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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 2, 2015 8:07:22 GMT -5
Many people criticise his voice in his late Oasis days + with Beady Eye, but he's had some great days too.
Yes the last one is a rehearsal but he sounds good.
IMO his 2011 voice is better than his 2008/2009 one
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 9:34:26 GMT -5
IMO his 2011 voice is better than his 2008/2009 one totally agree. miles better. in my opinion on many nights his 2011 voice was as good/almost as good as his 2000 voice. |
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Post by carryusall on Nov 2, 2015 9:42:01 GMT -5
IMO his 2011 voice is better than his 2008/2009 one totally agree. miles better. in my opinion on many nights his 2011 voice was as good/almost as good as his 2000 voice. He really upped his game on the first Beady Eye tour. He had something to prove again, and in my opinion he proved it. His voice is a lot better than it was around DOYS or even DBTT, I know it's only one song but thought he sounded great at the live Who tribute thing (not the TV show thing, the live one) I think he's really put a lot of effort into his voice in the last few years, using the honey and shit like that. I think next time we hear Liam (and I think we will) people will be surprised how good he sounds |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 13:17:43 GMT -5
I dont want to be the guy who pisses on the fire but I think Liams voice was altered on that empress ballroom gig, just seems pitched up, Ive tried listening to some of the crowd recordings of that gig and cant really tell so it might be a real vocal.
casino de paris is a belter though, hadnt sounded that powerful for a very long time, think Liam gets bored and his vocal suffers, thats why he sounded mostly shite on the last oasis tour playing supersonic / wonderwall over and over. Beady eye got him interested again but that clearly didnt last too long, I remember on the first gig of the BE tour I mentioned how bored Liam was already looking, he went on to have those shocking festival shows (possibly rivaling that argentina 06 gig) though he did comeback in that november sounding great.
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 2, 2015 15:36:25 GMT -5
totally agree. miles better. in my opinion on many nights his 2011 voice was as good/almost as good as his 2000 voice. He really upped his game on the first Beady Eye tour. He had something to prove again, and in my opinion he proved it. His voice is a lot better than it was around DOYS or even DBTT, I know it's only one song but thought he sounded great at the live Who tribute thing (not the TV show thing, the live one) I think he's really put a lot of effort into his voice in the last few years, using the honey and shit like that. I think next time we hear Liam (and I think we will) people will be surprised how good he sounds In all honesty, I think we've heard the best we had to hear in 2011..I can't see him improving tbh, the only thing I can see is him maintaining what he currently has if he takes care of it. |
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Post by World71R on Nov 2, 2015 22:39:44 GMT -5
He really upped his game on the first Beady Eye tour. He had something to prove again, and in my opinion he proved it. His voice is a lot better than it was around DOYS or even DBTT, I know it's only one song but thought he sounded great at the live Who tribute thing (not the TV show thing, the live one) I think he's really put a lot of effort into his voice in the last few years, using the honey and shit like that. I think next time we hear Liam (and I think we will) people will be surprised how good he sounds In all honesty, I think we've heard the best we had to hear in 2011..I can't see him improving tbh, the only thing I can see is him maintaining what he currently has if he takes care of it. I disagree. His performance at the Abbey Road Acoustic Sessions was a bright spot for him in, not just his post-SOTSOG career, but for his whole career. He was consistently good all throughout that gig and really nailed every song, imo. That's something he hadn't done in a long, long time, prior to that, and it's a shame that that gig is as underrated as it is. |
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Post by The Chief on Nov 4, 2015 11:24:14 GMT -5
Well first off that version of The Morning Son isn't that great. He's on tune but that's pretty much it.
Second, Liam has a great voice for the record and the first gigs. As the tour goes by he loses it and at the end sounds like he can't be arsed. Is it fatigue? Maybe. But we all know Liam's not the type to try to give 100% if he feels like giving 30.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 4, 2015 13:29:27 GMT -5
Well first off that version of The Morning Son isn't that great. He's on tune but that's pretty much it. Second, Liam has a great voice for the record and the first gigs. As the tour goes by he loses it and at the end sounds like he can't be arsed. Is it fatigue? Maybe. But we all know Liam's not the type to try to give 100% if he feels like giving 30. A great song from NOFX that lyrically could easily apply to Liam  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 18:29:13 GMT -5
...Second, Liam has a great voice for the record and the first gigs. As the tour goes by he loses it and at the end sounds like he can't be arsed. Is it fatigue? Maybe. But we all know Liam's not the type to try to give 100% if he feels like giving 30. but i think at many of those 2011 gigs he was in fact giving 100%. he sounded great and most importantly was holding notes longer than he had in years. in years. pick a gig at random from 2011 and i think you'll find that more times than not this was the case. even on some nights when he wasn't at 100% vocally he still turned in the effort. and you can tell he was having a great time on stage and so was the band! in addition, listen to his studio vocals on the dgss record, and then listen to what he sounded like on some of the songs on dbtt. i think carryusall was spot on when he said he felt like he had something to prove and as fans we benefitted from it. competition is a good thing! however in stark contrast on the abbreviated BE tour he was sounding more like he did in 2008/2009, unfortunately. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 18:37:10 GMT -5
as "shit" as people say this performance was (I personally think it was fantastic, you can hear echos of 90s Liam) id take this a million times over the crap he was putting out in 09.
Im actually surprised people wernt that impressed with the olympics, he sounds great there, shaky at the start by imo he gets into it.
I probably listen to this version the most next to the jools holland version.
I just think overall its good his voice has at least got stronger after it degraded for so long, he couldve easily stayed at that thin whisper he had in 09 and never recovered at all, he was pretty strong through the majority of beady eye.
this to me was such a surprise, never thought Id hear Liam like this again
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Post by tezza198 on Nov 5, 2015 3:39:02 GMT -5
as "shit" as people say this performance was (I personally think it was fantastic, you can hear echos of 90s Liam) id take this a million times over the crap he was putting out in 09. Im actually surprised people wernt that impressed with the olympics, he sounds great there, shaky at the start by imo he gets into it. I probably listen to this version the most next to the jools holland version. Yeah i think so too.. I couldn't understand the hate he was getting. It was a really strong performance. a little nervous at the start but which i hadn't seen before |
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Post by The Chief on Nov 5, 2015 11:42:06 GMT -5
...Second, Liam has a great voice for the record and the first gigs. As the tour goes by he loses it and at the end sounds like he can't be arsed. Is it fatigue? Maybe. But we all know Liam's not the type to try to give 100% if he feels like giving 30. but i think at many of those 2011 gigs he was in fact giving 100%. he sounded great and most importantly was holding notes longer than he had in years. in years. pick a gig at random from 2011 and i think you'll find that more times than not this was the case. even on some nights when he wasn't at 100% vocally he still turned in the effort. and you can tell he was having a great time on stage and so was the band! in addition, listen to his studio vocals on the dgss record, and then listen to what he sounded like on some of the songs on dbtt. i think carryusall was spot on when he said he felt like he had something to prove and as fans we benefitted from it. competition is a good thing! however in stark contrast on the abbreviated BE tour he was sounding more like he did in 2008/2009, unfortunately. Oh absolutely! I'm not saying that when he sung badly was because he couldn't be arsed, just that that's how it sounded sometimes (and sometimes he actually didn't give a fuck like that 2009 iTunes gig). Especially if you look at how mad he gets when he can't reach the higher notes (I'm Outta Time comes to mind but it happened on other occasions) I think most of it has to do with straining his voice. On record and on the first gigs, he sounds great but then it goes downwards. BE and its first gigs (especially the acoustic ones) show how good he can be given he didn't double his voice on the record and how soft he sung on those acoustic gigs. But on stage he usually screams and I think with time his voice gets tired which is normal. He should try other techniques but then again I don't think he's into that. So Liam will keep on being Liam. |
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Post by nutsngum on Nov 12, 2015 22:49:56 GMT -5
Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the material on that tour, Liam's voice was the best it had been for 10 years in 2011.
That Millionaire video from Empress Ballroom is the audio from that radio session they recorded in the studio and sent out to radio stations across the world, I'm afraid. He does sound pretty decent when they do Wigwam at that gig though.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 13, 2015 0:22:31 GMT -5
The fact that people feel like they should make a thread like this says enough, doesn't it.
"Liam had a few alright moments". That sounds so sad. I wish it would've been more than just a few times he sounded "good".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 3:19:14 GMT -5
He sounded good until 2002. There are not any threads like this about Noels voice in the early days
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 13, 2015 6:54:42 GMT -5
The fact that people feel like they should make a thread like this says enough, doesn't it. "Liam had a few alright moments". That sounds so sad. I wish it would've been more than just a few times he sounded "good". I wouldn't say so, I think people feel the need to make a thread like this because of the massive hammering Liam gets on here which is by no means replicated off this forum. I'd disagree with the 'few alright moments', the acoustic gigs were good, the UK tour from what I've listened to sounds good throughout, there were a few shockers but I think Liam found some consistancy. I think there were more good nights than awful ones on both of Beady Eye's tours tbh. So due to people being so quick to rip him apart its always good to have a reminder that really over the course of a whole tour he was wasn't as bad as some would ahve you believe. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 13, 2015 9:04:58 GMT -5
good or bad or right or wrong - his voice changed a lot through the years.
it's what people hates... or appreciates. simple as that
I was listening to this from 2002 (posted by forum member frjdoasis) and thought it was still amazing.. at the end of the video Some Might Say from 95 came out and it was very different.
only 2005-2006 and 2009 (2008 was good) I'm having problems with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 10:09:06 GMT -5
Absolutely Liam T his best is in my all time short list of great singers , at the top IMO but I am biased obviously
I look at music a lot in sports terms as many know , to me Liam is and was like some all time great athletes who at there best were as good as or at least on par with anyone who ever played
Robbie fowler. Had a 5 year run of scoring and the way he scored that took most people's breath away. Why he is GOD ....BUT Injuries TOOK ITS TOLL and he was only able to manage glimpses of that form after that
John McEnroe. Won 6 of his 7 majors between 80-84 took a break and only every now and again showed the form of vintage Mac
Gayle Sayers. Many consider the best running back they ever saw including Jim brown. But he only was healthy for four years and only occasionally could show those bursts after that
There are so many other examples , Bobby Orr of course in hockey , point is that's why still go to his gigs or will buy his work. We KNOW it will never sound like 96 all the time , maybe never , but there is alwYs that chance that for one gig. Or one or two songs on a record you close your eyes and think it 97 again. Why he is so special
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 13, 2015 15:45:02 GMT -5
Absolutely Liam T his best is in my all time short list of great singers , at the top IMO but I am biased obviously I look at music a lot in sports terms as many know , to me Liam is and was like some all time great athletes who at there best were as good as or at least on par with anyone who ever played Robbie fowler. Had a 5 year run of scoring and the way he scored that took most people's breath away. Why he is GOD ....BUT Injuries TOOK ITS TOLL and he was only able to manage glimpses of that form after that John McEnroe. Won 6 of his 7 majors between 80-84 took a break and only every now and again showed the form of vintage Mac Gayle Sayers. Many consider the best running back they ever saw including Jim brown. But he only was healthy for four years and only occasionally could show those bursts after that There are so many other examples , Bobby Orr of course in hockey , point is that's why still go to his gigs or will buy his work. We KNOW it will never sound like 96 all the time , maybe never , but there is alwYs that chance that for one gig. Or one or two songs on a record you close your eyes and think it 97 again. Why he is so special Even though I'm a Toffee I'll admit I laughed when I watched this on MOTD  Agree with your point as well- It was only temporarily the best Rock n' Roll voice, but WHAT a voice!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 16:08:24 GMT -5
Absolutely Liam T his best is in my all time short list of great singers , at the top IMO but I am biased obviously I look at music a lot in sports terms as many know , to me Liam is and was like some all time great athletes who at there best were as good as or at least on par with anyone who ever played Robbie fowler. Had a 5 year run of scoring and the way he scored that took most people's breath away. Why he is GOD ....BUT Injuries TOOK ITS TOLL and he was only able to manage glimpses of that form after that John McEnroe. Won 6 of his 7 majors between 80-84 took a break and only every now and again showed the form of vintage Mac Gayle Sayers. Many consider the best running back they ever saw including Jim brown. But he only was healthy for four years and only occasionally could show those bursts after that There are so many other examples , Bobby Orr of course in hockey , point is that's why still go to his gigs or will buy his work. We KNOW it will never sound like 96 all the time , maybe never , but there is alwYs that chance that for one gig. Or one or two songs on a record you close your eyes and think it 97 again. Why he is so special Even though I'm a Toffee I'll admit I laughed when I watched this on MOTD Agree with your point as well- It was only temporarily the best Rock n' Roll voice, but WHAT a voice!  remember it well !!!!!!! Loved it cheers ! |
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 13, 2015 16:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 17:04:02 GMT -5
Well first off that version of The Morning Son isn't that great. He's on tune but that's pretty much it. Second, Liam has a great voice for the record and the first gigs. As the tour goes by he loses it and at the end sounds like he can't be arsed. Is it fatigue? Maybe. But we all know Liam's not the type to try to give 100% if he feels like giving 30. A great song from NOFX that lyrically could easily apply to Liam Nice, I like NOFX. Like this tune: |
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remember it well !!!!!!! Loved it 
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