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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 16:02:34 GMT -5
When will elections happen? I'm getting tired of this thread (and if you ask me why do I even bother lookin' at it, it's because I have nothing else to do )
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 2, 2016 16:06:05 GMT -5
When will elections happen? I'm getting tired of this thread (and if you ask me why do I even bother lookin' at it, it's because I have nothing else to do ) 8th November, so next Tuesday
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 16:07:05 GMT -5
When will elections happen? I'm getting tired of this thread (and if you ask me why do I even bother lookin' at it, it's because I have nothing else to do ) 8th November, so next Tuesday Finally.
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Post by colddrystone on Nov 2, 2016 16:33:57 GMT -5
Sorry but that's complete crap. Everything I retorted with was stuff by Trump himself, whereas youre saying there's all this evidence yet all you respond with is common left wing oh he's a racist or a misogynist. And what does that article really say about trump? Just cos some idiots are supporting him, he's not condoning the KKK himself. however, there's video footage of Hillary calling Robert Byrd, who promoted the KKKs sick message of hatred and who himself said he'd "never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side", as a friend and mentor. Link is anonews.co/hillary-clinton-kkk/ if you want to see for yourself Again, another pathetic case of spinning to reel in the uninformed fools. All the evidence is out on the web - the mainstream media even, but that's why Trump supporters hate it, because it reveals a bit more context than the usual dunderheaded twat websites like Breitbart. Robert Byrd WAS indeed a member of KKK - but quit.... in 1952. After which he vehemently regretted his stance and there after became a civil rights stalwart from then on. And this is the context by which Clinton praised him when he died. Even the NAACP mourned his passing with this statement. "The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."This is in stark comparison to Donald Trump's refusal to condemn David Duke. Okay, Duke is no longer a member of the KKK, but he's still an avid Holocaust denier and member of another white supremacist group, the NAAWP. And if a political candidate I liked in the UK was endorsed by a bunch of neo-Nazis, then I'd really have to question why. So by your logic, it was ok for him to be an actual racist cos it was a long time ago, yet trump has to actively go around denouncing the KKK even though he's never been or endorsed them?
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 2, 2016 16:58:25 GMT -5
How about this then, btw I have no idea if its constitutionally viable. Trump wins, his presidency is a total disaster and collapses within 6 months leading to a new election with a new democrat challenger. I think I would take that. Unfortunately we Americans don't have votes of no confidence and can't call elections whenever we want, so if Trump were elected, we'd be stuck with that fucker for four years.
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Post by matt on Nov 2, 2016 17:05:45 GMT -5
Again, another pathetic case of spinning to reel in the uninformed fools. All the evidence is out on the web - the mainstream media even, but that's why Trump supporters hate it, because it reveals a bit more context than the usual dunderheaded twat websites like Breitbart. Robert Byrd WAS indeed a member of KKK - but quit.... in 1952. After which he vehemently regretted his stance and there after became a civil rights stalwart from then on. And this is the context by which Clinton praised him when he died. Even the NAACP mourned his passing with this statement. "The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."This is in stark comparison to Donald Trump's refusal to condemn David Duke. Okay, Duke is no longer a member of the KKK, but he's still an avid Holocaust denier and member of another white supremacist group, the NAAWP. And if a political candidate I liked in the UK was endorsed by a bunch of neo-Nazis, then I'd really have to question why. So by your logic, it was ok for him to be an actual racist cos it was a long time ago, yet trump has to actively go around denouncing the KKK even though he's never been or endorsed them? I don't know where you've come to the conclusion that I said its okay to be racist - and you seem willing to completely obliterate history after 1952 when he reformed. I was calling you out for bullshit that you spun by failing to contextualise your criticism of Clinton, which was misleading. And this is coming from somebody complaining about MSM. It may be alright for Trump to denounce the KKK, but the very fact they have endorsed him says something worrying. For a man who has insulted Mexicans and other minority groups, then it doesn't take a genius to find out why they like him.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 2, 2016 17:23:15 GMT -5
I sympathise with those in America who are utterly sick of the establishment. Trump may be more overtly disgusting but Clinton is insidious. The status quo has become a horrifying prospect for many Americans and I don't blame them, I feel exactly the same about England at the moment.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 2, 2016 17:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 2, 2016 17:41:22 GMT -5
I sympathise with those in America who are utterly sick of the establishment. Trump may be more overtly disgusting but Clinton is insidious. The status quo has become a horrifying prospect for many Americans and I don't blame them, I feel exactly the same about England at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 17:45:21 GMT -5
Did you fell of your bike at the end?
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 2, 2016 17:59:03 GMT -5
Did you fell of your bike at the end? Not that time, but I've gone down before, believe you me, horrific, never my fault, though, it's the Jews fault....just kidding, I don't blame other people for my problems like republicans do. God bless.
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 2, 2016 18:01:06 GMT -5
I sympathise with those in America who are utterly sick of the establishment. Trump may be more overtly disgusting but Clinton is insidious. The status quo has become a horrifying prospect for many Americans and I don't blame them, I feel exactly the same about England at the moment. Heres hoping we get some decent bands from the disaffected "yoof"!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 18:18:28 GMT -5
Did you fell of your bike at the end? Not that time, but I've gone down before, believe you me, horrific, never my fault, though, it's the Jews fault....just kidding, I don't blame other people for my problems like republicans do. God bless.
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Post by colddrystone on Nov 2, 2016 18:20:40 GMT -5
Sorry but that's complete crap. Everything I retorted with was stuff by Trump himself, whereas youre saying there's all this evidence yet all you respond with is common left wing oh he's a racist or a misogynist. And what does that article really say about trump? Just cos some idiots are supporting him, he's not condoning the KKK himself. however, there's video footage of Hillary calling Robert Byrd, who promoted the KKKs sick message of hatred and who himself said he'd "never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side", as a friend and mentor. Link is anonews.co/hillary-clinton-kkk/ if you want to see for yourself Again, another pathetic case of spinning to reel in the uninformed fools. All the evidence is out on the web - the mainstream media even, but that's why Trump supporters hate it, because it reveals a bit more context than the usual dunderheaded twat websites like Breitbart. Robert Byrd WAS indeed a member of KKK - but quit.... in 1952. After which he vehemently regretted his stance and there after became a civil rights stalwart from then on. And this is the context by which Clinton praised him when he died. Even the NAACP mourned his passing with this statement. "The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."This is in stark comparison to Donald Trump's refusal to condemn David Duke. Okay, Duke is no longer a member of the KKK, but he's still an avid Holocaust denier and member of another white supremacist group, the NAAWP. And if a political candidate I liked in the UK was endorsed by a bunch of neo-Nazis, then I'd really have to question why. See I don't really care about him not condemning David, he's not endorsing him either. And as far as you "calling out my bullshit", all im doing is trying to state facts that have come from the person themselves rather than some worthless rag. You saying they're made up is just putting your head further in the sand. How about you grow up, accept people who have a different opinion as you don't have to be neo Nazis or misogynists and read the damn facts than spout off your holier than thou, everyone i don't agree with is bad bullshit.
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Post by matt on Nov 2, 2016 19:03:00 GMT -5
Again, another pathetic case of spinning to reel in the uninformed fools. All the evidence is out on the web - the mainstream media even, but that's why Trump supporters hate it, because it reveals a bit more context than the usual dunderheaded twat websites like Breitbart. Robert Byrd WAS indeed a member of KKK - but quit.... in 1952. After which he vehemently regretted his stance and there after became a civil rights stalwart from then on. And this is the context by which Clinton praised him when he died. Even the NAACP mourned his passing with this statement. "The NAACP is saddened by the passing of United States Senator Robert Byrd. Byrd, the longest serving member of congress was first elected to the U.S. House from [West Virginia] in 1952 and was elected Senator in 1958. Byrd passed away this morning at the age of 92.
"Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation," stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
"Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation," stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy. "Senator Byrd was a master of the Senate Rules, and helped strategize passage of legislation that helped millions of Americans. He will be sorely missed."This is in stark comparison to Donald Trump's refusal to condemn David Duke. Okay, Duke is no longer a member of the KKK, but he's still an avid Holocaust denier and member of another white supremacist group, the NAAWP. And if a political candidate I liked in the UK was endorsed by a bunch of neo-Nazis, then I'd really have to question why. See I don't really care about him not condemning David, he's not endorsing him either. And as far as you "calling out my bullshit", all im doing is trying to state facts that have come from the person themselves rather than some worthless rag. You saying they're made up is just putting your head further in the sand. How about you grow up, accept people who have a different opinion as you don't have to be neo Nazis or misogynists and read the damn facts than spout off your holier than thou, everyone i don't agree with is bad bullshit.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 2, 2016 19:14:05 GMT -5
The real way to tell if someone has lost the argument is if they start incoherently flinging insults.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 2, 2016 19:41:38 GMT -5
The real way to tell if someone has lost the argument is if they start incoherently flinging insults. Ah fair enough the British House of Commons lost years ago in that case
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 2, 2016 19:56:50 GMT -5
I sympathise with those in America who are utterly sick of the establishment. Trump may be more overtly disgusting but Clinton is insidious. The status quo has become a horrifying prospect for many Americans and I don't blame them, I feel exactly the same about England at the moment. ¡Hillary Clintõn is one bad hombré! Gracias.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 2, 2016 20:07:22 GMT -5
The real way to tell if someone has lost the argument is if they start incoherently flinging insults. Ah fair enough the British House of Commons lost years ago in that case I remember when my comparative government teacher showed us some footage of the Prime Minister's Question Time, the class was "wtf are they drunk?" At first I thought they were being culturally insensitive, but all the knowledge I've picked up about British politics from you and theyknowwhatimean has led me to agree with their assessment!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 2, 2016 20:58:18 GMT -5
C U Next Tuesday.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 3, 2016 4:01:56 GMT -5
Ah fair enough the British House of Commons lost years ago in that case I remember when my comparative government teacher showed us some footage of the Prime Minister's Question Time, the class was "wtf are they drunk?" At first I thought they were being culturally insensitive, but all the knowledge I've picked up about British politics from you and theyknowwhatimean has led me to agree with their assessment! PMQ's is a great thing though. MP's being able to question the Prime Minister and put them on the spot, it also gives a more direct link between an MP's constituents and PM.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 7:46:43 GMT -5
Can we just elect Jason Heyward president? I hear he gave one hell of a speech during the rain delay last night. You can throw in Theo as VP, so we can actually get some stuff done.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 10:30:45 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Nov 3, 2016 13:09:04 GMT -5
I sympathise with those in America who are utterly sick of the establishment. Trump may be more overtly disgusting but Clinton is insidious. The status quo has become a horrifying prospect for many Americans and I don't blame them, I feel exactly the same about England at the moment. ¡Hillary Clintõn is one bad hombré! Gracias. He could have meant Chelsea.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 13:31:22 GMT -5
'm both agreeing and enjoying this
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