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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 27, 2016 3:38:16 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that when Trump brought up Clinton's "stamina" I thought that was a sexual reference. Seriously.
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Post by Ross on Sept 27, 2016 5:14:06 GMT -5
In his second term, Obama's doctrine was informally known as 'Don't Do Stupid Shit.' Well tonight all Trump needs to do is 'Don't Say Stupid Shit.' Unlike Obama, I'm hoping Trump can be successful. #trump16 Why? What quality does he have that is presidential? What makes you think he is the better candidate? What makes you feel he's qualified? I want to know why you think this way. There must be something I'm missing because you never say... Convincing enough people to vote for you that you win the election is all the qualifications you need.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 7:45:34 GMT -5
I went to the Astros/Mariners game last night with my son.
Extra innings (11) = free baseball.
Cano is amazing.
Looks as though you all had a lovely evening.
Carry on.
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Post by matt on Sept 27, 2016 9:38:08 GMT -5
See I don't get this with you Beady’s Here Now - you claim to be a Republican but want Trump to win yet the Republican establishment of Romney, Bush, McCain etc, of whom you all admire (and fair enough - they are very credible politicians) have all denounced Trump and refuse to back him. Bush even says he's voting Clinton. So are you telling me that these guys are wrong? Answers please, I'd seriously like to hear your views on this. McCain has endorsed Trump. See here. It doesn't matter if he does it with reservations or criticizes Trump; if he does not backtrack on his prior endorsement, he still supports Trump. If he truly did not agree with Trump's policies (if you can even call them that), he wouldn't have endorsed him. Unless he said it only ensure that he will be re-elected. Even then, it reflects very poorly on McCain, because he's either someone who supports the racism and misogyny Trump spews, or he is willing to endorse someone whose views are in conflict with his to keep his position of power. Similar to Chris Christie then? You'd think McCain would have some self-respect after Trump slandered him.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 27, 2016 9:46:46 GMT -5
Clinton wasn't great but Trump is a lunatic. In such cases, the non-lunatic should win.
Frightening that the future safety of my children could lie in the hands of millions of pig ignorant morons.
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 27, 2016 10:36:43 GMT -5
Trump really is bonkers, unhinged bonkers. His ranting and raving last night was off the scale. He appeals to the uneducated masses with his jingoistic rhetoric. Clinton was intelligent and measured and destroyed Trump on an intellectual level but she was also quite convoluted and the uneducated masses probably wouldn't understand what she was talking about.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Sept 27, 2016 19:57:23 GMT -5
Why? What quality does he have that is presidential? What makes you think he is the better candidate? What makes you feel he's qualified? I want to know why you think this way. There must be something I'm missing because you never say... Convincing enough people to vote for you that you win the election is all the qualifications you need. See the thing is, that doesn't answer my question. Why is he convincing? What about his policies or mannerisms or temperment is convincing to people that he should be president. I'm looking for an answer, in particular because such questions are being repeatedly deflected away from...
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 27, 2016 22:00:09 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now is the Clarence Thomas of the forum. He has staunchly conservative views, but he never elaborates on them because he knows that the moment he opens his mouth he will look like a complete moron.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 7:46:03 GMT -5
Is the American Dream still alive?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 8:07:35 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now is the Clarence Thomas of the forum. He has staunchly conservative views, but he never elaborates on them because he knows that the moment he opens his mouth he will look like a complete moron. This is funny, but I must point out that Donald Trump is not really a conservative. There's a reason the Bushes have publicly stated they will not be voting for him.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 28, 2016 10:02:35 GMT -5
Is the American Dream still alive? "The American Dream?....We don't have a dream in Great Britain, because we're awake!" - Al Murray
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 10:12:19 GMT -5
Is the American Dream still alive? Maybe you should ask all of the people who are risking their lives to get here from Mexico, Cuba, Syria, etc. For the vast majority of those who are born in the US and live here, the "American Dream" is something they will never understand nor truly appreciate. This concept became part of our social conscienceness during bygone eras when we had massive amounts of immigrants coming to our shores every day seeking a better life.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 28, 2016 10:18:17 GMT -5
Is the American Dream still alive? Maybe you should ask all of the people who are risking their lives to get here from Mexico, Cuba, Syria, etc. For the vast majority of those who are born in the US and live here, the "American Dream" is something they will never understand nor truly appreciate. This concept became part of our social conscienceness during bygone eras when we had massive amounts of immigrants coming to our shores every day seeking a better life. Kind of disagree. My generation, "The Millennials", will be/are the first ever generation to be worse off than their parents. Enough said, really. It's not good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 10:23:56 GMT -5
Maybe you should ask all of the people who are risking their lives to get here from Mexico, Cuba, Syria, etc. For the vast majority of those who are born in the US and live here, the "American Dream" is something they will never understand nor truly appreciate. This concept became part of our social conscienceness during bygone eras when we had massive amounts of immigrants coming to our shores every day seeking a better life. Kind of disagree. My generation, "The Millennials", will be/are the first ever generation to be worse off than their parents. Enough said, really. It's not good. I don't doubt that there are those who are worse off, but the reality is that most are not. Your quality of life is vastly superior to that of previous generations, and even more so when compared to most other nations of the world. Just because "millenials" are more skeptical of the world around them doesn't mean that the world is actually worse for them.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 28, 2016 10:30:06 GMT -5
Kind of disagree. My generation, "The Millennials", will be/are the first ever generation to be worse off than their parents. Enough said, really. It's not good. I don't doubt that there are those who are worse off, but the reality is that most are not. Your quality of life is vastly superior to that of previous generations, and even more so when compared to most other nations of the world. Just because "millenials" are more skeptical of the world around them doesn't mean that the world is actually worse for them. I don't think millenials are skeptical of the world. Remember, the millenials voted for Obama's positive hope and change in 2008, and will be vote vastly for Clinton over Trump. Millenials are living with their parents longer/moved back in with their parents, have crushing student debt, aren't buying houses, marrying later, have job hopped more, came to adulthood through the Great Recession (and slow recovery), etc. Too lazy to go to google and get the specifics lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 10:38:57 GMT -5
I don't doubt that there are those who are worse off, but the reality is that most are not. Your quality of life is vastly superior to that of previous generations, and even more so when compared to most other nations of the world. Just because "millenials" are more skeptical of the world around them doesn't mean that the world is actually worse for them. I don't think millenials are skeptical of the world. Remember, the millenials voted for Obama's positive hope and change in 2008, and will be vote vastly for Clinton over Trump. Millenials are living with their parents longer/moved back in with their parents, have crushing student debt, aren't buying houses, marrying later, have job hopped more, came to adulthood through the Great Recession (and slow recovery), etc. Too lazy to go to google and get the specifics lol You nailed the general perceptions of what it means to be a "millenial" with that one. In all seriousness though... Every generation looks back at the previous ones and thinks they've got it worse off. It's simply not true.
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Post by Ross on Sept 28, 2016 15:06:45 GMT -5
Convincing enough people to vote for you that you win the election is all the qualifications you need. See the thing is, that doesn't answer my question. Why is he convincing? What about his policies or mannerisms or temperment is convincing to people that he should be president. I'm looking for an answer, in particular because such questions are being repeatedly deflected away from... You had more than one question and i happened to only answer one. As for why people like trump in part it is that he is the candidate for there party. Then there is the fact that most people do not like politicians and he is not and does not act like a politician so that is in his favour. Then there is the the side of him that will give views that are either not politically correct or are simply avoided by most politicians. He is also entertaining. And lets give him credit for preventing Cruz being the nomination. And to add there is also the element that the more the media and those on the left look down on trump and his supporters the more it gets there back up and the more likely they are to be drawn towards him.
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Post by matt on Sept 30, 2016 22:19:22 GMT -5
Betcha Donald Trump is the Jimmy Saville of America.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 30, 2016 23:25:39 GMT -5
Betcha Donald Trump is the Jimmy Saville of America. Eerily enough, I watched a docu on Jimmy Saville tonight. What a vile human being.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 1, 2016 11:20:27 GMT -5
Cos she takes all her money from people and things, for the price the US are paying, for the shit that she brings, Trump fills me with hope with the rally he'll give tonight, this is our life, Donald Trump of mine. colddrystone
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Post by colddrystone on Oct 1, 2016 11:31:27 GMT -5
Cos she takes all her money from people and things, for the price the US are paying, for the shit that she brings, Trump fills me with hope with the rally he'll give tonight, this is our life, Donald Trump of mine. colddrystone When you find out who she is, the US wont be free #crookedhillary
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Post by Ross on Oct 1, 2016 15:00:24 GMT -5
Cos she takes all her money from people and things, for the price the US are paying, for the shit that she brings, Trump fills me with hope with the rally he'll give tonight, this is our life, Donald Trump of mine. colddrystone When you find out who she is, the US wont be free #crookedhillary You make it sound as though she is an unknown entity.
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Post by colddrystone on Oct 1, 2016 20:12:34 GMT -5
When you find out who she is, the US wont be free #crookedhillary You make it sound as though she is an unknown entity. Her as a person is. Most people are anti-Trump than Pro-Hillary. There's a ton of shady shit she's got away with due to everyone shouting racist about Trump or calling Johnson incompetent
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Post by spaneli on Oct 1, 2016 22:57:46 GMT -5
mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html?referer=https://www.google.com/That's what you call an October surprise. I really thought it'd happen to Clinton. Though it wasn't illegal what he did, it looks incredibly bad on multiple levels. No. It won't undo him. However, debates much like convnetions carry short term bounces. Usually the other candidate has plenty of time to bounce back (Obama v. Romney 2012 post first debate). With Trump, it has been the debate and the subsequent stories afterwards, this included. It gives the bounce a lot more staying power than if it was just the debate (currently Clinton has gained the equilibrium of this campaign. Her with a 3-5 point lead, and is looking to add onto it). This puts a lot of pressure on him for the second debate. If he puts in the same performance as the first, he will most likely not have enough time for Clinton's bounce to erode and simultaneously over take her (a feat he has yet to achieve this election, though he has gotten close).
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Post by batfink30 on Oct 2, 2016 9:56:33 GMT -5
Trump in Whitehouse in January, hard UK Brexit by March. World fallen to bits in April. Fun times ahead!
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