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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2017 9:09:56 GMT -5
Self Portrait is a gorgeous album. I'd kill for Noel to put his balls on the line and release something half as daring as that. Whoa. A gorgeous album......we have very different takes on gorgeous... What is this shit? Self Portrait might not be a good album but the bootleg series "Another Self Portrait" is fantastic. Highly recommend checking it out.  |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 27, 2017 9:18:17 GMT -5
I'm not counting cover albums  Look, Radiohead, since Oasis broke up has released 1 album. No one is clamoring for them to be more like Dylan. In the end, it's no large feat for Dylan to pump out cover albums. Hell, it took Bowie took 10 years to release an album, and at his creative peak he had Brian Eno helping him pump out albums. Besides, if you have to compare Noel to the greatest artists of anyone's generation to call him lazy for releasing 10 albums in less than 25 years, then oh well. Not everyone is Dylan or Neil Young. And for good reason. You're making a flawed comparison. Say he's not adventurous enough, sure. But he's releasing albums at probably 99.9% of artists' normal clips/rates. By Age 42-49: - Young 7 albums - Dylan 6 albums - Bowie 3 albums And my original point was that Noel doesn't have that creative drive like Dylan or Young have, his big heroes. These guys are constantly pumping out music and have done such all their life. They are musicians and musicians make music according to Neil and Bob. I just wish Noel had more gumption in this respect. I know it's never gonna happen. Could have with AA but didn't. Radiohead fans always clamor. Always. They've got a box of unused songs that blows away the stuff Noel has been sitting on for a decade. It makes us fans so fucking mad all the time. Unleash Lift, Big Boots, Follow Me Around, etc. Yes, we're comparing Neil Young/Bob Dylan/David Bowie to someone. How could any artist ever fail? Seriosuly. We're talking about the greatest artists of all time. You don't see something off with that comparison? 10 albums in less than 25 years is a perfectly respectable clip. That's an album and tour almost constantly for a man with a family. Like I'm not begrudging a guy for spending time with his family. Noel clearly likes being with his family and is able to balance a more than respectable average of album releases. I just don't see the "laziness" and lack of "drive." Especially when it's compared to the greatest artists of all time. But mostly it feels like you're arguing for Noel to push himself creatively in the type of music he does, not how much music he does. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 27, 2017 10:07:27 GMT -5
By Age 42-49: - Young 7 albums - Dylan 6 albums - Bowie 3 albums And my original point was that Noel doesn't have that creative drive like Dylan or Young have, his big heroes. These guys are constantly pumping out music and have done such all their life. They are musicians and musicians make music according to Neil and Bob. I just wish Noel had more gumption in this respect. I know it's never gonna happen. Could have with AA but didn't. Radiohead fans always clamor. Always. They've got a box of unused songs that blows away the stuff Noel has been sitting on for a decade. It makes us fans so fucking mad all the time. Unleash Lift, Big Boots, Follow Me Around, etc. Yes, we're comparing Neil Young/Bob Dylan/David Bowie to someone. How could any artist ever fail? Seriosuly. We're talking about the greatest artists of all time. You don't see something off with that comparison? 10 albums in less than 25 years is a perfectly respectable clip. That's an album and tour almost constantly for a man with a family. Like I'm not begrudging a guy for spending time with his family. Noel clearly likes being with his family and is able to balance a more than respectable average of album releases. I just don't see the "laziness" and lack of "drive." Especially when it's compared to the greatest artists of all time. But mostly it feels like you're arguing for Noel to push himself creatively in the type of music he does, not how much music he does. Noel places himself amongst those people mentioned so he should definitely be compared to them. As a songwriter he is on par with them I think. As a creative guy looking to make real art he falls way short as he doesn't have the balls to push boundaries OR open up with his lyrics in my opinion. When these 2 things come together you open up the possibility of creating era defining albums. |
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Post by chamu on Feb 27, 2017 10:17:26 GMT -5
2017 and we are still arguing if Noel Gallagher is a lazy man....c´moooon, even he has a song talking about it!!!"the importance of being idle"
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 27, 2017 11:07:37 GMT -5
Yes, we're comparing Neil Young/Bob Dylan/David Bowie to someone. How could any artist ever fail? Seriosuly. We're talking about the greatest artists of all time. You don't see something off with that comparison? 10 albums in less than 25 years is a perfectly respectable clip. That's an album and tour almost constantly for a man with a family. Like I'm not begrudging a guy for spending time with his family. Noel clearly likes being with his family and is able to balance a more than respectable average of album releases. I just don't see the "laziness" and lack of "drive." Especially when it's compared to the greatest artists of all time. But mostly it feels like you're arguing for Noel to push himself creatively in the type of music he does, not how much music he does. Noel places himself amongst those people mentioned so he should definitely be compared to them. As a songwriter he is on par with them I think. As a creative guy looking to make real art he falls way short as he doesn't have the balls to push boundaries OR open up with his lyrics in my opinion. When these 2 things come together you open up the possibility of creating era defining albums. Noel may place himself among them, but the general public sure doesn't, and neither do I. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 27, 2017 15:04:54 GMT -5
By Age 42-49: - Young 7 albums - Dylan 6 albums - Bowie 3 albums And my original point was that Noel doesn't have that creative drive like Dylan or Young have, his big heroes. These guys are constantly pumping out music and have done such all their life. They are musicians and musicians make music according to Neil and Bob. I just wish Noel had more gumption in this respect. I know it's never gonna happen. Could have with AA but didn't. Radiohead fans always clamor. Always. They've got a box of unused songs that blows away the stuff Noel has been sitting on for a decade. It makes us fans so fucking mad all the time. Unleash Lift, Big Boots, Follow Me Around, etc. Yes, we're comparing Neil Young/Bob Dylan/David Bowie to someone. How could any artist ever fail? Seriosuly. We're talking about the greatest artists of all time. You don't see something off with that comparison? 10 albums in less than 25 years is a perfectly respectable clip. That's an album and tour almost constantly for a man with a family. Like I'm not begrudging a guy for spending time with his family. Noel clearly likes being with his family and is able to balance a more than respectable average of album releases. I just don't see the "laziness" and lack of "drive." Especially when it's compared to the greatest artists of all time. But mostly it feels like you're arguing for Noel to push himself creatively in the type of music he does, not how much music he does. I'm not being completely serious. Just an observation and remark. I wouldn't mind more Noel material. He's in a good place and I don't assume the more he does the worse the product. I'm an optimist despite being let down so many times by him. |
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Post by cloudburster on Feb 28, 2017 18:18:56 GMT -5
Does anyone actually know why Noel's label only releases his albums in October and March? Is it arbitrary or is there a reason?
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 28, 2017 19:05:32 GMT -5
Does anyone actually know why Noel's label only releases his albums in October and March? Is it arbitrary or is there a reason? It's not arbitrary, AFAIK this kind of music just sells better in those months. November/December/January are out because you don't want to get too close to Christmas, that's for sure. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 21, 2017 11:07:46 GMT -5
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 21, 2017 11:09:49 GMT -5
In case someone thought they might be recording for some other project, notice the guitar on the picture.
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Post by carlober on Mar 21, 2017 11:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 21, 2017 12:09:43 GMT -5
In case someone thought they might be recording for some other project, notice the guitar on the picture. Is it one of Noel's? |
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Post by carlober on Mar 21, 2017 12:33:38 GMT -5
In case someone thought they might be recording for some other project, notice the guitar on the picture. Is it one of Noel's? Yup, you can see it in this Instagram post from a few months ago: http://instagr.am/p/BK_O3hEju0i And here is the geeky info I wrote at the time  Some bits of useless info about that Instagram post: 1) the amp is a Fender Twin Reverb, famous for its great "clean" guitar tones (Johnny Marr used it a lot when he was in The Smiths and he still uses it today). 2) The guitar is new- ish, too. I bet he bought it during last year's US tour in May, as he used it only once at the NY Randall Island gig ( video here), as far as I know. It's a Nash JM-63, a super-expensive handcrafted version of a Fender Jazzmaster (by the way he seems to love those Nash instruments, in the last years he bought a Tele model, a Strat, this Jazzmaster and the Tele/Jazz hybrid which he used for ITHOTM at recent gigs). What's interesting is that the Jazzmaster isn't really one of Noel's traditional guitars. I mean, it's more a shoegaze/post-rock kind of guitar. When I see one I always think of Kevin Shields from My Bloody Valentine. Could it be that Noel is really getting more ambitious and eclectic with this album? 3) I don't have a clue about the shoes  |
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2017 12:36:22 GMT -5
I wonder if all three will be on the same track.
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Post by matt on Mar 21, 2017 15:52:46 GMT -5
Nice find! I'm certainly not complaining about more Marr guitar on there, but intriguingly, is that Paul Weller on the right? There was also that picture of that multi-instrumentalist who has played with some big artists in the past pictured with Noel (cannot remember who he was though). I've got high hopes that this album will be very textured and sonically interesting as opposed to the stodginess of Noel's work for the past god knows how many years now. Surely he CANNOT fuck up with world class producer like Holmes and all these talented instrumentalists. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 21, 2017 16:01:28 GMT -5
^
Also thought the right one was Weller.
Well, good production work is nice, but I hope the songs are there too. Anyway, I'm intrigued and looking forward to it, however long it may still take.
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Post by willc on Mar 21, 2017 16:06:58 GMT -5
Nice find! I'm certainly not complaining about more Marr guitar on there, but intriguingly, is that Paul Weller on the right? There was also that picture of that multi-instrumentalist who has played with some big artists in the past pictured with Noel (cannot remember who he was though). I've got high hopes that this album will be very textured and sonically interesting as opposed to the stodginess of Noel's work for the past god knows how many years now. Surely he CANNOT fuck up with world class producer like Holmes and all these talented instrumentalists. This is Noel, are you sure? |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 21, 2017 16:11:08 GMT -5
Nice find! I'm certainly not complaining about more Marr guitar on there, but intriguingly, is that Paul Weller on the right? There was also that picture of that multi-instrumentalist who has played with some big artists in the past pictured with Noel (cannot remember who he was though). I've got high hopes that this album will be very textured and sonically interesting as opposed to the stodginess of Noel's work for the past god knows how many years now. Surely he CANNOT fuck up with world class producer like Holmes and all these talented instrumentalists. That is Weller indeed, which makes me very excited about the album since it seems everytime him and Noel collaborate on something the output is very good to great. Noel is in good hands here. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 21, 2017 16:11:28 GMT -5
Don't blow this Noel!
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 21, 2017 17:16:33 GMT -5
I wonder if all three will be on the same track. The Smiths, the Jam, Oasis on one song? It could never live up to the hype Great find anyway, loved Marr on BOTMI, and Weller is always class. Doesn't say anything about when we should get a release, of course - Noel has taken half year breaks after finishing material before. |
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2017 18:28:57 GMT -5
If Noel wants to be finished with mixing and mastering by glastonbury, then he'll have to be finished recording within the month, considering that both will most likely take up to a month and a half.
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Post by matt on Mar 21, 2017 19:44:20 GMT -5
If Noel wants to be finished with mixing and mastering by glastonbury, then he'll have to be finished recording within the month, considering that both will most likely take up to a month and a half. Who knows - like Ballad of the Mighty I, the vocals and track may have been completed, and Marr was only in the studio to do his part on that song for one day. Perhaps Weller and Marr have been brought in to do just that and add additional decoration to fully formed tunes. |
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Post by bestwick8 on Mar 21, 2017 19:48:12 GMT -5
So this will probably mean October release. With a single in late July or august.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2017 20:11:42 GMT -5
If Noel wants to be finished with mixing and mastering by glastonbury, then he'll have to be finished recording within the month, considering that both will most likely take up to a month and a half. Who knows - like Ballad of the Mighty I, the vocals and track may have been completed, and Marr was only in the studio to do his part on that song for one day. Perhaps Weller and Marr have been brought in to do just that and add additional decoration to fully formed tunes. We'll yea, it's difficult to know where he is on recording considering he's writing every track in the studio. This could be 8th, 9th, or 10th song on the album. Or they could be doubling back to an earlier track. But he will have to finish recording in the next month in order to be finished with mixing and mastering by June. |
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2017 16:25:53 GMT -5
Did I miss the news reports that Weller has died but come back as a keyboard playing zombie!? |
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