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Post by andymorris on Nov 15, 2017 11:57:22 GMT -5
Piracy culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it.
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Post by revol on Nov 15, 2017 12:01:58 GMT -5
Leak culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. And only a few years back it seemed unstoppable. If it was 2010 we'd already have the leak. I'm actually very glad we don't. |
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Post by supernovastar94 on Nov 15, 2017 12:03:09 GMT -5
Which Oasis album leaked the earliest? HC right?
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 15, 2017 12:10:14 GMT -5
Which Oasis album leaked the earliest? HC right? Yeah that was a couple of months before, at least. It was that early that a couple of songs on the leak weren't even the finished mix i think. Little By Little might have been one of them. I think the leak being so early (unfinished) lead people to believe it was someone in the inner circle that leaked it, which is probably right. Many said it was Alan White that leaked it but i can't imagine he would have remained in the band for another 2 years if that was the case. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 15, 2017 12:10:39 GMT -5
Leak culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. And only a few years back it seemed unstoppable. If it was 2010 we'd already have the leak. I'm actually very glad we don't. Yeah in 2010 or in 2005 it would have leaked in september  . Gotta say it was exciting back then, the hunt... etc But I'm also glad this time we are not tempted, it's been a long time since i'm gonna listen to an "Oasis" record that way. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 15, 2017 12:12:21 GMT -5
Which Oasis album leaked the earliest? HC right? Yeah that was a couple of months before, at least. It was that early that a couple of songs on the leak weren't even the finished mix i think. Little By Little might have been one of them. I think the leak being so early (unfinished) lead people to believe it was someone in the inner circle that leaked it, which is probably right. Many said it was Alan White that leaked it but i can't imagine he would have remained in the band for another 2 years if that was the case. Songbird and Scyho leaked in april 2002, with Better Man and Little by Little early mixes. They were shitty rips though. The proper album leaked early june 2002. |
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Post by GreedyTune on Nov 15, 2017 12:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 15, 2017 12:19:32 GMT -5
Piracy culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. Also, promo copies and who gets to hear it are under tighter security these days and watermarked too. They're not just sending promo copies out willy nilly a month before release to any old reviewer anymore. These days you're more likely to get a leak when the commercial releases are ready to be distributed and it slips through the net somewhere in the process. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 15, 2017 12:23:46 GMT -5
Piracy culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. I’m not just talking new album leaks. It goes for all albums. You can find literally every album in two seconds. Same as signing into Spotify and searching for a song. Maybe the new generation is just too lazy to do anything or even own/store music. Who knows. |
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Post by mossy on Nov 15, 2017 12:32:46 GMT -5
Piracy culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. I’m not just talking new album leaks. It goes for all albums. You can find literally every album in two seconds. Same as signing into Spotify and searching for a song. Maybe the new generation is just too lazy to do anything or even own/store music. Who knows. The high quality user experience of free/low cost streaming sites simply makes it more attractive than piracy for a lot of people now. Plus they avoid the eye-bleeding porn adverts. X |
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Post by revol on Nov 15, 2017 12:42:41 GMT -5
Also...
Now that Gem is back with Noel, where is THE RIDDLER?
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Nov 15, 2017 12:45:01 GMT -5
Also... Now that Gem is back with Noel, where is THE RIDDLER? Do not worry men, sources say the leak is imminent |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 15, 2017 13:06:11 GMT -5
Piracy culture is clearly on the decline. the Younger generation cant be bothered, numbers are showing piracy is declining. It's a 30/40 something phenomenon, so it still exists. But with Netflix, Spotify that lowered culture costs, and mobile use of the internet, leaks are not that damaging anymore. + most of the records leak H-24 before release, so people that are very interested have already pre ordered it. I’m not just talking new album leaks. It goes for all albums. You can find literally every album in two seconds. Same as signing into Spotify and searching for a song. Maybe the new generation is just too lazy to do anything or even own/store music. Who knows. Well the As You Were leak showed it's not that easy. Many people on here even were lost on how to find it / download it. Dont underestimate the googling skill, it's a skill. People don't know how to use google. I dont know if the younger generation is lazy, but piracy requires time and dedication, and the proper equipement. As i said, mobile usage is now the common usage of the internet, Google is moving its results index to mobile first. So piracy is for nerds (like us) and the older generation who still use a laptop for everything. We 30s something people have grown with it, the 15 / 20 year old have not. It's not part of their culture. There is also, as you said, the owning part of music. Music is now another post, another youtube or spotify link. It's not as valued as much as it used to. The money has clearly shifted to live performance, the rise in ticket prices is a sign of that. Therefore i suppose there's less envy to try and find music as soon as possible. When something is fed to you, with bother looking for it ? |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 15, 2017 13:06:38 GMT -5
Also... Now that Gem is back with Noel, where is THE RIDDLER? It seems he divorced her |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 15, 2017 14:17:30 GMT -5
Quality..? Have you heard Holy Mountain with headphones? As much as I love Noel I gotta admit that the production is complete rubbish. The same thing was said on As You Were and the leak quality was perfect As You Were wasn’t “leak” quality, it was a retail CD that was ripped in a decent 320kbps mp3 quality a matter of days before the official release. If you’ve bought Holy Mountain from iTunes, Juno Download or any other download store in whatever format then that is how Noel Gallagher intended for you to hear it. If you are happy listening to a shitey 128kbps stream which has been re-encoded over the proper vinyl, CD or stream then that’s up to you but you can’t complain about production when it’s a shite version that’s been uploaded in the first place. I will also point out that the official Wall of Glass download was distorted as fuck, however the album version was much better so again using production doesn’t sit right, it was how it was mastered so again it’s better to listen to the album itself as Noel intends. Wall Of Glass sounds the same in the video and in the first leak I downloaded. Holy Mountain sounds bad in the video,in Spotify,in the download...it has a terrible production. Jeez I consider myself a 'Noelist' but these days seems like anything makes everyone jump. Almost everyone here will listen to this album when it leaks. Don't tell me how Noel wants me to hear it because Noel doesn't a single fuck. Just take a look at the management behind the albums marketing. Its complete rubbish. And if people cant get over that music will be download it for free,I'm sorry. Go back to the 90s. In my case I will listen to the leak and then the album when arrives because I already bought it. But don't tell me how should I listen to music or how I shouldn't. |
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Post by Jim on Nov 15, 2017 15:18:30 GMT -5
As You Were wasn’t “leak” quality, it was a retail CD that was ripped in a decent 320kbps mp3 quality a matter of days before the official release. If you’ve bought Holy Mountain from iTunes, Juno Download or any other download store in whatever format then that is how Noel Gallagher intended for you to hear it. If you are happy listening to a shitey 128kbps stream which has been re-encoded over the proper vinyl, CD or stream then that’s up to you but you can’t complain about production when it’s a shite version that’s been uploaded in the first place. I will also point out that the official Wall of Glass download was distorted as fuck, however the album version was much better so again using production doesn’t sit right, it was how it was mastered so again it’s better to listen to the album itself as Noel intends. Wall Of Glass sounds the same in the video and in the first leak I downloaded. Holy Mountain sounds bad in the video,in Spotify,in the download...it has a terrible production. Jeez I consider myself a 'Noelist' but these days seems like anything makes everyone jump. Almost everyone here will listen to this album when it leaks. Don't tell me how Noel wants me to hear it because Noel doesn't a single fuck. Just take a look at the management behind the albums marketing. Its complete rubbish. And if people cant get over that music will be download it for free,I'm sorry. Go back to the 90s. In my case I will listen to the leak and then the album when arrives because I already bought it. But don't tell me how should I listen to music or how I shouldn't. Don’t be an arsehole, it’s just rude. I wasn’t to you so don’t be to me. I haven’t told you how to listen to music, I’ve gave my opinion on leaked music and how an artist like Noel intends for people to listen to his music. He obviously does give a fuck or he wouldn’t be releasing it. I’ll quite happily go back to the 90’s. You wouldn’t survive it because albums didn’t leak and fans appreciated proper hype. Try queuing up for hours in the morning for an album coming out or for buying tickets then you can be condescending to me. Wasn’t for fans like me back then, you wouldn’t be listening to Noel today. |
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Post by potato on Nov 15, 2017 15:28:01 GMT -5
Track times are on iTunes
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Post by Thomas on Nov 15, 2017 15:29:46 GMT -5
Track times are on iTunes We've had them since the day the album was announced. It's been on the Netherlands iTunes forever. |
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Post by potato on Nov 15, 2017 15:31:06 GMT -5
Track times are on iTunes We've had them since the day the album was announced. It's been on the Netherlands iTunes forever. Didn’t make the World Cup though did ya 🤣😂🤣 |
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Post by Thomas on Nov 15, 2017 15:32:52 GMT -5
We've had them since the day the album was announced. It's been on the Netherlands iTunes forever. Didn’t make the World Cup though did ya 🤣😂🤣 I'm Brazilian. So yes, I did.  |
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Post by potato on Nov 15, 2017 15:33:56 GMT -5
Track times are on iTunes We've had them since the day the album was announced. It's been on the Netherlands iTunes forever. My point was they were not there and now they are in the UK. Would this mean anything? |
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Post by potato on Nov 15, 2017 15:34:21 GMT -5
Didn’t make the World Cup though did ya 🤣😂🤣 I'm Brazilian. So yes, I did. Touché |
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Post by Thomas on Nov 15, 2017 15:35:26 GMT -5
We've had them since the day the album was announced. It's been on the Netherlands iTunes forever. My point was they were not there and now they are in the UK. Would this mean anything? It means the album's coming out in a week  For real, I have no idea. It's weird we haven't got It's A Beautiful World yet. |
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Post by matt on Nov 15, 2017 15:56:12 GMT -5
Quality..? Have you heard Holy Mountain with headphones? As much as I love Noel I gotta admit that the production is complete rubbish. The same thing was said on As You Were and the leak quality was perfect The wall of noise on HM looks to be intentional. For all NG slates the sound of BHN, he has resurrected it here with this track. Exactly, it has the Phil Spector wall of sound style to it. Completely intentional, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Of course, people will scoff at your Be Here Now suggestion, but I totally understand. The song isn't like anything from Be Here Now, but the spirit is there. The chaos and euphoria I totally get. |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 15, 2017 16:01:26 GMT -5
Wall Of Glass sounds the same in the video and in the first leak I downloaded. Holy Mountain sounds bad in the video,in Spotify,in the download...it has a terrible production. Jeez I consider myself a 'Noelist' but these days seems like anything makes everyone jump. Almost everyone here will listen to this album when it leaks. Don't tell me how Noel wants me to hear it because Noel doesn't a single fuck. Just take a look at the management behind the albums marketing. Its complete rubbish. And if people cant get over that music will be download it for free,I'm sorry. Go back to the 90s. In my case I will listen to the leak and then the album when arrives because I already bought it. But don't tell me how should I listen to music or how I shouldn't. Don’t be an arsehole, it’s just rude. I wasn’t to you so don’t be to me. I haven’t told you how to listen to music, I’ve gave my opinion on leaked music and how an artist like Noel intends for people to listen to his music. He obviously does give a fuck or he wouldn’t be releasing it. I’ll quite happily go back to the 90’s. You wouldn’t survive it because albums didn’t leak and fans appreciated proper hype. Try queuing up for hours in the morning for an album coming out or for buying tickets then you can be condescending to me. Wasn’t for fans like me back then, you wouldn’t be listening to Noel today. Didn't mean to sound rude mate. I'm just a bit tired of some Noel fans waiting with their teeth out and when someone says something bad about him just jump right in. And of course I would've loved to live something like that. I just imagine waiting on queue and feeling the excitement. And a place full of people that are there for the same reason. Sounds absolutely beautiful to me. But times change,and now we can't run away from music leaks. The way I do things now is just download the leak and if I like what I hear I happily buy the album. Except for the case of the Gallagher releases,which I know I will love. I even find myself enjoying HC and DGSS sometimes. That's why I got the Oasis logo tattoo in my arm lol because I love every Gallagher release. But I can't wait 2 weeks until I got the album in my hands reading all the reviews and posts about something I've been waiting for 2 years. (Yes,some might say that if I can wait 2 years then I can wait 2 weeks but I'm an impatient little fuck). So as I said,sorry for the missunderstood mate,didn't want to sound rude. We're all here for the same reason,so peace and love! |
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