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Post by Parka Flames on Nov 24, 2018 15:39:59 GMT -5
Was listening to Stay Young earlier on and wow, I think it's the best sounding song to come out of the BHN recordings. Alan's cymbals aren't wince inducing and you can actually hear the different guitar elements. Was that tracked at Abbey Road? I'd like to hear whatever else came out of those sessions if so.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2018 11:29:19 GMT -5
Do Oasis break up in 2009 if the onstage attack didn’t happen?
I’m not so sure. It propelled Noel into absolute misery (understandably), making the tour incredibly dark. The pain and trauma Noel went through meant that he was unable to be patient with Liam’s normal antics as Noel sought to separate himself from the rest of the band.
Maybe Oasis should have cancelled the DOYS tour after the attack. Go back into the studio for the 8th album after Noel had a rest and then toured again following the 8th album’s release.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 25, 2018 12:06:15 GMT -5
Do Oasis break up in 2009 if the onstage attack didn’t happen? I’m not so sure. It propelled Noel into absolute misery (understandably), making the tour incredibly dark. The pain and trauma Noel went through meant that he was unable to be patient with Liam’s normal antics as Noel sought to separate himself from the rest of the band. Maybe Oasis should have cancelled the DOYS tour after the attack. Go back into the studio for the 8th album after Noel had a rest and then toured again following the 8th album’s release. I'm not so sure tbh I think Noel's reaction to the backstage fight in Paris was more a combination of becoming worn down from years of arguments and as I have posted before also his lack of pharmaceutical drugs. The bloke reacting in Paris was probably the real Noel who without chemical influences over the years would have walked off for good in past instances. If a clean and sober Noel without both the anxiety of coming off narcotics and being on mood altering prescriptions had been involved in that Barcelona altercation in 2000 then I think there is a good chance solo careers or new bands would have happened ten years or so before they did. That theory has also interested me in how the brothers profiles, still tabloid mainstays around that period, would have perhaps helped either achieve bigger successes in a pre-downloads near total wipeout of sales era. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Nov 25, 2018 12:06:35 GMT -5
Do Oasis break up in 2009 if the onstage attack didn’t happen? I’m not so sure. It propelled Noel into absolute misery (understandably), making the tour incredibly dark. The pain and trauma Noel went through meant that he was unable to be patient with Liam’s normal antics as Noel sought to separate himself from the rest of the band. Maybe Oasis should have cancelled the DOYS tour after the attack. Go back into the studio for the 8th album after Noel had a rest and then toured again following the 8th album’s release. Yes they still would have, I believe Noel was already wanting to leave before Dig Out Your Soul had even finished recording (the failed recordings in the studio etc probably cemented this in his mind) |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2018 12:36:41 GMT -5
Do Oasis break up in 2009 if the onstage attack didn’t happen? I’m not so sure. It propelled Noel into absolute misery (understandably), making the tour incredibly dark. The pain and trauma Noel went through meant that he was unable to be patient with Liam’s normal antics as Noel sought to separate himself from the rest of the band. Maybe Oasis should have cancelled the DOYS tour after the attack. Go back into the studio for the 8th album after Noel had a rest and then toured again following the 8th album’s release. I'm not so sure tbh I think Noel's reaction to the backstage fight in Paris was more a combination of becoming worn down from years of arguments and as I have posted before also his lack of pharmaceutical drugs. The bloke reacting in Paris was probably the real Noel who without chemical influences over the years would have walked off for good in past instances. If a clean and sober Noel without both the anxiety of coming off narcotics and being on mood altering prescriptions had been involved in that Barcelona altercation in 2000 then I think there is a good chance solo careers or new bands would have happened ten years or so before they did. That theory has also interested me in how the brothers profiles, still tabloid mainstays around that period, would have perhaps helped either achieve bigger successes in a pre-downloads near total wipeout of sales era. You lost me a bit: Was Noel on prescription pain pills after the 2008 attack? |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 25, 2018 13:06:45 GMT -5
You lost me a bit: Was Noel on prescription pain pills after the 2008 attack? I don't know about Paris sorry, I was talking about his prescription meds during the SOTSOG era. The point I was (obviously badly) trying to make was that Noel as far as I am aware was more or less straight in 2009, and so I think his reaction to the backstage fight in Paris, i.e. quitting for good, was how he would have probably reacted in other eras had it not been for narcotic or prescrip drugs affecting his judgement/mood such as in the SOTSOG era. Hope this makes a bit more sense!  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2018 13:14:21 GMT -5
You lost me a bit: Was Noel on prescription pain pills after the 2008 attack? I don't know about Paris sorry, I was talking about his prescription meds during the SOTSOG era. The point I was (obviously badly) trying to make was that Noel as far as I am aware was more or less straight in 2009, and so I think his reaction to the backstage fight in Paris, i.e. quitting for good, was how he would have probably reacted in other eras had it not been for narcotic or prescrip drugs affecting his judgement/mood such as in the SOTSOG era. Hope this makes a bit more sense! Cheers for clarifying. I see what you’re saying. I do think it’s an interesting question to ask though, regarding the impact of the attack on the band’s chemistry as a whole. |
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Post by Aman on Nov 25, 2018 15:59:54 GMT -5
Chandler introducing Oasis and then Liam smashing it with Don't Go Away is literally perfection to me. 😍
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2018 16:37:11 GMT -5
Chandler introducing Oasis and then Liam smashing it with Don't Go Away is literally perfection to me. 😍 Wish they played the middle eight - don’t know why it’s not included in these types of performances. It’s not like the song would be noticeably longer...? It’s the best part of DGA, for fuck’s sake. |
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Post by Aman on Nov 25, 2018 16:39:59 GMT -5
Yeah I know kills the song. 😏
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 26, 2018 22:03:44 GMT -5
Chandler introducing Oasis and then Liam smashing it with Don't Go Away is literally perfection to me. 😍 Don't forget Noel scratching at his balls a bit while they all stare into the camera and say goodnight. I liked that they played Acquiesce too. |
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Post by Aman on Nov 27, 2018 18:19:44 GMT -5
Love Like A Bomb is absolutely awful.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 8:43:18 GMT -5
Love Like A Bomb is absolutely awful. I really wish this was re-recorded, or mastered, or mixed, or something. The song itself isn't terrible, but I'll be damned if they recorded something worse than this. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 28, 2018 11:25:55 GMT -5
Love Like A Bomb is absolutely awful. I really wish this was re-recorded, or mastered, or mixed, or something. The song itself isn't terrible, but I'll be damned if they recorded something worse than this. As poor as LLAB sounds... Street Fighting Man says hello  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:58:05 GMT -5
Was listening to Stay Young earlier on and wow, I think it's the best sounding song to come out of the BHN recordings. Alan's cymbals aren't wince inducing and you can actually hear the different guitar elements. Was that tracked at Abbey Road? I'd like to hear whatever else came out of those sessions if so. Weird. I was listening to Stay Young the other day and thought the exact opposite. I mean I get what you're saying, the lead sound is very nice but the rhythm guitar in the background sounds like a fucking vacuum cleaner. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Nov 28, 2018 12:03:19 GMT -5
I really wish this was re-recorded, or mastered, or mixed, or something. The song itself isn't terrible, but I'll be damned if they recorded something worse than this. As poor as LLAB sounds... Street Fighting Man says hello I see your Street Fighting Man and raise you High Horse Lady |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 28, 2018 12:47:22 GMT -5
Love Like A Bomb is absolutely awful. I’ve always liked LLAB - love when the piano kicks in. It’s a nice track to play in the late Spring, as is the rest of DBTT mind. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Nov 28, 2018 13:02:27 GMT -5
I see your Street Fighting Man and raise you High Horse Lady Really was just speaking of the recording quality here. Your comment made me listen to HHL though. That's my once every 5 years done  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 28, 2018 13:03:32 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry (2002) is easily Oasis’ worst album but even that had The Hindu Times, Little by Little, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, and Songbird - four phenomenal singles. Top band.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 13:06:50 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry (2002) is easily Oasis’ worst album but even that had The Hindu Times, Little by Little, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, and Songbird - four phenomenal singles. Top band.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 28, 2018 14:11:03 GMT -5
All of those are good and could have been great, but the band was confusing back-to-basics for half-arsed at the time. "Basics" for Oasis was loud layers of distorted guitars, simple drums, and great solos - the demo version of The Hindu Times is the only thing that comes close to that from the HC era, and it's easily the best thing about it.
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Post by crisppacket on Nov 28, 2018 17:19:27 GMT -5
Haven’t listened to this band in a while, might check them out later
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Post by supernovadragon on Nov 28, 2018 17:23:16 GMT -5
I'll never get what the problem with Heathen Chemistry is, I've always enjoyed it and except for just 2 (3 including quick peep) have always played it straight through and thought the flow of the album was one of the strongest they released
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 28, 2018 17:23:28 GMT -5
As poor as LLAB sounds... Street Fighting Man says hello Agreed it's poor, although that cover did at least inspire the single which kicked off the 2005/06 era revival for Oasis- |
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Post by wiol92 on Nov 28, 2018 18:23:02 GMT -5
Well, I must admit, Heathen Chemistry is a "black sheep" of Oasis discography for me, as well. And no, I don`t claim that the arrival of Gem and Andy ruined that band, but most of the tunes are just average (especially Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud and Quick Peep), maybe because it was some kind of a transitional album for them, with new band members. And of course that record has absolutely nothing to do with back-to-basics, I`d rather say it was a departure from their 90s sound. Surely the great tracks are Hindu Times, Hung in a Bad Place, Better Man and She Is Love (probably the most beautiful love song I`ve ever heard).
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