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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 14, 2015 12:58:51 GMT -5
A missed opportunity to write a good song This was a missed opportunity to leave a comment that contributes something.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 14, 2015 16:18:20 GMT -5
It's a fantastic song and, if recorded in the 90's, it would probably be considered a classic now, but the time for massive success has passed for Noel. It would be nice to see him have a worldwide hit, but it is improbable.The really important thing is that his songwriting has been in very good shape for several years now. I will be happy as long as he maintains this level
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Post by bestwick8 on Sept 14, 2015 17:09:52 GMT -5
I think the reason why Beady eye failed was because of the promotion and marketing. They chose the wrong singles, I found they tried to hard to choose the ones that sounded completely different from oasis. They screwed up debuting with bring the light, when they had all the hype built up after oasis
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 14, 2015 17:45:24 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun was the real missed opportunity.
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Post by World71R on Sept 14, 2015 18:30:22 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun was the real missed opportunity. Especially with the way they did the promotion in the US for the song. He did Letterman, and it was almost like nothing else happened to help the song. In the Heat of the Moment and Lock All the Doors were two missed opportunities, also, along with You Know We Can't Go Back. That, and all of the other singles from CY (bar Riverman) would've been top 10-20 hits with the right promotion.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 14, 2015 23:28:18 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun was the real missed opportunity. Especially with the way they did the promotion in the US for the song. He did Letterman, and it was almost like nothing else happened to help the song. In the Heat of the Moment and Lock All the Doors were two missed opportunities, also, along with You Know We Can't Go Back. That, and all of the other singles from CY (bar Riverman) would've been top 10-20 hits with the right promotion. It is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to have a top 10-20 hit without Radio 1/Capital Radio backing you nowadays
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Post by mahsteve on Sept 15, 2015 2:56:12 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican
All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 3:39:21 GMT -5
I think the reason why Beady eye failed was because of the promotion and marketing. They chose the wrong singles, I found they tried to hard to choose the ones that sounded completely different from oasis. They screwed up debuting with bring the light, when they had all the hype built up after oasis I thought Beady Eye were doing fine until Noel released his album.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 15, 2015 6:01:41 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them. Yeah, especially the ones with the higher notes, because Liam was always known for having a huge vocal range
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Post by World71R on Sept 15, 2015 20:39:29 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them. Everybody's on the Run? The Right Stuff? In the Heat of the Moment? Not a chance. For one, Liam does not have the proper range to hit all of the notes, and plus, he doesn't have the same control over his voice that Noel does to sing those songs.
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Post by mahsteve on Sept 16, 2015 2:19:01 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them. Everybody's on the Run? The Right Stuff? In the Heat of the Moment? Not a chance. For one, Liam does not have the proper range to hit all of the notes, and plus, he doesn't have the same control over his voice that Noel does to sing those songs. I do realise that. I'm sure it would be a bit different if Liam sung those songs but just out of curiosity I'd like to have know what it would have sounded like.
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Post by underneaththesky on Sept 16, 2015 12:39:59 GMT -5
you can't say Liam couldn't have sung these songs - they would have played em in different keys anyway.
imagine Liam on fire spittin "They tell me you've touched the face of God"
and the "pleaaase don't let go".. and fuck me the entire song would have been great. in a more rock n roll way, it would have worked in the end somehow
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 16, 2015 12:42:46 GMT -5
Isn't it great how some people know everything?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 13:44:48 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them. Yeah, especially the ones with the higher notes, because Liam was always known for having a huge vocal range Lock All the Doors and maybe Everybody's on the Run were originally written for Liam. I can imagine him singing Lock All the Doors and You Know We Can't Back (it sounds like The Meaning of Soul), but he can't sing ITHOTM or Right Stuff
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Post by World71R on Sept 16, 2015 18:17:36 GMT -5
you can't say Liam couldn't have sung these songs - they would have played em in different keys anyway. imagine Liam on fire spittin "They tell me you've touched the face of God" and the "pleaaase don't let go".. and fuck me the entire song would have been great. in a more rock n roll way, it would have worked in the end somehow I wouldn't say today's Liam would do good at what you mentioned, but holy shit, 90s Liam would've been on fire with it (including the SOTSOG era, which was pretty much recorded in the 90s). I just think that his post-DBTT era voice sounds far too strained on those types of songs where a spitfire voice is needed. Side note: I didn't say his post-SOTSOG era voice because HC was a weird era for his voice, and DBTT had Lyla and Eyeball Tickler, which were alright songs for him, but anything after that was either enhanced with Noel's harmonies, processing, or sounded strained, to me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 16, 2015 18:22:03 GMT -5
I think the reason why Beady eye failed was because of the promotion and marketing. They chose the wrong singles, I found they tried to hard to choose the ones that sounded completely different from oasis. They screwed up debuting with bring the light, when they had all the hype built up after oasis Four Letter Word should have kicked off Beady Eye's career. It had the bravado and balls we all wanted from this project. I respect them for attempting to be daring by releasing Bring The Light first but it was a misstep. They needed to kick the doors down first.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 16, 2015 18:24:09 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun was the real missed opportunity. Especially with the way they did the promotion in the US for the song. He did Letterman, and it was almost like nothing else happened to help the song. In the Heat of the Moment and Lock All the Doors were two missed opportunities, also, along with You Know We Can't Go Back. That, and all of the other singles from CY (bar Riverman) would've been top 10-20 hits with the right promotion. This might be a very unpopular opinion but "If I Had A Gun..." isn't really a great song. To me it's average and the "ahhh ahhh" parts never sat right with me. Finish the lyric. Who does that kind of stuff? Anyways, there is nothing that makes that song stand out. Should it have been recorded differently? Absolutely but let's be honest, it was never going to be the smashing hit Noel thought it would become. I much prefer "Shoot A Hole Into The Sun".
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Post by themexican on Sept 16, 2015 22:57:42 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Noel's writing good songs in the NGHFB era but my only slight issue with it is thati'm always drawn back to the same kld thing "That song would sound great with Liam singing".. I know we've had this discussion hundreds of times so I'll keep it brief. I like Noel's songs he's writing now but I just think some of them would be great with Liam singing i.e. Everybody's on the run Lock all the doors The right stuff You know we can't go back Do the damage In the heat of the moment The Mexican All the songs sound good with Noel singing them but I just feel it's a missed opportunity to Liam to sing them.
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