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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 11:54:33 GMT -5
I know it seems very unlikely and I expect some here wouldnt even care but I dont really see Liam doing anything else, a solo career would really be all but pointless imo as I dont see him being any more successful on his own compared to beady eye (though I wouldnt complain if he did do it) and seeing as theres no hint of oasis coming back anytime soon do you think that seeing as none of them have anything too solid going on (accept andy) theres some potential that they will get back together and go out for another try? few people here seem to think that beady eye didnt split due to their success but more down to Gems injury and Liams problems.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 16, 2015 12:21:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect them to myself, they were hampered in many ways by the "Oasis minus Noel" tag that certain elements of the media foisted on them, and I can't see that changing if they did reunite, nor would there be a realistic reason for a reunion to be the start of a revival in significant back catalogue sales, etc.
Liam himself if he does anything musically will be with a reformed Oasis for touring, or a solo career for new material. That said I still stand by what I have said that with the ongoing success of his non-musical projects he may well not bother with music again professionally unless he can prepare himself for a final pay day style tour with Oasis.
Andy obviously is enjoying a renaissance with Ride and DJing again, whilst Gem has been relatively quiet bar the Noel appearances. I do wonder how his health is after those BE era injuries, and whether perhaps he is more inclined or even forced by medical reasons to take a more back seat or part time approach to his music career.
Chris Sharrock has a name in the business as a sessions drummer as well as a band member, and it wouldn't be a stretch to see him behind the drums for either a periodically reforming Liverpool band like Shack or The La's (his one time outfit), or on stage with another big name artist such as when he drummed as part of Robbie Williams band.
It is possible that with an Oasis reunion there may be guest slots a la Taylor/Wyman on Stones tours after their respective stints, but IMO there wouldn't be the demand or financial reward to make a Beady Eye reunion worth it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 16, 2015 12:21:38 GMT -5
Its not really about success though is it? Its about putting something out of musical worth. Something good. Whether it sells 500 or 50,000.
I would welcome Beady Eye returning, I like there music and they are a really good live band. Maybe they would do a few shows in the future.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 16, 2015 12:50:08 GMT -5
They only split up a year ago. Doubt they'll ever get back again. There's a reason they split.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 16, 2015 12:54:31 GMT -5
But that reason seems to have little to do with music. Its not like there was a lot of inner tension or not that we know of. Didn't Gem say they were writing for album 3 when Liam's personal life imploded?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 16, 2015 12:55:18 GMT -5
I still think it unlikely but maybe a few shows in a few years time.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 16, 2015 12:55:39 GMT -5
Its not really about success though is it? Its about putting something out of musical worth. Something good. Whether it sells 500 or 50,000. I would welcome Beady Eye returning, I like there music and they are a really good live band. Maybe they would do a few shows in the future. I know what you mean Tom, but I was talking about the incentive for the band, particularly Liam if I am honest to reform. For what it's worth I enjoyed both LPs and the b-sides, as well as two live shows but I can't see them doing it for at least some of the reasons I posted above. That said we can always add another number to the ever growing list of times I was wrong- please see the ex if they reform and she will gladly mark it against my name!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 16, 2015 12:58:21 GMT -5
Its not really about success though is it? Its about putting something out of musical worth. Something good. Whether it sells 500 or 50,000. I would welcome Beady Eye returning, I like there music and they are a really good live band. Maybe they would do a few shows in the future. I know what you mean Tom, but I was talking about the incentive for the band, particularly Liam if I am honest to reform. For what it's worth I enjoyed both LPs and the b-sides, as well as two live shows but I can't see them doing it for at least some of the reasons I posted above. That said we can always add another number to the ever growing list of times I was wrong- please see the ex if they reform and she will gladly mark it against my name! Sorry mate when I was replying I thought it was going to go under the OP's post! It was his mention of success in regard to Liam solo I was referring to.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 16, 2015 13:02:06 GMT -5
I know what you mean Tom, but I was talking about the incentive for the band, particularly Liam if I am honest to reform. For what it's worth I enjoyed both LPs and the b-sides, as well as two live shows but I can't see them doing it for at least some of the reasons I posted above. That said we can always add another number to the ever growing list of times I was wrong- please see the ex if they reform and she will gladly mark it against my name! Sorry mate when I was replying I thought it was going to go under the OP's post! It was his mention of success in regard to Liam solo I was referring to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 13:02:35 GMT -5
No. Simple as. It was a expirement and although some liked it , it did not get the reception Liam is / was looking for .... would I be opposed ? No , I was never a fan but if Liam wants to do it. He earned that right ...... He just seemed really disgusted in the fact it didn't take off like he thought , so I can't see him going backwards. And there certainly is no clam our for a reunion , outside of some on the forum
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Post by joladella on Dec 16, 2015 13:12:58 GMT -5
I'd love for it to happen because I'm still heartbroken about it, but I don't really see it happening. Andy is obviously happy with Ride and God knows what the others are doing. As for Liam, in the old interviews he was always going on about his love for music and singing and that it always will be part of his life. But I cannot help but wonder about his silence, for, how long? Over two years, apart from the very rare mostly charity or football related short interviews or his twitter rants and he even stopped doing those. I guess it is just a question of him being only in hibernation or totally withdrawn, for whatever reason. But, he is still just in his early 40ies, so who knows what the next few years are going to bring? I cling to that pub singing from summer as a sign that he is not yet done with music.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 13:22:03 GMT -5
Gem has been relatively quiet bar the Noel appearances. I do wonder how his health is after those BE era injuries, and whether perhaps he is more inclined or even forced by medical reasons to take a more back seat or part time approach to his music career. I wonder this myself really, I might be wrong but I believe andy took lead after Gem was injured? I just get this feeling with Gem that his injury was a big reason as to why they packed it in, not because it stalled the momentum but maybe Gem was still in poor health and either couldnt or didnt want to continue on as a guitarist in a full touring capacity. I didnt really know what to make of him at the bbc radio gig, he looked ok I guess but something looked off about him (maybe its just me) suppose we dont really know on what terms they all parted in the end, I doubt gem and andy wouldve been totally fine if Liam really did just say he wanted to quit.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Dec 16, 2015 13:28:43 GMT -5
Gem has been relatively quiet bar the Noel appearances. I do wonder how his health is after those BE era injuries, and whether perhaps he is more inclined or even forced by medical reasons to take a more back seat or part time approach to his music career. I wonder this myself really, I might be wrong but I believe andy took lead after Gem was injured? I just get this feeling with Gem that his injury was a big reason as to why they packed it in, not because it stalled the momentum but maybe Gem was still in poor health and either couldnt or didnt want to continue on as a guitarist in a full touring capacity. I didnt really know what to make of him at the bbc radio gig, he looked ok I guess but something looked off about him (maybe its just me) suppose we dont really know on what terms they all parted in the end, I doubt gem and andy wouldve been totally fine if Liam really did just say he wanted to quit. Maybe not- I thought he looked tired myself but again that could be personal experiences with my late dad clouding my judgement, I hope in this case I am wrong As to the split it did appear to come out of the blue but even if it wasn't pre-planned the warning signs with delays professionally, Liam's personal situations, etc. must have been there, and Oasis like many other artists have not been adverse to using publicity grabbing versions of events to keep themselves in the public eye- not that there's anything wrong with that per se, The Stones have used it for decades, but it does mean the complete truth may always be buried so to speak.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 16, 2015 13:58:26 GMT -5
But that reason seems to have little to do with music. Its not like there was a lot of inner tension or not that we know of. Didn't Gem say they were writing for album 3 when Liam's personal life imploded? I think it's a combination of factors and that music, or rather the success (or lack of success, depending how you look at it. Not going into that now) was a factor. Gem's injury too, but not because it stalled momentum, but maybe because he couldn't or didn't want to continue, like someone else said. Very likely that Liam's private life was a factor as well. Anyway, those aren't reasons to split up, right? Could have taken a hiatus. And if Liam's private life was the thing that made them split, then a solo career definitely won't help. Anyway, one can only speculate and I don't know, obviously. Has any of them ever explained why they split?
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Post by space75gr on Dec 16, 2015 14:31:33 GMT -5
i d love to see them together again... Definitely a very interesting story, the reasons of the split me personally, as die-hard (yes) beady eye fan, i would like to hear a reason, an explanation sometime, even if they dont have to...but it would be nice
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Post by warewolf95 on Dec 16, 2015 14:49:01 GMT -5
I don't see it happenning, but I would LOVE a Beady Eye reunion. What pisses me off so much is how they let it fizzle out. Yea, album 1 didn't do much but they gave it their best. Album 2 was a great album but shit beyond their control happenned and they just gave up. FUCK THAT. Give us Album number 3!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 14:52:55 GMT -5
But that reason seems to have little to do with music. Its not like there was a lot of inner tension or not that we know of. Didn't Gem say they were writing for album 3 when Liam's personal life imploded? I think it's a combination of factors and that music, or rather the success (or lack of success, depending how you look at it. Not going into that now) was a factor. Gem's injury too, but not because it stalled momentum, but maybe because he couldn't or didn't want to continue, like someone else said. Very likely that Liam's private life was a factor as well. Anyway, those aren't reasons to split up, right? Could have taken a hiatus. And if Liam's private life was the thing that made them split, then a solo career definitely won't help. Anyway, one can only speculate and I don't know, obviously. Has any of them ever explained why they split? think this is all thats been said, which could be true but hes hardly going to mention more personal reasons if there were any.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 16, 2015 15:40:50 GMT -5
But that reason seems to have little to do with music. Its not like there was a lot of inner tension or not that we know of. Didn't Gem say they were writing for album 3 when Liam's personal life imploded? I think it's a combination of factors and that music, or rather the success (or lack of success, depending how you look at it. Not going into that now) was a factor. Gem's injury too, but not because it stalled momentum, but maybe because he couldn't or didn't want to continue, like someone else said. Very likely that Liam's private life was a factor as well. Anyway, those aren't reasons to split up, right? Could have taken a hiatus. And if Liam's private life was the thing that made them split, then a solo career definitely won't help. Anyway, one can only speculate and I don't know, obviously. Has any of them ever explained why they split? I'm just trying to put myself in there position. I think Gem's injury took the wind out of there sails and set them back after they all seemed really geared up for it and Liam's fuck up must have put stress not on their relationships as individuals but on them as a band with the wives obviously all being friends I can imagine it changed the atmosphere considerably, especially with new girlfriend in tow and not knowing how much influence she had, maybe none. Liam would probably have been told by his lawyers that the coming battles might last a long time and a darkening of the atmosphere may have made him think better of continuing. I'm not saying the music wasn't part of his decision I just think there were bigger things going on at the time. I'm no doubt way off the mark.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 15:53:20 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of factors and that music, or rather the success (or lack of success, depending how you look at it. Not going into that now) was a factor. Gem's injury too, but not because it stalled momentum, but maybe because he couldn't or didn't want to continue, like someone else said. Very likely that Liam's private life was a factor as well. Anyway, those aren't reasons to split up, right? Could have taken a hiatus. And if Liam's private life was the thing that made them split, then a solo career definitely won't help. Anyway, one can only speculate and I don't know, obviously. Has any of them ever explained why they split? I'm just trying to put myself in there position. I think Gem's injury took the wind out of there sails and set them back after they all seemed really geared up for it and Liam's fuck up must have put stress not on their relationships as individuals but on them as a band with the wives obviously all being friends I can imagine it changed the atmosphere considerably, especially with new girlfriend in tow and not knowing how much influence she had, maybe none. Liam would probably have been told by his lawyers that the coming battles might last a long time and a darkening of the atmosphere may have made him think better of continuing. I'm not saying the music wasn't part of his decision I just think there were bigger things going on at the time. I'm no doubt way off the mark. I think Liam was proper into it until the first night of the tour, I remember saying at the time we were all following that first gig to see what they were going to play etc that Liam looked abit pissed off and distant, I mean his personal life was probably starting to fall apart at that time. the rest of the band were nowhere to be seen when Liam was hanging out with the manager in ibiza, I think all of their wives were / are good friends so yea probably caused a rift, I dont think they wouldve been totally cool about everything, it was their band / lives too, I wouldnt even be surprised if they knew Liam was with that manager long before anyone else knew simply because they were working around them both.
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Post by mkoasis on Dec 16, 2015 20:46:08 GMT -5
I don't see it happenning, but I would LOVE a Beady Eye reunion. What pisses me off so much is how they let it fizzle out. Yea, album 1 didn't do much but they gave it their best. Album 2 was a great album but shit beyond their control happenned and they just gave up. FUCK THAT. Give us Album number 3! You know, I agree. If they can put out more tunes like World Outside My Room and Flick of the Finger, I'd be more than happy to hear them. The only Beady Eye gig I saw was a terrific, high energy experience.
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Post by Bruno on Dec 16, 2015 21:26:13 GMT -5
A Beady Eye reunion has more potential to do something new/different musically than an Oasis reunion in all honesty so I'd love to see them back together though I don't see it happening.
They were moving in the right direction anyway with album #2, shame they never got a third album out. Could've been their breakthrough album IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 21:42:50 GMT -5
i'd say there's zero chance, unfortunately.
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Post by warewolf95 on Dec 16, 2015 22:59:26 GMT -5
I don't see it happenning, but I would LOVE a Beady Eye reunion. What pisses me off so much is how they let it fizzle out. Yea, album 1 didn't do much but they gave it their best. Album 2 was a great album but shit beyond their control happenned and they just gave up. FUCK THAT. Give us Album number 3! You know, I agree. If they can put out more tunes like World Outside My Room and Flick of the Finger, I'd be more than happy to hear them. The only Beady Eye gig I saw was a terrific, high energy experience. I love album one. It's great - I don't care what anyone says. It's just a damn enjoyable little album. But album two was the artistic breakthrough. They evolved. God damn it if I wasn't stoked to see where they would go next! At least we have enough "bonus" material for a third albums' worth of songs if you combine all the b-sides and bonus tracks.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 16, 2015 23:26:29 GMT -5
With some distance now away from the brand, I wouldn't want them to. Splitting was probably the best thing to happen to Beady Eye.
Now they're not carrying dead weight, they can actually attempt something in the music world that will have a chance for success. They blew it with DGSS. Everything after that was always going to be inconsequential.
If they want to reunite as a different band with a different sound other than the 60's revival rock, then that would be cool. But they'd still be called Oasis 2.0 by the media and that would hurt them just as it did with Beady Eye.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Dec 17, 2015 2:23:36 GMT -5
It surprises me how much more I want Beady Eye to reunite instead of Oasis. I love Oasis but I never had a band I was that hyped for as I felt with Beady Eye.
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