|
|
Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 17, 2016 12:03:46 GMT -5
Ok. Hung In A Bad Place is ace. Had Oasis recorded it during the BHN era, it would've been MASSIVE. Shame that the production is what it is. |
|
|
|
Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 17, 2016 12:24:20 GMT -5
Ok. Hung In A Bad Place is ace. Had Oasis recorded it during the BHN era, it would've been MASSIVE. Shame that the production is what it is. Somewhat surprised me they didn't bin that song on the HC sessions and replace it with Chinese Burn if the were sticking with Mr Archer's glam leanings. It's a Gem song still that yes he had already recorded (albeit virtually unknown given that the Deja Voodoo album did only 5,000 copies in it's first year despite Loch Lamond and (IIRC) Weller support slots), but it was a song that both Noel and Paul Weller had called "one of the best songs of the nineties" (IIRC on "Gallagher's London Radio", a special for GLR that also featured Digsy Deary and Robbie Williams as guests). In the end I suppose they chose new songs as an credible attempt to move forward, but for me as people have already said, that record was essentially an EP with some throwaway songs tacked on to make it an LP. |
|
|
|
Post by AllThePlasticPeople on Jan 17, 2016 12:48:19 GMT -5
where did the energy go in oasis? listening to wonderwall in 98 then in 2005 they sound so bored, I mean listen to the general instrumental of this, theres so much interesting little things going on in it. The more I think about the more I think what oasis needed more than anything around that 02 era was a break, it mightve helped Liams voice recover and allowed Noel some time to get some inspiration back in his writing, Liams voice wasnt really the problem as a whole, the whole experience of oasis just wasnt there in the later years, his voice isnt even that great on that chile video but its still a great listen. this is just boring in comparison, its so through the motions. It left with Bonehead and Guigsy. |
|
|
|
Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 17, 2016 13:39:08 GMT -5
Y'know what, there is one small redeeming quality of She Is Love. At least Noel's vocal sounds like he's having fun, which is more than can be said about Liam's performances on that album.
|
|
|
|
Post by mossy on Jan 17, 2016 13:53:57 GMT -5
Marr on Noel.
"Taketh thy Les Paul and lay down some heavy licks..."
|
|
|
|
Post by mossy on Jan 17, 2016 13:56:32 GMT -5
that record was essentially an EP with some throwaway songs tacked on to make it an LP. Which post-BHN album are we talking about again? ;-) |
|
|
|
Post by noelygthelegend on Jan 17, 2016 14:49:37 GMT -5
that record was essentially an EP with some throwaway songs tacked on to make it an LP. Which post-BHN album are we talking about again? ;-) think thats a bit harsh HC fair enough but the other 3 are missing 3 songs each imo to make them great albums not up to the first 2 but BHN level but the is purely my opinion, i think DBTT didnt have the songs u could argue pass me down the wine but imo they couldnt have done much better with the tracklisting for that but DOYS and SOTSOG did have the songs but it was poor tracklisting that stopped them from being great |
|
|
|
Post by mossy on Jan 17, 2016 15:07:21 GMT -5
Which post-BHN album are we talking about again? ;-) think thats a bit harsh HC fair enough but the other 3 are missing 3 songs each imo to make them great albums not up to the first 2 but BHN level but the is purely my opinion, i think DBTT didnt have the songs u could argue pass me down the wine but imo they couldnt have done much better with the tracklisting for that but DOYS and SOTSOG did have the songs but it was poor tracklisting that stopped them from being great Maybe it's the snow but I'm in a harsh mood tonight! Winter is coming. Surely saying SOTSOG and DOYS had poor track listings confirms my point? |
|
|
|
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 17, 2016 15:23:53 GMT -5
think thats a bit harsh HC fair enough but the other 3 are missing 3 songs each imo to make them great albums not up to the first 2 but BHN level but the is purely my opinion, i think DBTT didnt have the songs u could argue pass me down the wine but imo they couldnt have done much better with the tracklisting for that but DOYS and SOTSOG did have the songs but it was poor tracklisting that stopped them from being great Maybe it's the snow but I'm in a harsh mood tonight! Winter is coming. Surely saying SOTSOG and DOYS had poor track listings confirms my point? Winter is 1/3rd done, you wally! |
|
|
|
Post by World71R on Jan 17, 2016 15:28:54 GMT -5
Y'know what, there is one small redeeming quality of She Is Love. At least Noel's vocal sounds like he's having fun, which is more than can be said about Liam's performances on that album. Another redeeming quality is the production. Everything sounds right up front without being too muddy, and that organ is awesome. I just wish that it had better lyrics because it's really about the only thing that drags the song down. |
|
|
|
Post by World71R on Jan 17, 2016 16:20:03 GMT -5
where did the energy go in oasis? listening to wonderwall in 98 then in 2005 they sound so bored, I mean listen to the general instrumental of this, theres so much interesting little things going on in it. The more I think about the more I think what oasis needed more than anything around that 02 era was a break, it mightve helped Liams voice recover and allowed Noel some time to get some inspiration back in his writing, Liams voice wasnt really the problem as a whole, the whole experience of oasis just wasnt there in the later years, his voice isnt even that great on that chile video but its still a great listen. this is just boring in comparison, its so through the motions. It left with Bonehead and Guigsy. I think it's the drums. In the 1998 performance, Whitey was still with the band, and he did the iconic drumming on Wonderwall so there's a little added energy to it. Zak's drumming just lacks that same kind of jazz-y energy and shuffle that made the rhythm section really special on WW and other classics that Whitey drummed on. Chris Sharrock, on the other hand, had a little bit of a shuffle to his drumming and also packed a punch. Imo, he was the perfect drummer for the band, and it's a shame that they split up before they did an album with him. |
|
|
|
Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 17, 2016 17:01:47 GMT -5
RM wouldn't have fit on DOYS.
It's far too triumphant a song compared to the dark nature of songs like Bag It Up, The Turning, Falling Down, etc. Now of course we don't know what the version recorded during the DOYS sessions sounds like, but something tells me that it wasn't very different from the HFB version, even if it were 8 minutes and full of heavy riffs.
|
|
|
|
Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2016 17:09:32 GMT -5
Spotted Gem on the TV at the Masters Snooker final today with Andy Goldstein.
|
|
|
|
Post by noelygthelegend on Jan 17, 2016 17:11:10 GMT -5
think thats a bit harsh HC fair enough but the other 3 are missing 3 songs each imo to make them great albums not up to the first 2 but BHN level but the is purely my opinion, i think DBTT didnt have the songs u could argue pass me down the wine but imo they couldnt have done much better with the tracklisting for that but DOYS and SOTSOG did have the songs but it was poor tracklisting that stopped them from being great Maybe it's the snow but I'm in a harsh mood tonight! Winter is coming. Surely saying SOTSOG and DOYS had poor track listings confirms my point? aha. well what i was saying they are both really good albums that could be made great by better tracklisting. |
|
|
|
Post by glider on Jan 18, 2016 0:42:05 GMT -5
Someone on the Oasis subreddit blessed us with this beautiful bootleg with amazing audio. The first Andy+Gem gig. Watch and enjoy. Beyond on form Liam vocals.
|
|
|
|
Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 18, 2016 1:12:53 GMT -5
Best/worst Oasis songs by songwriter:
Noel: Live Forever/(Probably) All in the Mind
Liam: Songbird/Won't Let You Down
Gem: To Be Where There's Life/The Quiet Ones
Andy: Turn Up the Sun/The Nature of Reality
|
|
|
|
Post by rockitchris89 on Jan 18, 2016 7:34:20 GMT -5
I still have to finish Paolo Hewitt's book 'Getting high'. I started reading it like two month ago and stopped with just 50 pages to go. Can't explain it myself why i didn't pick it up again, it's a great book. Maybe tomorrow...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 10:14:01 GMT -5
Best/worst Oasis songs by songwriter: Noel: Live Forever/(Probably) All in the Mind Liam: Songbird/Won't Let You Down Gem: To Be Where There's Life/The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up the Sun/The Nature of Reality Noel: Go Let It Out/Probably) All In The Mind Liam: Guess God Think's I'm Abel/Won't Let You Down Gem: Hung In A bad Place/The Quiet Ones Andy: Keep The Dream Alive/The Nature Of Reality |
|
|
|
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 18, 2016 12:28:20 GMT -5
Record Machine Demo leaked on that magical night in 2008....omfg how they missed a trick on this one! I so badly need that Liam sung, guitar-laden version that Noel claims exists.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 12:59:30 GMT -5
Someone on the Oasis subreddit blessed us with this beautiful bootleg with amazing audio. The first Andy+Gem gig. Watch and enjoy. Beyond on form Liam vocals. ive got the audio from that on my phone, Liam sounds really good there but the sound mix is all over the place, things suddenly getting louder than going off etc, pretty good overall though. |
|
|
|
Post by jupi on Jan 18, 2016 14:25:33 GMT -5
Just listening to @id1edreamer's brilliant Don't Believe the Truth Redux...
Turn Up the Sun is A TUNE and so is Lord Don't Slow Me Down!!!! Great, great remix album.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 17:19:23 GMT -5
DJ's, "beliebers", boys bands, etc, all need to STOP covering Wonderwall. They're killing the soul of this gorgeous song.
|
|
|
|
Post by World71R on Jan 18, 2016 19:09:54 GMT -5
Best/worst Oasis songs by songwriter: Noel: Live Forever/(Probably) All in the Mind Liam: Songbird/Won't Let You Down Gem: To Be Where There's Life/The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up the Sun/The Nature of Reality Noel: Don't Look Back in Anger/(Probably) All in the Mind Liam: Boy With the Blues/Won't Let You Down Gem: To Be Where There's Life/The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up the Sun/The Nature of Reality |
|
|
|
Post by World71R on Jan 18, 2016 19:22:01 GMT -5
Someone on the Oasis subreddit blessed us with this beautiful bootleg with amazing audio. The first Andy+Gem gig. Watch and enjoy. Beyond on form Liam vocals. What a gig... Liam's voice has the perfect amount of grit to it, Noel's also, and the whole band is refreshed, energized, and charged up. Helter Skelter sounds great here and that jam at the end is insane. Add that in with their ominous attire, the fact that it was Andy & Gem's first gig, and it took place in an experimental era for the band, and this gig definitely stands out from others as having more of an edge to it. If only they had played Gas Panic! or something else from SOTSOG because I think that would've sounded epic. |
|
|
|
Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2016 19:56:54 GMT -5
Best/worst Oasis songs by songwriter: Noel: Live Forever/(Probably) All in the Mind Liam: Songbird/Won't Let You Down Gem: To Be Where There's Life/The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up the Sun/The Nature of Reality Noel: D'You Know What I Mean? / Mucky Fingers Liam: I'm Outta Time / Won't Let You Down Gem: To Be Where There's Life / The Quiet Ones Andy: Turn Up The Sun / The Nature of Reality |
|
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5