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Post by mkoasis on Oct 11, 2015 14:01:38 GMT -5
Prepare yourselves for Mortal Kombat. This will not be easy. However, you can choose 2.
My first vote goes to Some Girls are Bigger than Others. It's a weird one but I just love the guitar work and the intro fade in/out. Can't think of a better way to end the best Smiths album IMO.
Second place goes to I Won't Share You, mostly because I really love it and I feel like no one else is going to choose it.
I have no idea which song will come out first...but let's see.
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Post by matt on Oct 11, 2015 14:06:46 GMT -5
Probably Suffer Little Children. I agree about the beautiful guitar riff to Some Girls but lyrically Morrissey is on top form and Jonny Marr's guitar work is very melancholic too with Suffer Little Children.
A tough subject to deal with in song, but it's sensitivity to the topic is obvious and sincere.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 11, 2015 14:07:58 GMT -5
From the list above, Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want and Suffer Little Children. Asleep is the final track on side A of The World Won't Listen (the album closer is Golden Lights with Kirsty MacColl on backing vocal)
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 11, 2015 14:11:48 GMT -5
I'd forgotten about The World Won't Listen! I used Asleep as its the last song off Louder than Bombs which I'd thought was an updated version of The World Won't Listen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 15:40:32 GMT -5
Undoubtedly Suffer Little Children for me. Allegedly this is the first song they ever wrote together.
Morrissey's lyrics are beautifully melancholic. Given the dark and tragic subject matter, it's incredible to think how young he was when he wrote the song. Marr's guitar work is actually pretty simple when broken down. The two guitar tracks chime beautifully with each other and is as melodic as anything he's written.
Everything about the song is perfect.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 11, 2015 16:31:55 GMT -5
Undoubtedly Suffer Little Children for me. Allegedly this is the first song they ever wrote together. Morrissey's lyrics are beautifully melancholic. Given the dark and tragic subject matter, it's incredible to think how young he was when he wrote the song. Marr's guitar work is actually pretty simple when broken down. The two guitar tracks chime beautifully with each other and is as melodic as anything he's written. Everything about the song is perfect. How old was he?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 16:45:27 GMT -5
Undoubtedly Suffer Little Children for me. Allegedly this is the first song they ever wrote together. Morrissey's lyrics are beautifully melancholic. Given the dark and tragic subject matter, it's incredible to think how young he was when he wrote the song. Marr's guitar work is actually pretty simple when broken down. The two guitar tracks chime beautifully with each other and is as melodic as anything he's written. Everything about the song is perfect. How old was he? It will have been soon after he met Johnny Marr, so 22 or 23. It's not even the age he was, it's how early in his songwriting career he was able to craft songs with such mature lyrics.
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Post by carryusall on Oct 11, 2015 18:19:35 GMT -5
It will have been soon after he met Johnny Marr, so 22 or 23. It's not even the age he was, it's how early in his songwriting career he was able to craft songs with such mature lyrics. Personally I think in a lot of ways Morrissey's lyricism was never better than on this first album. He had yet to perfect some of his more ironic, satirical asides, but in terms of dealing with heavy, weighty subjects his approach worked better than it ever did later in the smiths career .
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 11, 2015 19:30:07 GMT -5
First goes to Some Girls, that's some of my favorite guitar work ever, absolutely amazing. Second goes to Please Please, that outro is gorgeous
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 12, 2015 4:47:28 GMT -5
Suffer Little Children was one of the first songs Moz and Johnny wrote together. Moz was 19 and Johnny was 15 when they met each other for the very first time at Patti Smith's gig in Manchester Apollo on 31st August 1978, but it was just briefly. It took a couple of years until they met each other again.
This song was the B-side of Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now and was played live only once.
They made a beautiful tune from a very sad, horrible tragedy.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 12, 2015 14:27:43 GMT -5
Suffer is great, but the sheer brillance of Marr's work on Some Girls is unmatched even in the Smiths catalogue in my eyes. Second would be Please Please Please which is obviously a classic (and probably the best song you could write that is less than two minutes long). Interesting enough that two of the others (Meat is Murder and I Won't Share You) are among the worst songs they've ever done.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 13, 2015 8:57:05 GMT -5
two of the others (Meat is Murder and I Won't Share You) are among the worst songs they've ever done. I disagree. Meat Is Murder might not be the nicest song they ever made, but it has a very (maybe too) strong content.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2015 13:36:23 GMT -5
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
The instrumentation, especially the outro, is utterly fantastic, and is one of my favorite Smiths moments.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 13, 2015 16:19:31 GMT -5
two of the others (Meat is Murder and I Won't Share You) are among the worst songs they've ever done. I disagree. Meat Is Murder might not be the nicest song they ever made, but it has a very (maybe too) strong content. It's not that they are bad songs - the Smiths don't have those - they just pale in comparison to the even better stuff they did imo. BTW, is it just me or does The Harsh Truth of the Camera Eye (on Kill Uncle) sound an awful lot like Meat is Murder?
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