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Post by NYR on Jan 15, 2018 21:15:43 GMT -5
Instead of attending a ceremony today to honor Dr. MLK Jr, Trump spent the day at one of his golf resorts, but he did tell reporters that he isn't racist.... God bless. "I am not a crook racist" |
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Post by caro on Jan 15, 2018 22:08:03 GMT -5
I just hope that someone worth something will run in 2020. Never understood how the 2016 election was such a circus considering how many brilliant people live in this country. I’ll finally be voting!
Thoughts on the Oprah story?
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Post by World71R on Jan 16, 2018 0:25:34 GMT -5
I just hope that someone worth something will run in 2020. Never understood how the 2016 election was such a circus considering how many brilliant people live in this country. I’ll finally be voting! Thoughts on the Oprah story? I think we do not need two celebrities running for President in the two major parties of our country. Both sides have issues that often get overlooked by regular people and I feel like having two celebrity candidates running only escalates such ignorance by being caught up in the celebrity culture. Not saying Oprah would be a bad candidate, but we need someone on the Democrat side who is experienced in politics, willing to really shake things up, change what's going wrong, and really bring out the BS that the Republicans and Donald Trump are doing, to a point that it will hit them where it hurts and reach the general audience. Additionally, the Democrats need someone that doesn't have so much baggage like Hillary Clinton did. Obvious names pop up like Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, but also Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand, and others. Needless to say, it's going to be a crucial election, as will the upcoming mid-terms this year. |
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Post by funhouse on Jan 16, 2018 5:15:41 GMT -5
I just hope that someone worth something will run in 2020. Never understood how the 2016 election was such a circus considering how many brilliant people live in this country. I’ll finally be voting! Thoughts on the Oprah story? If Bernie runs again, he will win. If he doesn't, it's probably going to be Warren. Establishment candidates will have no chance. As for the Oprah thing, I think it's an absolute farce. What are her policies? Doesn't really matter, because at least she's better than Trump. Our celebrity is better than their celebrity. Please kill me. |
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jan 16, 2018 18:45:24 GMT -5
I just hope that someone worth something will run in 2020. Never understood how the 2016 election was such a circus considering how many brilliant people live in this country. I’ll finally be voting! Thoughts on the Oprah story? She supported the Iraq war and she's complained about the estate tax which only affects the rich. We'd basically be getting a more likable African American version of Hillary Clinton. It's just more of the same mentality that has people talking about wanting the Rock to run. It's sheer identity politics. There's a certain segment of people who don't seem to care about policies at all anymore. And it's not surprising, because the media is corporate run and doesn't focus on policies. They spent the bulk of the election cycle talking about "grab 'em by the pussy" when if there's any one comment that should've gotten all the attention it was probably him talking about turning the US into a terrorist state by bombing and torturing foreign civilians. And it hasn't gotten any better. How many people do you think know about Trump's "shithole countries" by now? And how many of those people do you think know about this? Trump's first air strike killed an eight year old American girl in Yemen. But that's not in the American consciousness, because we've been spending all our time fighting over his racist comments on twitter. Democrats want it that way because then nobody brings up how imperialistic their own policies are. And so now the DNC is probably thinking all they have to do in 2020 is give people a chance to give the bigot their middle finger by electing the famous black woman so they can feel good about themselves, and then they can just use her to forward the same neoliberal agenda we've had under the Clintons and Obama. I don't know how serious and informed on the issues she is. My guess is she'd probably just rely on her advisers to tell her what to do like Trump does with Paul Ryan. And it's not gonna be Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders whispering in her ear. If celebrities care so much that they want to be president, they can at least do what Reagan did; start out as a governor or a senator. Earn a reputation and show us what you'd do with one state before we hand over the whole country to you. |
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Post by caro on Jan 16, 2018 19:46:36 GMT -5
I feel the same as you all. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t know that Oprah would only be concerned with “rich people problems”. She was always pretty involved and supportive of the obamas. I was never an Obama’s supporter (sorry) but I’m not a trump supporter either. I just cannot believe the things that come out of his mouth... but believe it or not he has Obama to thank for for his election to the big job. Obama was far from perfect. Now at least he was not crass and was a dignified leader. I guess my ideal candidate would be someone who is half way between Democrats and Republicans. I just find both parties to be extreme in their views, all or nothing, black or white. And now I understand why they are that way... because that’s the only way for them to get elected. Most (not all no one gets offended please) republican voters are way too attached to a leader who will adhere to their religious view and beliefs and reject other ideas. Democrat voters are way to attached to the view that it’s bad to be rich and/or anyone who is not working class and is an entrepreneur is filthy rich and should give everything away. The real world has shades of gray and most people are unable to grasp that. Politicians just run to be elected and we’re standing in a big pile of crap right now.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 16, 2018 21:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by funhouse on Jan 17, 2018 6:06:20 GMT -5
I feel the same as you all. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t know that Oprah would only be concerned with “rich people problems”. She was always pretty involved and supportive of the obamas. I was never an Obama’s supporter (sorry) but I’m not a trump supporter either. I just cannot believe the things that come out of his mouth... but believe it or not he has Obama to thank for for his election to the big job. Obama was far from perfect. Now at least he was not crass and was a dignified leader. I guess my ideal candidate would be someone who is half way between Democrats and Republicans. I just find both parties to be extreme in their views, all or nothing, black or white. And now I understand why they are that way... because that’s the only way for them to get elected. Most (not all no one gets offended please) republican voters are way too attached to a leader who will adhere to their religious view and beliefs and reject other ideas. Democrat voters are way to attached to the view that it’s bad to be rich and/or anyone who is not working class and is an entrepreneur is filthy rich and should give everything away. The real world has shades of gray and most people are unable to grasp that. Politicians just run to be elected and we’re standing in a big pile of crap right now. When have the Democrats criticised rich people? Unless it's about someone they disagree with politically, they usually keep their mouth shut and take the same bribes that the other side does. |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 9:06:38 GMT -5
Ha yeah they’re hypocrites too. I was talking about people who elect them. Also like I said I was drawing very broad generalizations.
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Post by jxing on Jan 17, 2018 10:47:28 GMT -5
I feel the same as you all. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t know that Oprah would only be concerned with “rich people problems”. She was always pretty involved and supportive of the obamas. I was never an Obama’s supporter (sorry) but I’m not a trump supporter either. I just cannot believe the things that come out of his mouth... but believe it or not he has Obama to thank for for his election to the big job. Obama was far from perfect. Now at least he was not crass and was a dignified leader. I guess my ideal candidate would be someone who is half way between Democrats and Republicans. I just find both parties to be extreme in their views, all or nothing, black or white. And now I understand why they are that way... because that’s the only way for them to get elected. Most (not all no one gets offended please) republican voters are way too attached to a leader who will adhere to their religious view and beliefs and reject other ideas. Democrat voters are way to attached to the view that it’s bad to be rich and/or anyone who is not working class and is an entrepreneur is filthy rich and should give everything away. The real world has shades of gray and most people are unable to grasp that. Politicians just run to be elected and we’re standing in a big pile of crap right now. Seriously, thank you for writing this... I completely agree! |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 10:47:39 GMT -5
Not voting for someone who always disses the US and claims to be British sorry 😁 Sadly I won’t be able to run as I wasn’t born in the US. I know that is a disappointment to many. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 17, 2018 13:10:54 GMT -5
Not voting for someone who always disses the US and claims to be British sorry 😁 Sadly I won’t be able to run as I wasn’t born in the US. I know that is a disappointment to many. If I was American I'd be claiming to be any nationality but these days. |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 13:19:48 GMT -5
Not voting for someone who always disses the US and claims to be British sorry 😁 Sadly I won’t be able to run as I wasn’t born in the US. I know that is a disappointment to many. If I was American I'd be claiming to be any nationality but these days. There is a lot of good in the US. Don’t dismiss what you don’t know. I don’t pretend to know everything but this is the third country I’ve lived in. It has his flaws like any place but also a lot of good things. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jan 17, 2018 13:53:51 GMT -5
If I was American I'd be claiming to be any nationality but these days. There is a lot of good in the US. Don’t dismiss what you don’t know. I don’t pretend to know everything but this is the third country I’ve lived in. It has his flaws like any place but also a lot of good things. Of course there is but internationally they're(the government) a laughing stock at the moment. |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 13:56:17 GMT -5
Thankfully governments come and go. But yeah it’s an embarrassment.
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 17, 2018 14:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 17, 2018 15:07:59 GMT -5
What's this about the Democrats being "too extreme" in their views?
I was under the impression America had two main political parties, a conservative one and a very conservative one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:23:04 GMT -5
What's this about the Democrats being "too extreme" in their views? I was under the impression America had two main political parties, a conservative one and a very conservative one. That Democrat party is a joke. It goes from the left (which is the big minority) to plain and simple right (which represents the biggest part of the party). Hell, I remember that during the US elections, the big majority of the french right wing gave their support to Clinton, saying that "US democrat party has a lot in common with the french right wing". That says it all... Hope Sanders tries again in 2020, if not, let's hope it will be someone of the same type. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:29:40 GMT -5
That can't be worse than Trump, Macron, Merkel, Rajoy or even May  |
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 17, 2018 17:44:56 GMT -5
That can't be worse than Trump, Macron, Merkel, Rajoy or even May i dont like merkel nor did i ever vote for her but she shouldnt make that list. shes the most reasonable person in politics right now |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 17:51:52 GMT -5
I just hope that someone worth something will run in 2020. Never understood how the 2016 election was such a circus considering how many brilliant people live in this country. I’ll finally be voting! Thoughts on the Oprah story? If he doesn't, it's probably going to be Warren. Establishment candidates will have no chance. As for the Oprah thing, I think it's an absolute farce. What are her policies? Doesn't really matter, because at least she's better than Trump. Our celebrity is better than their celebrity. Please kill me. are you sure? he'll be pushing 80 by the time he takes office. agreed with you on oprah, however i would be interested to hear her policies and what she intends to do. if nothing else she would bring some dignity, respect and decency back to the oval office. |
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jan 17, 2018 18:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2018 19:22:35 GMT -5
I feel the same as you all. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t know that Oprah would only be concerned with “rich people problems”. She was always pretty involved and supportive of the obamas. I was never an Obama’s supporter (sorry) but I’m not a trump supporter either. I just cannot believe the things that come out of his mouth... but believe it or not he has Obama to thank for for his election to the big job. Obama was far from perfect. Now at least he was not crass and was a dignified leader. I guess my ideal candidate would be someone who is half way between Democrats and Republicans. I just find both parties to be extreme in their views, all or nothing, black or white. And now I understand why they are that way... because that’s the only way for them to get elected. Most (not all no one gets offended please) republican voters are way too attached to a leader who will adhere to their religious view and beliefs and reject other ideas. Democrat voters are way to attached to the view that it’s bad to be rich and/or anyone who is not working class and is an entrepreneur is filthy rich and should give everything away. The real world has shades of gray and most people are unable to grasp that. Politicians just run to be elected and we’re standing in a big pile of crap right now. Its not bad to rich, its just impractical for everyone else. They shouldn't give it away they just shouldn't have it in the first place. |
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Post by jxing on Jan 17, 2018 19:44:37 GMT -5
I feel the same as you all. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t know that Oprah would only be concerned with “rich people problems”. She was always pretty involved and supportive of the obamas. I was never an Obama’s supporter (sorry) but I’m not a trump supporter either. I just cannot believe the things that come out of his mouth... but believe it or not he has Obama to thank for for his election to the big job. Obama was far from perfect. Now at least he was not crass and was a dignified leader. I guess my ideal candidate would be someone who is half way between Democrats and Republicans. I just find both parties to be extreme in their views, all or nothing, black or white. And now I understand why they are that way... because that’s the only way for them to get elected. Most (not all no one gets offended please) republican voters are way too attached to a leader who will adhere to their religious view and beliefs and reject other ideas. Democrat voters are way to attached to the view that it’s bad to be rich and/or anyone who is not working class and is an entrepreneur is filthy rich and should give everything away. The real world has shades of gray and most people are unable to grasp that. Politicians just run to be elected and we’re standing in a big pile of crap right now. Its not bad to rich, its just impractical for everyone else. They shouldn't give it away they just shouldn't have it in the first place. Please elaborate. |
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Post by caro on Jan 17, 2018 19:46:40 GMT -5
What's this about the Democrats being "too extreme" in their views? I was under the impression America had two main political parties, a conservative one and a very conservative one. That Democrat party is a joke. It goes from the left (which is the big minority) to plain and simple right (which represents the biggest part of the party). Hell, I remember that during the US elections, the big majority of the french right wing gave their support to Clinton, saying that "US democrat party has a lot in common with the french right wing". That says it all... Hope Sanders tries again in 2020, if not, let's hope it will be someone of the same type. That’s what I thought too before (I’m initially from France) but realized that things are different, especially since Obama’s first campaign in 2008. A lot of his propositions were very reminiscent of socialist president Francois Mitterrand in the 80’s and ended up killing the French economy. To this day France suffers from these socialists visions and can never get to the level of the UK and Germany economically speaking. One of the reasons I was never an Obama supporter. |
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