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Oct 8, 2015 14:41:02 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Educated guesses:

D'You Know What I Mean? - 95/96
My Big Mouth - 95/96
Magic Pie - 96/97
Stand by Me - 94
I Hope, I Think, I Know - 93
The Girl in the Dirty Shirt - 93/94
Fade In-Out - 95/96
Don't Go Away – 93/94
Be Here Now – 96
All Around the World – 93
It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) – 95/96
All Around the World (Reprise) – 93 (96/97)

Stay Young - 96
Going Nowhere - 93
My Sister Lover - 96 or earlier (Verses taken from Lock All The Doors 92/93)
Angel Child - 96 or earlier
(I Got) The Fever - ?
The Fame - 96 or earlier
Flashbax - ?

Here's an update of what I now consider to be more accurate:

D'You Know What I Mean? - Started mid/late 95 and finished in early 96
My Big Mouth - Started late 95 and finished early 96
Magic Pie - Oct/Nov 96
Stand By Me - 94
I Hope, I Think, I Know - Early 96
The Girl in the Dirty Shirt - Late 94/95
Fade In-Out - June 96 at the latest
Don't Go Away – Mid/Late 93
Be Here Now – Mid 96
All Around the World – Mid 93
It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) – Possibly late 95 though early 96 is more plausible
All Around the World (Reprise) – Mid 93 (96/97)

Stay Young - June 96 at the latest
Going Nowhere - Mid 93
My Sister Lover - June 96 at the latest (The verses are taken from 'Lock All The Doors' which was written 92/early 93)
Angel Child - June 96 at the latest
(I Got) The Fever - 97 at the latest
The Fame - June 96 at the latest
Flashbax - 97 at the latest

[Unititled Instrumental] - 96/Early 97
[Untitled - "Only for the young..."] - 96/Early 97
If We Shadows - 96/Early 97

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Oct 8, 2015 14:41:02 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

If anyone knows of or finds anything to narrow things down date-wise please throw it my way. I actually plan on doing this for every Oasis song eventually but I'm just concentrating on 1991-1997 for now. I'll be sure to upload it one day but it may be in the far future. Anyway here's my workings for the Be Here Now tracks. I've excluded other songs mentioned in 1996/1997 ['New Suede Shoes', 'Slow', 'Mirrory Puddles', 'The Lost Chord' and 'God Will Never Save Your Soul'] but they'll feature in the full version uploaded in the future.

I've erred on the side of caution with the dates and would imagine that many of the 'or earlier' suffixes are unlikely apply but I've included them to be safe. I've also tried to keep any speculation to a minimum. If anyone wants to contest anything you're more than welcome to do so. Two comments I will make though are that it's difficult to categorize a track when it was written over an extended period of time and Noel (& other Oasis affiliates) aren't always the most reliable sources as there are numerous occasions where I've found quotes which are blatantly untrue. Anyway hopefully some of you may find this an interesting read!

1993

All Around the World

Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song featured in a notebook owned by Noel Gallagher in 1993. It doesn’t feature in the earliest tracklists but appears in later ones.
2) The song features in a Boardwalk rehearsal video commonly dated to 1992 however this date is believed to be incorrect. Before switching to his Epiphone Riviera Bonehead used to play a Stratocaster which can be seen in the bands performance at King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut in Glasgow on the 31st May 1993. In the Boardwalk rehearsal video Bonehead is seen playing his Epiphone Riviera so it is likely that this performance took place after the previously stated date.
3) Noel: “It's funny. 'All Around The World' is about five years old and it's the cheesiest, corniest lyrics in the world. Worse than 'Whatever'! I was listening to it the other day and it's like me being super, ninja optimistic. The Prozac must have been really kicking in when I was writing that! But we'd just signed a record deal when I wrote it, so I was feeling pretty good about the work then.” [NME - 12 July 1997]

Don’t Go Away AKA ‘Need More Time’
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was featured on a 1993 demo tape under the title ‘Need More Time’ with Noel on lead vocals.
2) The song does not feature in Noel’s 1993 notebook under any recognisable title.
3) Interviewer: “I was gonna ask you, you wrote most of the stuff for ‘Morning Glory?’ a long time before and the same with ‘Be Here Now’.” Noel: “Yeah.” Interviewer: “Just [unintelligible] your head a bit, I mean have you written… does that mean you’ve written a lot of stuff yet for the forth album now?” Noel: “No, well, [unintelligible]… usually write… a lot of the stuff on this album like ‘Stand By Me’, ‘Don’t Go Away’, ‘[The] Girl in the Dirty Shirt’, are sort of like… were written before the first album really. So I tend to write sort of like three albums at a time…” [Interview by Gil Dylan in Hong Kong - February 1998]

Going Nowhere AKA ‘Here Am I’
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song featured in a notebook owned by Noel Gallagher in 1993. It doesn’t feature in the earliest tracklists but appears in later ones.
2) Noel: “…’Going Nowhere’ is one of the better ones out of that period of time. It's actually a very, very old song, from when I was heavily into Burt Bacharach. I wrote that just after we got the record deal. I was going down to London to see [Alan] McGee - me, Liam and Bonehead, I think actually, I'm not sure if they helped out on the lyrics of that. They might have done, I can't remember.” [NME - 31 Oct / 7 Nov 1998]

1994 or Earlier

Stand By Me

Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Noel: “It starts “Made a meal and threw it up on Sunday.” When I first moved to London my mam kept on ringing up and asking was I eating properly. Yes, mam. So I tried to cook a Sunday roast and puked up for two days with food poisoning. It was back to Pot Noodle after that.” [Q Magazine - September 1997]
2) Interviewer: “I was gonna ask you, you wrote most of the stuff for ‘Morning Glory?’ a long time before and the same with ‘Be Here Now’.” Noel: “Yeah.” Interviewer: “Just [unintelligible] your head a bit, I mean have you written… does that mean you’ve written a lot of stuff yet for the forth album now?” Noel: “No, well, [unintelligible]… usually write… a lot of the stuff on this album like ‘Stand By Me’, ‘Don’t Go Away’, ‘[The] Girl in the Dirty Shirt’, are sort of like… were written before the first album really. So I tend to write sort of like three albums at a time…” [Interview by Gil Dylan in Hong Kong - February 1998]

1995 or Earlier

The Girl in the Dirty Shirt
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) On the 29th [29/12/1994], Oasis played Brighton. Before the gig, Noel went off to have a shower. Meg, who hadn’t bought a clean set of clothes, grabbed an iron and started ironing a shirt. Noel came out of the shower and said, “What the fuck are you ironing a dirty shirt for?”. “And I was so embarrassed,” Meg says, “cos you know what it’s like when you don’t really know someone. And then at the gig, he goes, “This is for the girl in the dirty shirt, she knows who she is,” and he said it twice. Coyley’s got it on tape and I was cringing.” Later, when Noel heard the tape, another spark went off in his mind. The girl with the dirty shirt, good song title that. [Paolo Hewitt - Getting High: The Adventures of Oasis - Published 15/04/1997]
2) Noel: “You guessed it. Meg is the girl in the dirty shirt. We were doing a gig in Brighton [29/12/1994], just before Meg and me were going out. She was at the hotel ironing a dirty shirt because she hadn’t brought enough clothes with her. I know it sounds a bit soft. Liam will read this and say, “You fucking wanker!” because he thinks all the songs are about him. He even thinks ‘Wonderwall’ is about him. So he’ll be telling me it’s a geezer in a dirty shirt really, except I couldn’t say that because it would look bad. The chord structure came straight from [The Beatles’] ‘Cry Baby Cry’, but I think it’s a bit like The Small Faces with the Wurlitzer at the end.” [Q Magazine - September 1997]
3) Interviewer: “I was gonna ask you, you wrote most of the stuff for ‘Morning Glory?’ a long time before and the same with ‘Be Here Now’.” Noel: “Yeah.” Interviewer: “Just [unintelligible] your head a bit, I mean have you written… does that mean you’ve written a lot of stuff yet for the forth album now?” Noel: “No, well, [unintelligible]… usually write… a lot of the stuff on this album like ‘Stand By Me’, ‘Don’t Go Away’, ‘[The] Girl in the Dirty Shirt’, are sort of like… were written before the first album really. So I tend to write sort of like three albums at a time…” [Interview by Gil Dylan in Hong Kong - February 1998]
4) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

1996 or Earlier

Angel Child
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

D’You Know What I Mean?
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Interviewer: “Did you write 'D'You Know What I Mean?' last?” Noel: "I had the chords for about a year, I kept doing it at soundchecks on the acoustic guitar, although the melody was totally different. I officially wrote it last May when I went away to nail all the songs, but I actually had it long before then.” [NME - 12/07/1997]
2) …the coach pulled up outside Whitely Bay Ice Rink. [19 January 1996] […] [Noel] went over and picked up his acoustic guitar, settled down on his stool. Everyone expected him to play a recognisable song. Instead, he started playing another new tune. The chorus sounded like a distant cousin to ‘Wonderwall’, and the chorus was riveting. “Every sound I hear is made by me-eee,” he sang. [Possibly the original chorus lyric to ‘D’You Know What I Mean?’] [Paolo Hewitt - Getting High: The Adventures of Oasis - Published 15/04/1997]
3) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

Fade In-Out
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.
2) Noel: “The scream near the end was the last bit we did. Me and Meg went back to Mustique over Christmas and I took the rough mix with me. It needed something and it was bugging me. Meg woke up one morning and there I was in bed with the Walkman on, screaming. She thought I’d gone into my drug psychotic phase - “Oh, sorry, I’m just filling in a bit of the record…”” [Q Magazine - September 1997]

The Fame
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

I Hope, I Think, I Know
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) [Soundcheck - Memorial Hall, Kansas City, USA - 23/02/1996] Inside the hall Noel walks straight to his guitar, his best friends in the world. He launches into a version of ‘Hey Now’, then plays his two new songs. The first is the four-minute track, a remarkable, tumbling love song with strong vocals from Noel and direct lyrics. The melody is astoundingly catchy and Gallagher’s songwriting prowess has risen yet further. It ends with the refrain “I’ll never forget her name” repeated three times. The second track is a rock ’n’ roll road song with a pumping, Stranglers-like bass line and more direct lyrics. It is apparently titled ‘My Big Mouth’. […] Interviewer: “I heard two new songs in the soundcheck”. Noel: “The two new songs? Erm, there’s one called ‘My Big Mouth’ - some of the people in the press will love that. Some of the lyrics go: “In my big mouth you can fly a plane.” There’s another one, but I’m not sure what the title is because I haven’t finished the lyrics. We rehearsed on Monday, the day of The Brits, because we had fuck all to do and all the band was in London. We weren’t rehearsing for anything in particular, so we just got in there. I’ve got loads of songs written and I just wanted to see what they sounded like with the band, so we done ‘em. They’re probably going to be singles, actually.” [Vox Magazine - March 1996]
2) Chris Evans: “‘My Big Mouth’, you're into that one at the moment, what’s the other one you’re into at the moment?” Noel: “It’s called ‘I Hope, I Think, I Know’.” Chris Evans: “Now you’ve been rehearsing these?” Noel: “I have indeed. They’re finished.” Chris Evans: “Are they completely orchestrated, arranged or is it just you and your guitar, the melody is there…” Noel: “‘My Big Mouth’ is completely finished, the one called ‘I Hope, I Think, I Know’ […] needs a little touching up here and there and that’s done and there’s a few others milling about.” [TFI Friday - 05/04/1996]

It’s Gettin’ Better (Man!!)
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.
2) Noel: “I actually wrote this jamming on stage with the band during the last American tour. A really happy tune even though there was a lot of shit going down. Because we get connected with The Beatles all the time I thought I’d write a Rolling Stones song instead. You can almost see Keith and Ronnie with fags in their mouths, giving it some…” [Q Magazine - September 1997]

My Big Mouth AKA ‘Me and My Big Mouth’, Possibly AKA 'New Suede Shoes'
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) On the morning of Friday, 17 November [1995], Noel and Maggie caught the train to Leicester for that night’s gig at the Granby Hall. […] Later at the soundcheck, with Liam not yet arrived, Noel started playing a new riff he had come up with. It would later grow into a song called ‘Me and My Big Mouth’. [Paolo Hewitt - Getting High: The Adventures of Oasis - Published 15/04/1997]
2) …the coach pulled up outside Whitely Bay Ice Rink [19 January 1996]. Two minutes after that, Noel was on stage playing his guitar. Guigsy, Bonehead and Whitey soon joined him. They play a new song, now entitled ‘Me and My Big Mouth’, then went into ‘Don’t Look Back In Anger’, a raw version of The Beatles’ ‘Daytripper’, then another run through ‘Don’t Look Back In Anger’. [Paolo Hewitt - Getting High: The Adventures of Oasis - Published 15/04/1997]
3) [Soundcheck at the Memorial Hall, Kansas City, USA - 23/02/1996] Inside the hall Noel walks straight to his guitar, his best friends in the world. He launches into a version of ‘Hey Now’, then plays his two new songs. The first is the four-minute track, a remarkable, tumbling love song with strong vocals from Noel and direct lyrics. The melody is astoundingly catchy and Gallagher’s songwriting prowess has risen yet further. It ends with the refrain “I’ll never forget her name” repeated three times. The second track is a rock ’n’ roll road song with a pumping, Stranglers-like bass line and more direct lyrics. It is apparently titled ‘My Big Mouth’. […] Interviewer: “I heard two new songs in the soundcheck”. Noel: “The two new songs? Erm, there’s one called ‘My Big Mouth’ - some of the people in the press will love that. Some of the lyrics go: “In my big mouth you can fly a plane.” There’s another one, but I’m not sure what the title is because I haven’t finished the lyrics. We rehearsed on Monday, the day of The Brits, because we had fuck all to do and all the band was in London. We weren’t rehearsing for anything in particular, so we just got in there. I’ve got loads of songs written and I just wanted to see what they sounded like with the band, so we done ‘em. They’re probably going to be singles, actually.” [Vox Magazine - March 1996]
4) Chris Evans: “‘My Big Mouth’, you're into that one at the moment, what’s the other one you’re into at the moment?” Noel: “It’s called ‘I Hope, I Think, I Know’.” Chris Evans: “Now you’ve been rehearsing these?” Noel: “I have indeed. They’re finished.” Chris Evans: “Are they completely orchestrated, arranged or is it just you and your guitar, the melody is there…” Noel: “‘My Big Mouth’ is completely finished, the one called ‘I Hope, I Think, I Know’ […] needs a little touching up here and there and that’s done and there’s a few others milling about.” [TFI Friday - 05/04/1996]

My Sister Lover
Successor song to ‘Lock All the Door’
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The verses to ‘My Sister Lover’ originally appeared in ‘Lock All the Doors’ an earlier composition written in 1992 or early 1993.
2) In the early days of Oasis the band shared a rehearsal space with a band called ‘The Sister Lovers’. Both bands played at King Tut’s Wah Wah Hut when Oasis were signed by Alan McGee.
3) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

Stay Young
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

1996

Be Here Now AKA ‘Trip Inside’
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Noel: “In Mustique Johnny Depp and Kate Moss stayed at Mick Jagger’s house. We were down on the beach there and there was this toy plastic piano which belonged to one of Jagger’s kids. The opening’s played on that, slowed down. I was pressing that one key for about two hours, Meg going, ‘Will you fucking shut up!’ Anyway, I nicked it – me from Burnage, I can’t help it. Mick can have it back if he wants. Then, back home, I was talking about drum loops with Owen Morris (Oasis producer) and he said one of the greatest was the opening to 'Honky Tonk Women'. We played it and it was in the same time signature as that piano. So I wrote the song from there. I liked the Stones involvement at the start and the finish of writing it.” [Q Magazine - September 1997]

Magic Pie
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Noel: “…I borrowed something from Tony Blair’s speech at the Labour Party conference last autumn [01/10/96] [“There are but a thousand days preparing for a thousand years”]. [Q Magazine - September 1997]
2) Noel: “At the time, that was like November, we was… the way the mental state was that everyone thought that was gonna be the last record we’d ever do so we might as well get recording in a couple of tunes before we, you know, before we ended up calling it a day. It was horrible there, you know, it was horrible working there. That was the worst part of doing the album. But we got… I mean we got a few good tunes out of it. I think we got ‘Stand By Me’ and ‘It’s Getting Better (Man!!)’ and um… ‘Magic Pie’ was done there. […] The reason I picked that song was because I wrote that song really, really quickly when somebody said we need a couple of b-sides for the singles that are coming up or something. So I went and wrote a song really quickly. I really like the lyrics.” [Interview with Dave Fanning - 1997]
3) Interviewer: “You started recording Be Here Now in Abbey Road studios but finished the album elsewhere…” Noel: “It was nice to be in the same room where some of the best songs ever were written. It was just nice to be there, you know. We recorded “Magic Pie” and “Stay Young” there. Then we left [prior to 18/11/1996] because there were complaints. Complaints about the noise. Can you believe that? In a recording studio? But you know, it served its purpose.” [NY Rock - December 1997]

1997 or Earlier

All Around the World (Reprise)
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Noel: ”I was running out of guitar lines so I decided to fade it in with backwards guitars. The feet clumping out at the end belong to Brain Cannon, the sleeve designer. And the door slamming, that's never been done before, of course. We got a Penny Lane piccolo trumpet in there because a guy in the brass section stood up and said, “You should have a piccolo trumpet on that - and I've got one.” So we sent him home in a taxi to fetch it. They'll all be using them soon.” [Q Magazine - September 1997]

Flashbax
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song does not feature in the Mustique Demos [Recorded June 1996].
2) Noel: “I remember being in the studio with Owen [Morris] at the back-end of ‘Be Here Now’, and him asking if I had any more tunes. Which was the cue for me making up lyrics to eight or nine songs that I'd only got the music for. One of these days I'm going to get the DAT off him and see if there's anything worth releasing.” [HotPress Magazine - 10/10/2001]

If We Shadows
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Demoed at Air Studios in early 1997.

(I Got) The Fever
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song does not feature in the Mustique Demos [Recorded June 1996].
2) Noel: “The other two, ‘(I Got) The Fever’ and err… thingy [My Sister Lover], they're the ones I like the least. That was when we were like, “Oh fuck, gotta write some B-sides”. They were just fucking bashed together, couple of chords and a chord change. Which I hate doing, because it's selling yourself short, really, and it's not fair on the people who buy the records.” [NME - 31 Oct/7 Nov 1998]
3) Noel: “I remember being in the studio with Owen [Morris] at the back-end of ‘Be Here Now’, and him asking if I had any more tunes. Which was the cue for me making up lyrics to eight or nine songs that I'd only got the music for. One of these days I'm going to get the DAT off him and see if there's anything worth releasing.” [HotPress Magazine - 10/10/2001]

[Untitled - Instrumental]
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Noel: “I remember being in the studio with Owen [Morris] at the back-end of ‘Be Here Now’, and him asking if I had any more tunes. Which was the cue for me making up lyrics to eight or nine songs that I'd only got the music for. One of these days I'm going to get the DAT off him and see if there's anything worth releasing.” [HotPress Magazine - 10/10/2001]

[Untitled - “Only for the young…”]
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Demoed at Air Studios in early 1997.

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The Crimson Rambler Very interesting stuff, thanks ! That's something I always wanted to do, a kind of Oasis 90's songwriting chronology.
For some reasons, I thought before that "Going Nowhere" was written around 1990.

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Jan 2, 2019 21:10:22 GMT -5 lubeck said:

Cheers pal! I think most people believe 'Going Nowhere' being written ~1990 to be the case as it's based on a genuine Noel quote. It would be very striking if true, which is why lots of people probably remember it, but let's just say Noel's exaggerates a little bit sometimes. When you think about it Noel was writing stuff like 'Columbia' (as an instrumental), 'See the Sun', 'Colour My Life', 'Arkayla' (I Will Show You), 'Must Be the Music' and 'Snakebite' around this time. It not the best fit is it? In 1993 though Noel was writing stuff like 'All Around the World', 'Don't Go Away', 'Half the World Away', 'Rockin' Chair', 'She's Electric' amongst others. This is much more believable and coincides with the evidence given.

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Jan 2, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

I've excluded other songs mentioned in 1996/1997 ['New Suede Shoes', 'Slow', 'Mirrory Puddles', 'The Lost Chord' and 'God Will Never Save Your Soul'] but they'll feature in the full version uploaded in the future.

Amazing work! Did you ever post an updated thread?

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Jun 14, 2021 10:39:21 GMT -5 quantum said:

Jan 2, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Amazing work! Did you ever post an updated thread?

Cheers but nah, unfortunately and predictably I never got around to it. When you start digging and being so comprehensive you realize there's fucking loads of stuff (mainly from them 2 notebooks from 93 & 94). I've made loads of notes but I've yet to sort them all. One day maybe.

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Jan 2, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Jan 2, 2019 11:54:18 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

1993

All Around the World

1994 or Earlier

Stand By Me

1995 or Earlier

1996 or Earlier

Angel Child
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

The Fame
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

Stay Young
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was demoed in Mustique, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines in June 1996.

1996

1997 or Earlier

If We Shadows
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Demoed at Air Studios in early 1997.

[Untitled - “Only for the young…”]
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) Demoed at Air Studios in early 1997.

In reference to the 1993 demo tape which this post indicates an early 'Don't Go Away` is on. Is there any reference of this tape either picture or sound as it would be interesting to hear a version of DGA pre the club quattro soundcheck in 1994

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Feb 6, 2023 16:24:48 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Jan 2, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Don’t Go Away AKA ‘Need More Time’
Written by: Noel Gallagher
References:
1) The song was featured on a 1993 demo tape under the title ‘Need More Time’ with Noel on lead vocals.

Here's the image of the tape. It's in the possession of Brian Garcia and unfortunately isn't available to listen to. Most of what's on here will be demos we've already got but there's definitely some unique recordings here. 'Need More Time' (confirmed to be 'Don't Go Away' and not 'She's Electric'), Noel on 'Married With Children', some high quality versions of the "Whatever Demos", maybe some alternative recordings...

It's a very weird tape. It's from late 1993 ('Shakermaker' was written early/mid September) yet it contains 'Take Me' and 'See the Sun'.

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 2:32:33 GMT -5 via mobile

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Feb 7, 2023 9:27:07 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:24:48 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Thank you, this is probably the most interesting period in Oasis' history. At this point Noel probably thought what would be the 3rd album would do what morning glory did

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 4:07:56 GMT -5

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Feb 8, 2023 2:32:33 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Feb 7, 2023 9:27:07 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Thank you, this is probably the most interesting period in Oasis' history. At this point Noel probably thought what would be the 3rd album would do what morning glory did

Wouldn't he be be 100% focused on the 1st album? I know he's got all these tracks in the bag, but you've got to make the 1st album a success otherwise you might not get a 2nd album.

I don't really follow the history of any other band, but I assume it's odd to have so many tracks in the bag. I always imagined any band would have a few tucked away, but most of the next album would be written after getting the last album out? No?

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5 underneaththesky, oasisunited, and 2 more like this

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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 8, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5

Feb 8, 2023 4:07:56 GMT -5 quantum said:

Feb 8, 2023 2:32:33 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Thank you, this is probably the most interesting period in Oasis' history. At this point Noel probably thought what would be the 3rd album would do what morning glory did

Looking through Noel's notebooks I think he is very much focused on the band's debut (singles + b-sides) but having so many good songs at his disposal I think he's beginning to think ahead, see how much gas is currently in the tank for a follow up and what seeing how it's theoretically shaping up already. He's possibly doing it just for kicks as much as planning.

Oasis LP#2 [As written by Noel sometime between Sep - early Dec 1993]
1) Hello
2) New Stones [Unknown song. AKA as 'Beret']
3) Rockin' Chair
4) She's Electric
5) Going Nowhere [Listed as 'Here Am I']
6) Stay Young
7) Being a Blue [This song turned into 'Acquiesce']
8) Everything's Alright [Unknown song. Speculated working title to 'Step Out' as it rips Stevie Wonder's song of the same name]
9) Yours Is Mine [Unknown song. Lyric sheet available]
10) All Around the World

Oasis LP#2 [As written by Noel prior to early Oct 1994]
1) Whatever
2) Hey Now [Listed as 'Feel No Shame']
3) Step Out
4) Some Might Say
5) Hello
6) Going Nowhere
7) Rockin’ Chair
8) My Sister Lover
9) Roll With It
10) On + On [Unknown song. Lyric sheet available]

Oasis LP#2 [As written by Noel sometime between early Nov 94 - Mar 95]
1) Hello
2) Step Out
3) Rockin’ Chair
4) Roll With It
5) Talk Tonight
6) Some Might Say
7) She’s Electric
8) My Sister Lover
9) Morning Glory
10) Champagne Supernova
Whatever

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 11:46:36 GMT -5 via mobile

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Feb 8, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Feb 8, 2023 4:07:56 GMT -5 quantum said:

Very interesting, Though I do still think everything in 95 and 96 took noel by suprise and by the time we get to late 97 you can see how frazzled he really was as a songwriter

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 12:29:43 GMT -5 asimarx likes this

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Feb 8, 2023 11:46:36 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Feb 8, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

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Very interesting, Though I do still think everything in 95 and 96 took noel by suprise and by the time we get to late 97 you can see how frazzled he really was as a songwriter

I think between late 92 and Aug 95 (basically between writing the earliest DM tracks and 'The Masterplan') that was when Noel was on his A-game. He wrote some very good songs after then ('DYKWIM? being the next in early 96) but he very obviously wasn't the same after that time period. If I were to line up everything Noel wrote after Aug 96 chronologically I'd say he's been relatively consistent since then. What is an interesting discussion point is why did he lose this ability and IMO even more interesting, how did he gain this ability so quickly after writing such mediocre stuff like 'See the Sun', 'Must Be the Music', 'Colour My Life' etc. only about a year or so earlier.

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When did Noel write Be Here Now? Feb 8, 2023 16:56:45 GMT -5 via mobile

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Feb 8, 2023 12:29:43 GMT -5 The Crimson Rambler said:

Feb 8, 2023 11:46:36 GMT -5 celestialsunrise03 said:

Very interesting, Though I do still think everything in 95 and 96 took noel by suprise and by the time we get to late 97 you can see how frazzled he really was as a songwriter

Some would argue The Real People, but stuff like wonderwall and champagne supernova is a case of intuition/talent/chance/inspiration and drugs possibly

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