:36:07 GMT -5
Production.
While you probably won't get away with dressing up a terrible song with a fancy arrangement, unless the song is really good, it won't sound right without those little moments in the song's mix that make it memorable.
That's why bad Oasis songs like PYMWYMI and I Can See a Liar are nice listens, because the production is, quite frankly, incredible.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 20, 2016 1:49:51 GMT -5
Melody.
Good vocals.
It must give you some sort of feeling.
Lyrics aren't very important to me as long as they're decent lines and don't include derogatory terms.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 20, 2016 2:42:28 GMT -5
Melody
Lyrics
Instinct
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Post by davidjay on Jan 20, 2016 3:15:53 GMT -5
I like this comment by Johnny Marr on the topic.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 20, 2016 7:56:13 GMT -5
Melody
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 20, 2016 9:18:26 GMT -5
Hmm... That's a difficult one.
Usually it has to have either a decent chord progression, a decent riff or two or a strong vocal melody for me to jump on board. There are obvious exceptions when you move into different genres, but I don't think a clear unifying songwriting equation exists. Good lyrics and production are just a welcome bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 9:31:37 GMT -5
Good = Live Forever, Champagne Supernova, The Turning
Not Good = The Nature of Reality, The Quiet Ones, (Probably) All In The Mind
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 20, 2016 9:55:51 GMT -5
Good = Live Forever, Champagne Supernova, The TurningNot Good = The Nature of Reality, The Quiet Ones, (Probably) All In The Mind Bit random. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 9:58:38 GMT -5
Good = Live Forever, Champagne Supernova, The TurningNot Good = The Nature of Reality, The Quiet Ones, (Probably) All In The Mind Bit random. The idea is that "good songs" are not necessarily all that similar to each other. It may be random, but is it wrong? I'd argue not. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2016 10:17:45 GMT -5
Melody.
But that's not saying much considering two people can listen to a song and come to completely separate opinions about how strong or catchy the melody may or may not be.
In general though, I think people like music based on its melody first. It's probably the first thing we recognize in any song if it's pleasant to our ears.
However, this is not always the case. For instance, a group called Fever Ray made an album that is full of songs that feel very experimental. I'm not sure there is really much of a melody on most of the tracks. It feels more like an audible journey through musical concepts than an attempt at creating coherent melodies.
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Post by Cast on Jan 20, 2016 10:19:55 GMT -5
Basically boils down to two things for me.
1. Genuine expression for the artist
2. The art itself has to relatable to the audience to a certain degree
Originality, craftsmanship, arrangement, production, all play important parts in executing and communicating those two things.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Jan 20, 2016 10:50:03 GMT -5
The urge to want to listen to it again.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 20, 2016 12:02:09 GMT -5
Good -
Melody
Good lyrics (if there are lyrics)
Catchy
Memorable to some degree
Great -
Melody
Production
Originality
Lyrics (Same as above)
Complexity (Whether melodic, lyrical or instrumental)
Always memorable
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 20, 2016 12:07:36 GMT -5
Basically boils down to two things for me. 1. Genuine expression for the artist 2. The art itself has to relatable to the audience to a certain degree Originality, craftsmanship, arrangement, production, all play important parts in executing and communicating those two things. I do agree on originality but then I remembered Don't Look Back In Anger is my favourite Oasis song, which is far from original since it has elements of about 5 or 6 different songs in it  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 12:44:52 GMT -5
A interesting melody in a phrygian or lydian mode, a 5 minute guitar solo with several diminished 7th arpeggios built in, a guitarist that plays his solo behind his back, a drum beat that uses three different kick drums (each tuned differently), a male singer who sounds like a medieval witch being burnt alive and you have a pretty decent song.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 20, 2016 13:03:33 GMT -5
A interesting melody in a phrygian or lydian mode, a 5 minute guitar solo with several diminished 7th arpeggios built in, a guitarist that plays his solo behind his back, a drum beat that uses three different kick drums (each tuned differently), a male singer who sounds like a medieval witch being burnt alive and you have a pretty decent song. I would add a gregorian choir. |
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Post by carlober on Jan 20, 2016 13:07:02 GMT -5
A interesting melody in a phrygian or lydian mode, a 5 minute guitar solo with several diminished 7th arpeggios built in, a guitarist that plays his solo behind his back, a drum beat that uses three different kick drums (each tuned differently), a male singer who sounds like a medieval witch being burnt alive and you have a pretty decent song. I would add a gregorian choir. |
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Post by Cast on Jan 20, 2016 13:54:33 GMT -5
Basically boils down to two things for me. 1. Genuine expression for the artist 2. The art itself has to relatable to the audience to a certain degree Originality, craftsmanship, arrangement, production, all play important parts in executing and communicating those two things. I do agree on originality but then I remembered Don't Look Back In Anger is my favourite Oasis song, which is far from original since it has elements of about 5 or 6 different songs in it haha you're right. the greats definitely steal and borrow. its hard especially these days to be 100% original sense there's only so many notes, chords, keys, and progressions, but the ways they are executed can still be very original and new. Don't Look Back in Anger definitely borrows heavily (imagine/all the young dudes), but the gripping part of that song - the chorus is 100% Noel. Might be the bars he is most remembered for as well. |
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