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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 13, 2015 20:10:53 GMT -5
We all are decrying Noely G not making the cut (and rightly so!), but where is the mighty Paul Weller?! He never, EVER makes these kind of things. Not that he's arsed i'm sure, but for someone who's been written genre-hopping, bonafide classics for four decades now, he definitely doesn't get the praise he deserves. I wonder how many on that list have written a genuinely great album in their fifties like Weller did with 22 Dreams...
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 13, 2015 20:23:03 GMT -5
We all are decrying Noely G not making the cut (and rightly so!), but where is the mighty Paul Weller?! He never, EVER makes these kind of things. Not that he's arsed i'm sure, but for someone who's been written genre-hopping, bonafide classics for four decades now, he definitely doesn't get the praise he deserves. I wonder how many on that list have written a genuinely great album in their fifties like Weller did with 22 Dreams... Springsteen has the Rising. |
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Post by Manualex on Aug 13, 2015 21:20:40 GMT -5
r. kelly. are you kidding me? they must be pissing around.  |
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 13, 2015 21:27:58 GMT -5
r. kelly. are you kidding me? they must be pissing around. Get a woman alone in your room in the 90's and put this on. It was an aphrodisiac. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 21:43:04 GMT -5
they must be pissing around. Get a woman alone in your room in the 90's and put this on. It was an aphrodisiac. ...and that makes him one of the greatest songwriters of all-time? |
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 13, 2015 21:45:03 GMT -5
Get a woman alone in your room in the 90's and put this on. It was an aphrodisiac. ...and that makes him one of the greatest songwriters of all-time? Ha. No! But it got more guys laid than alcohol. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 21:47:57 GMT -5
...and that makes him one of the greatest songwriters of all-time? Ha. No! But it got more guys laid then alcohol. gee whiz. so that was the secret. if only i knew then what i know now  |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Aug 14, 2015 1:01:24 GMT -5
In the updated list released ten years from now, LAG will make the list, along with Justin Bieber and Demi Lovato, but not Noel. You heard it here first. |
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 14, 2015 2:12:58 GMT -5
In the updated list released ten years from now, LAG will make the list, along with Justin Bieber and Demi Lovato, but not Noel. You heard it here first. Thats a relief. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 14, 2015 2:29:57 GMT -5
I don't mind Noel not making the list nor did I expect him to. This is an american magazine and he simply hasn't had a great deal of success there.
However, I do wonder what Rolling Stone's criteria are for making the list, as there are both some ridiculous omissions and inclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 5:44:03 GMT -5
Haha, Taylor Swift over bastards like Weller or Gilmour/Waters and a lof of others... Noel could have only written Gotta Have Fun, Take Me Away and Cloudburst, he still will be better than some "songwriters" on it. Holy Yankees...  |
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Post by Ross on Aug 14, 2015 7:36:34 GMT -5
Leonard Cohen should be higher on the list. And it would have been nice if they could have found a place for the current greatest songwriter Jason Isbell.
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Post by tcgallagher on Aug 14, 2015 8:41:00 GMT -5
People may hate the living hell out of Green Day, but their early days saw huge success due to writing pop punk perfection that the American teen audience ate up, and certainly showed in their sales. Same for Madonna with writing hugely successful pop tunes. Taylor Swift, in the same boat. Not everyone has to like their music, but as for their designated genre, they have released hit after hit and garnered millions of fans in the process. I like Green Day and I think they wrote two classic records,but does Billie Joe deserve his place in this list more than the likes of Noel,Gilmour/Waters,Led Zeppelin,Weller etc.? Billie does deserve to be on this list, that being said so should the people you mentioned. Taylor Swift and Kanye West though, just cannot with those. |
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Post by Cast on Aug 14, 2015 10:25:04 GMT -5
First things first... The Rolling Stone sucks. It has a long long history of sucking. Lester Bangs was probably the only thing interesting to ever come out of the magazine. Their lists suck, their neoliberal political agenda is annoying. I don't respect their critical voice at all. NME maybe fan boyish and TMZ filled, and Pitchfork can be snobby but at least they aren't shockingly dumb/out of touch/selling out (u2 album of the year last year?!)
These lists are tough because to be honest everyone has their personal tastes and biases that are always thrown in. Plus you have the issue of respecting someones art and actually enjoying it. Plus there's whole entire genres that go over most peoples head (jazz/afrobeat/hiphop). How do you rate that? Its tough... You have to have a diverse taste, knowledge and respect to make one of these lists and most of the time the people making them don't have any of the three.
Lets be real how the fuck is James Taylor ahead of a visionary like Marvin Gaye? James Brown that much higher than Sly and Clinton? And ahead of Gaye? Love Harrison but come on ahead of way way too many people. Max Martin is a pop genius in today's pop climate, but he is pretty much the definition of monogenre pop music. Not sure if there's a GOAT, but Dylan wouldn't be mine as great as he is.
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 14, 2015 17:40:54 GMT -5
Lester Bangs was probably the only thing interesting to ever come out of the magazine. Cameron Crowe |
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Post by Cast on Aug 14, 2015 23:59:11 GMT -5
Lester Bangs was probably the only thing interesting to ever come out of the magazine. Cameron Crowe Right on. Crowe will always have my respect for Almost Famous and for the fact that he covered bands that RS wouldn't touch. As a 16 year old he knew more than most people working at RS, and this was in their hey-day. I don't know if I'd call him interesting like Bangs, but he seems like a generally chill dude and his work is solid enough, even if it has been really lackluster for over a decade now, at least concerning his films. |
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Aug 15, 2015 10:18:22 GMT -5
Glad to see Eminem on there.
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 15, 2015 10:40:56 GMT -5
Right on. Crowe will always have my respect for Almost Famous and for the fact that he covered bands that RS wouldn't touch. As a 16 year old he knew more than most people working at RS, and this was in their hey-day. I don't know if I'd call him interesting like Bangs, but he seems like a generally chill dude and his work is solid enough, even if it has been really lackluster for over a decade now, at least concerning his films. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Say Anything, and AlmostFamous make up for anything post 96. |
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Post by Cast on Aug 15, 2015 11:48:58 GMT -5
Right on. Crowe will always have my respect for Almost Famous and for the fact that he covered bands that RS wouldn't touch. As a 16 year old he knew more than most people working at RS, and this was in their hey-day. I don't know if I'd call him interesting like Bangs, but he seems like a generally chill dude and his work is solid enough, even if it has been really lackluster for over a decade now, at least concerning his films. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Say Anything, and AlmostFamous make up for anything post 96. Yeah the dude has done more than enough. Might be the best coming of age director out there. Still haven't seen Say Anything. Cusack in his prime? |
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Post by Sternumman on Aug 15, 2015 12:31:39 GMT -5
Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Say Anything, and AlmostFamous make up for anything post 96. Yeah the dude has done more than enough. Might be the best coming of age director out there. Still haven't seen Say Anything. Cusack in his prime? It's one of my favorites. If I pass it on tv I have to watch it. 80's Cusack was the best. Better Off Dead is another one I can't skip. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2015 15:49:40 GMT -5
'so baby gimme that 'toot-toot'! lemme give you that 'beep-beep!' runnin' her hands thru my 'fro, bouncin' on forty-foes' .... stuff of genius right there. if i'm being serious, i would have given the nod to wyclef jean before r. kelly or kanye west. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 15, 2015 15:57:41 GMT -5
We all are decrying Noely G not making the cut (and rightly so!), but where is the mighty Paul Weller?! He never, EVER makes these kind of things. Not that he's arsed i'm sure, but for someone who's been written genre-hopping, bonafide classics for four decades now, he definitely doesn't get the praise he deserves. I wonder how many on that list have written a genuinely great album in their fifties like Weller did with 22 Dreams... Springsteen has the Rising. Indeed. |
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Post by matt on Aug 30, 2015 19:29:54 GMT -5
What a shitlist. Where are Waters and Gilmour? What the fuck are Eminem, R. Kelly and Taylor Swift doing on this list? Why are most good song writers ranked so low? At least they got the top 3 right. Edit: Why the fuck are U2 higher than David Bowie and George Harrison, and higher on the list than most good songwriters anyway?I'm gonna bang the U2 drum here once again - and although being higher than Bowie is contentious, I would definitely put them much higher than George Harrison. Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love The Beatles and George Harrison, but I genuinely think U2's quality work far far far outnumbers Harrison's work all together. I think far too many people underestimate how good U2 actually were back in the 80s and 90s - aside from the blip that was Rattle & Hum, all the other work is mind bogglingly brilliant. |
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