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Post by Riverman on Aug 14, 2015 3:32:05 GMT -5
Both have fantastic voice/vocals...who do you think is better?
Obviously both in their "prime"
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 14, 2015 3:55:12 GMT -5
Both have fantastic voice/vocals...who do you think is better? Obviously both in their "prime" In their prime, Liam for raw power but personally, Ashcroft for'singing' and tones. These days I havent heard Ashcroft since 2011 and Liam since BE split up, so I can't really say. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 4:11:00 GMT -5
In their prime its no question, Liam was stunningly good in the 90's. Not a knock on Ashcroft who's overall much more talented IMO but vocally he can't touch RKID.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 14, 2015 4:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 14, 2015 4:45:44 GMT -5
For a comparison to Liam  (love them both as front men and singers tbh)
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 14, 2015 5:22:01 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 14, 2015 6:07:08 GMT -5
I love them both a lot, and even though they have similar kind of voices, I feel as if Ashcroft puts more emotion into his singing. It sounds more emotional too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 6:14:33 GMT -5
Love them both too, but at his prime, Liam...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 6:16:19 GMT -5
I love them both a lot, and even though they have similar kind of voices, I feel as if Ashcroft puts more emotion into his singing. It sounds more emotional too. Maybe it seems that way because Richard Ashcroft wrote the majority of the songs as well as singing them, so he knew exactly what the songs meant emotionally to him. I think songs like Slide Way, Listen Up, Some Might Say, Don't Go Away, I'm Outta Time and a lot of songs on BE are dripping with emotion from Liam's singing. I'd go with Liam's voice ahead of Richard's. Just. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 14, 2015 6:27:45 GMT -5
I love them both a lot, and even though they have similar kind of voices, I feel as if Ashcroft puts more emotion into his singing. It sounds more emotional too. Maybe it seems that way because Richard Ashcroft wrote the majority of the songs as well as singing them, so he knew exactly what the songs meant emotionally to him. I think songs like Slide Way, Listen Up, Some Might Say, Don't Go Away, I'm Outta Time and a lot of songs on BE are dripping with emotion from Liam's singing. I'd go with Liam's voice ahead of Richard's. Just. Agree that Liam puts alot of emotion into those songs, which is why it's probably irrelevant to some degree about being the writer. If you have a singer who knows or is gifted at their craft, they can make any song sound like it's theirs, even if he/she didn't write a note of it. Liam would be a fine example of this on the early Oasis songs. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 14, 2015 6:46:13 GMT -5
I love them both a lot, and even though they have similar kind of voices, I feel as if Ashcroft puts more emotion into his singing. It sounds more emotional too. Maybe it seems that way because Richard Ashcroft wrote the majority of the songs as well as singing them, so he knew exactly what the songs meant emotionally to him. I think songs like Slide Way, Listen Up, Some Might Say, Don't Go Away, I'm Outta Time and a lot of songs on BE are dripping with emotion from Liam's singing. I'd go with Liam's voice ahead of Richard's. Just. Agreed. And yet of course, it's Liam's lack of emoting on the majority of Oasis songs that made his vocals so unique. With anyone else on vocal duties, Wonderwall would have become a generic love song (seriously, go on YouTube and watch any cover you see - including Noely G's! - and I bet you'll want to hurl when they get to the "I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now" line), but Liam played it totally straight and just barked the lyrics out. That in-your-face, almost punky delivery forces you to stand up and notice it. Very few vocalists are so distinctive. |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Aug 14, 2015 7:34:14 GMT -5
For a comparison to Liam (love them both as front men and singers tbh) Wow! Absolutely amazing... I won't dare to pick one of them over the other. They're both definitely two of my favourite singers. Unfortunately with Liam, you always have to add "in his prime"  |
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Post by LightsOffInside on Aug 14, 2015 7:57:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately you're asking a biased forum.... Both are great though - that video of Ashcroft....  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 8:07:48 GMT -5
For a comparison to Liam (love them both as front men and singers tbh) I'd never seen that before. Absolutely stunning! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 14, 2015 8:09:48 GMT -5
FYI I didn't say Richard was better than Liam (in his prime), I was merely stating that his performances sound more emotional to me.
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Post by bestwick8 on Aug 14, 2015 9:31:28 GMT -5
What is Richard even up to these days? Was his last album the one with the united nations of sound? He's been out of the spotlight for a long time now....
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 14, 2015 9:44:25 GMT -5
What is Richard even up to these days? Was his last album the one with the united nations of sound? He's been out of the spotlight for a long time now.... Last confirmed studio work was with ex OCS bassist Damon Minchella tweeting in early 2014 he was in studio with him, but nothing emerged, believe he played some low key acoustic gigs that year too. And yes RPA & THe United Nations was his last to date. |
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 14, 2015 9:48:05 GMT -5
Time for a Liam vs Noel thread anyone?
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Post by magneticz on Aug 14, 2015 9:56:29 GMT -5
Of course it's a draw
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Post by Riverman on Aug 14, 2015 9:59:43 GMT -5
Maybe it seems that way because Richard Ashcroft wrote the majority of the songs as well as singing them, so he knew exactly what the songs meant emotionally to him. I think songs like Slide Way, Listen Up, Some Might Say, Don't Go Away, I'm Outta Time and a lot of songs on BE are dripping with emotion from Liam's singing. I'd go with Liam's voice ahead of Richard's. Just. Agreed. And yet of course, it's Liam's lack of emoting on the majority of Oasis songs that made his vocals so unique. With anyone else on vocal duties, Wonderwall would have become a generic love song (seriously, go on YouTube and watch any cover you see - including Noely G's! - and I bet you'll want to hurl when they get to the "I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now" line), but Liam played it totally straight and just barked the lyrics out. That in-your-face, almost punky delivery forces you to stand up and notice it. Very few vocalists are so distinctive. well said |
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Post by Cast on Aug 14, 2015 10:02:56 GMT -5
Liam in his prime - from 1994-1997 is by far my favorite rock n' roll vocalist ever. You could extend that period to 2001, but he became inconsistent around 1998. Richard isn't a slouch either, there's a reason why Chris Martin stated that he was the greatest singer on Earth. My favorite aspect about Richard's voice is that he so soulful. Songs like Mahammad Ali and Chic Dub are awesome. The soulful vocals over the psychedelic and jazzy instrument was what made the verve so great. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Marvin Gaye - the up and down personality, the music is power philosophy, etc.
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Post by mouth on Aug 14, 2015 11:42:13 GMT -5
it's an oasis forum. of course a landslide win by liam was bound to happen. though, when you're being honst, you have to admit that his voice has been fucked for almost 15 years now, wheras with ashcroft you sometimes cannot tell if it's live or the album version.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 14, 2015 12:13:14 GMT -5
it's an oasis forum. of course a landslide win by liam was bound to happen. though, when you're being honst, you have to admit that his voice has been fucked for almost 15 years now, wheras with ashcroft you sometimes cannot tell if it's live or the album version. Read the OP again. |
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Post by mouth on Aug 14, 2015 12:22:36 GMT -5
it's an oasis forum. of course a landslide win by liam was bound to happen. though, when you're being honst, you have to admit that his voice has been fucked for almost 15 years now, wheras with ashcroft you sometimes cannot tell if it's live or the album version. Read the OP again. ashcroft's prime has been ongoing for the last 20ish years. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 14, 2015 12:27:16 GMT -5
Time for a Liam vs Noel thread anyone? No no, its time for the cake thread. |
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