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Post by mossy on Aug 1, 2015 18:59:30 GMT -5
A friend of mine works for a concert lighting company who've recently been contracted to work on Noel's 2016 tour. He's given me some glimpses of what we can expect!
The gigs will open in normal NGHFBs fashion with a mix of solo and Oasis songs.
An acoustic section is planned midway through the set. Some Be Here Now era tunes are being rehearsed for this including DGA and DYKWIM!!
The most exciting news is that Noel has reconciled with the AA and is planning a freak out section. Secretly the venue's lager will have been spiked with acid, so any skinheads who started boozing up early will come up at exactly the moment the AA hit the stage in a psychedelic explosion like in the final scene of Space Odyssey. The AA are only rehearsing three songs but this jam section is expected to last over five hours and will feature a 30 member samba band on percussion, two string sections, a eunuch choir and samples of Cecil the Lion's entire pride.
Several underground electronic artists and depending on the night more prominent producers such as 3D, David Holmes, Skream, UNKLE and Deadmau5 will then get the crowd dancing with back to back DJ sets comprising solely of NGHFBs remixes.
Noel is planning to encore with Don't Look Back In Anger.
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Post by matt on Aug 1, 2015 18:59:21 GMT -5
Problem is he's never going to write songs like that ever again - and I don't see much point in having another Wonderwall-lite or DLBIA-lite, so why not try something completely different? He's still got melodic gift, I just think he should encompass those melodies in a new sound. It's perhaps the fact that it's not the mid 90s that they're not seen as being, but yeah I'd take a concept album of Teitihuancans now. He's got it in him, just maybe afraid to branch out a bit (or too lazy). PS, I agree with you about LATD. It's a good point, but the majority of Noel's best work (songs you note) in the last 10 years are mainly the songs we can't compare to Oasis, or at least accuse him of trying to recapture past glories. The more he deviates from it, the better he seems to be. I think in terms of trying to recapture past glories, the only one that hits the spot is Everybody's On The Run, apart from that, stuff like Lock All The Doors can go in the bin! |
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Post by matt on Aug 1, 2015 19:04:33 GMT -5
A friend of mine works for a concert lighting company who've recently been contracted to work on Noel's 2016 tour. He's given me some glimpses of what we can expect! The gigs will open in normal NGHFBs fashion with a mix of solo and Oasis songs. An acoustic section is planned midway through the set. Some Be Here Now era tunes are being rehearsed for this including DGA and DYKWIM!! The most exciting news is that Noel has reconciled with the AA and is planning a freak out section. Secretly the venue's lager will have been spiked with acid, so any skinheads who started boozing up early will come up at exactly the moment the AA hit the stage in a psychedelic explosion like in the final scene of Space Odyssey. The AA are only rehearsing three songs but this jam section is expected to last over five hours and will feature a 30 member samba band on percussion, two string sections, a eunuch choir and samples of Cecil the Lion's entire pride. Noel is planning to encore with Don't Look Back In Anger. Yep, and this will be accompanied by the petrified look when Noel starts playing Probably All In The Mind.  |
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Post by World71R on Aug 1, 2015 19:07:23 GMT -5
Add on songs like Wonderwall, and Don't Look Back in Anger, and you got it. That's not to say they aren't good songs, but they're one and done type songs. No attempts at it should follow, or else you get an album like Heathen Chemistry. Although, I will say Little by Little, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, and Songbird are really good songs, and The Hindu Times is alright too. Hung in a Bad Place isn't bad, but it feels dull and uninspired in some places. LBL suffers from some of the uninspired nature at times, but it does alright for itself, and I really like it, especially for how it contains one of Noel's finest build-ups to the chorus he's ever wrote in (behind DLBIA of course) Problem is he's never going to write songs like that ever again - and I don't see much point in having another Wonderwall-lite or DLBIA-lite, so why not try something completely different? He's still got melodic gift, I just think he should encompass those melodies in a new sound. I know, and that's what I meant when I said that any attempts at writing those songs would only end up with something derivative and would result in scrutiny from outsiders over a lack of originality on Noel's part. That's just not necessary, and I agree with you on how he needs to take his talents into different sounds. More stuff like While the Song Remains the Same, Riverman, The Right Stuff, Ballad of the Mighty I, and even In the Heat of the Moment, are all steps in the right direction for him. Now, I'd like to see him act on it more and try to make the next album his Achtung Baby, if you place Chasing Yesterday as his The Joshua Tree as a solo artist. |
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Post by World71R on Aug 1, 2015 19:09:01 GMT -5
A friend of mine works for a concert lighting company who've recently been contracted to work on Noel's 2016 tour. He's given me some glimpses of what we can expect! The gigs will open in normal NGHFBs fashion with a mix of solo and Oasis songs. An acoustic section is planned midway through the set. Some Be Here Now era tunes are being rehearsed for this including DGA and DYKWIM!! The most exciting news is that Noel has reconciled with the AA and is planning a freak out section. Secretly the venue's lager will have been spiked with acid, so any skinheads who started boozing up early will come up at exactly the moment the AA hit the stage in a psychedelic explosion like in the final scene of Space Odyssey. The AA are only rehearsing three songs but this jam section is expected to last over five hours and will feature a 30 member samba band on percussion, two string sections, a eunuch choir and samples of Cecil the Lion's entire pride.
Several ungerground electronic artists and depending on the night more prominent producers such as 3D, David Holmes, Skream, UNKLE and Deadmau5 will then get the crowd dancing with back to back DJ sets comprising solely of NGHFBs remixes.Noel is planning to encore with Don't Look Back In Anger. Yep, you lost me at the points I highlighted above lol |
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Post by batfink30 on Aug 1, 2015 19:15:00 GMT -5
You could argue that EBOTR or AOTR or BOTMI are right up there with Noels best work. It's perhaps the fact that it's not the mid 90s that they're not seen as being, but yeah I'd take a concept album of Teitihuancans now. He's got it in him, just maybe afraid to branch out a bit (or too lazy). PS, I agree with you about LATD. It's a good point, but the majority of Noel's best work (songs you note) in the last 10 years are mainly the songs we can't compare to Oasis, or at least accuse him of trying to recapture past glories. The more he deviates from it, the better he seems to be. I think in terms of trying to recapture past glories, the only one that hits the spot is Everybody's On The Run, apart from that, stuff like Lock All The Doors can go in the bin! The heavy LATD promotion is baffling to me. It's a song that was left off early Oasis albums for a reason (it wasn't good enough). Why now, regurgitate and heavily promote it when his newer stuff is more interesting and mature like the insanely good BOTMI. I don't think he can just produce another NGHFB album in the same vain as the first two, there needs to be another direction or it starts to get very stale. Ditch the HFB for a start and gives us a NG acoustic album with intricate chord changes like BOTMI or AOTR, that would blow my mind! |
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Post by World71R on Aug 1, 2015 19:37:27 GMT -5
It's a good point, but the majority of Noel's best work (songs you note) in the last 10 years are mainly the songs we can't compare to Oasis, or at least accuse him of trying to recapture past glories. The more he deviates from it, the better he seems to be. I think in terms of trying to recapture past glories, the only one that hits the spot is Everybody's On The Run, apart from that, stuff like Lock All The Doors can go in the bin! The heavy LATD promotion is baffling to me. It's a song that was left off early Oasis albums for a reason (it wasn't good enough). Why now, regurgitate and heavily promote it when his newer stuff is more interesting and mature like the insanely good BOTMI. I don't think he can just produce another NGHFB album in the same vain as the first two, there needs to be another direction or it starts to get very stale. Ditch the HFB for a start and gives us a NG acoustic album with intricate chord changes like BOTMI or AOTR, that would blow my mind! To be fair, LATD is a good song that falls flat because of Noel's soft vocals and a poor transition between the verse and chorus that doesn't build up anything to get you excited for the chorus like a typical Oasis rocker would (Ex: Morning Glory, D'You Know What I Mean?; the pre-choruses on those songs are brilliant). However, I do think they've had their time, and even if he did have Liam around still, I think the quality of the carefree and mindless anthem rockers would start to get even more stale as time went on, if they stayed like LATD. Anthem-like songs like In the Heat of the Moment would be welcome ones to hear from Noel because it mixes some of the classic anthem qualities found in his songwriting while working on progressing with his sound (the synth bass for example; love it!). Ballad of the Mighty I is the same way, too. Anthem qualities with unique chord changes you mentioned and executing the usual verse-prechorus-chorus-interlude-verse-prechorus-verse-prechorus-chorus-bridge-verse-etc. structure in a different way that doesn't sound like anything he's done before. I like that, and wanna see more. Same with the space-y jazz tinged stuff and more electronic touches mixed with the guitars. Bring on the right stuff and experimentation, Noel!  |
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Post by GerryTheLeper on Aug 2, 2015 8:47:32 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why a b side from a. Era Noel detests is suddenly a "high possibility" now? Because it's a fantastic b-side similar to Shout It Out Loud and Idlers Dream which we heard late on on his last tour, and he said in an interview (reddit AMA?) that he had being playing it in rehearsals. |
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 2, 2015 18:08:41 GMT -5
NGHFB (5)
EOTR, DO, WAL, SOTWB, IIHAG,
CY (7)
YKWCGB, LATD, TDOTL, BOTMI, WTSRTS, FT, DTD
Oasis (9)
HTWA, TT, DD, Whatever, DLBIA, TM, LBL, Round are way, TIOBI
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 2, 2015 18:30:59 GMT -5
NGHFB (5) EOTR, DO, WAL, SOTWB, IIHAG, CY (7) YKWCGB, LATD, TDOTL, BOTMI, WTSRTS, FT, DTD Oasis (9) HTWA, TT, DD, Whatever, DLBIA, TM, LBL, Round are way, TIOBI No way he's not playing ITHOTM, Riverman and probably The Mexican too as he said he really enjoys playing it live (and it shows) And he'll be back to 5 Oasis songs for non-festival gigs |
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Post by ManofMisery on Aug 2, 2015 18:35:30 GMT -5
NGHFB (5) EOTR, DO, WAL, SOTWB, IIHAG, CY (7) YKWCGB, LATD, TDOTL, BOTMI, WTSRTS, FT, DTD Oasis (9) HTWA, TT, DD, Whatever, DLBIA, TM, LBL, Round are way, TIOBI No way he's not playing ITHOTM, Riverman and probably The Mexican too as he said he really enjoys playing it live (and it shows) And he'll be back to 5 Oasis songs for non-festival gigs I know but i'm fed up with they 3 and a bit fed up with the setlist in general. Don't know why never felt that way about any of the Gallaghers sets in particular. The reason i pick so many Oasis songs is because thats my mood atm and they are timeless. Oh and forgot Sunday Morning Call |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Aug 3, 2015 16:04:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure what this acoustic tour is gointo to be about, but I suppose he should add a couple of tunes to his set next year and mix it with the more recent ones (which means no BOTMI and TDOTL). Then if he comes back to UK arenas, I'd expect a few more shifts, but most probably some oasis b-sides included, unfortunately I doubt he'd try TGWXRE or WTSRTS
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Post by paperbackwriter on Aug 3, 2015 17:31:34 GMT -5
Man, how great would an acoustic set be?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 18:55:13 GMT -5
'Dig Out Your Soul' is an under rated masterpiece IMO. Would love to see Noel tackle some tracks from that album live. Such as 'The Turning' in the style of the demo he sang on during those sessions. That's an Oasis track where I actually loved the Liam version and the Noel demo equally. Above all Noel really needs to scratch his Bob Dylan itch and perform a tune like 'Like a Rolling Stone' live with an audience. He's done Dylan tunes in soundchecks and they work well, he should get one of those officially on the record. Of course none of this is likely to happen as Noely G 'tis rather fond of playing it safer than Durex. But this is a perfect thread for dreamers like me surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 4:01:19 GMT -5
'Dig Out Your Soul' is an under rated masterpiece IMO. Would love to see Noel tackle some tracks from that album live. Such as 'The Turning' in the style of the demo he sang on during those sessions. That's an Oasis track where I actually loved the Liam version and the Noel demo equally. Above all Noel really needs to scratch his Bob Dylan itch and perform a tune like 'Like a Rolling Stone' live with an audience. He's done Dylan tunes in soundchecks and they work well, he should get one of those officially on the record. Of course none of this is likely to happen as Noely G 'tis rather fond of playing it safer than Durex. But this is a perfect thread for dreamers like me surely? The Turning and Waiting for the Rapture |
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Post by World71R on Aug 8, 2015 11:06:47 GMT -5
'Dig Out Your Soul' is an under rated masterpiece IMO. Would love to see Noel tackle some tracks from that album live. Such as 'The Turning' in the style of the demo he sang on during those sessions. That's an Oasis track where I actually loved the Liam version and the Noel demo equally. Above all Noel really needs to scratch his Bob Dylan itch and perform a tune like 'Like a Rolling Stone' live with an audience. He's done Dylan tunes in soundchecks and they work well, he should get one of those officially on the record. Of course none of this is likely to happen as Noely G 'tis rather fond of playing it safer than Durex. But this is a perfect thread for dreamers like me surely? I agree to a certain extent. It was an imperfect masterpiece that ended up being a nice swansong to a legendary band, even with the missed opportunities in Ain't Got Nothin' and The Nature of Reality. It just needed Boy With the Blues in AGN's spot, and Come on Outside in TNOR's place, along with the Richard Fearless Production version of To Be Where There's Life on there to be perfect imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 15:00:33 GMT -5
'Dig Out Your Soul' is an under rated masterpiece IMO. Would love to see Noel tackle some tracks from that album live. Such as 'The Turning' in the style of the demo he sang on during those sessions. That's an Oasis track where I actually loved the Liam version and the Noel demo equally. Above all Noel really needs to scratch his Bob Dylan itch and perform a tune like 'Like a Rolling Stone' live with an audience. He's done Dylan tunes in soundchecks and they work well, he should get one of those officially on the record. Of course none of this is likely to happen as Noely G 'tis rather fond of playing it safer than Durex. But this is a perfect thread for dreamers like me surely? The Turning and Waiting for the Rapture I love the Noel demo version of Waiting for the Rapture. I can get on board with the studio version in the context of the entire album, but there's just something soul warming about the demo. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 15:03:27 GMT -5
'Dig Out Your Soul' is an under rated masterpiece IMO. Would love to see Noel tackle some tracks from that album live. Such as 'The Turning' in the style of the demo he sang on during those sessions. That's an Oasis track where I actually loved the Liam version and the Noel demo equally. Above all Noel really needs to scratch his Bob Dylan itch and perform a tune like 'Like a Rolling Stone' live with an audience. He's done Dylan tunes in soundchecks and they work well, he should get one of those officially on the record. Of course none of this is likely to happen as Noely G 'tis rather fond of playing it safer than Durex. But this is a perfect thread for dreamers like me surely? I agree to a certain extent. It was an imperfect masterpiece that ended up being a nice swansong to a legendary band, even with the missed opportunities in Ain't Got Nothin' and The Nature of Reality. It just needed Boy With the Blues in AGN's spot, and Come on Outside in TNOR's place, along with the Richard Fearless Production version of To Be Where There's Life on there to be perfect imo. Yeah I can see why some think the only black marks on the album can be found in the song writing contributions of other band members. In terms of Noel though, that era represented the best collections of Oasis songs he has written since the 90s IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 16:23:09 GMT -5
What are the chances for an acoustic tour?
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 7, 2015 2:26:26 GMT -5
What are the chances for an acoustic tour? Should be pretty good. Noel never lies or exaggerates right?! But seriously if these November acoustic shows are happening they must be getting announced very soon! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 7, 2015 2:52:11 GMT -5
It wasn't really going to be a tour, was it?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 7, 2015 2:57:11 GMT -5
What are the chances for an acoustic tour? Should be pretty good. Noel never lies or exaggerates right?! But seriously if these November acoustic shows are happening they must be getting announced very soon! Well he's talked about them quite a bit (yeah, I know he did the same with the AA album, but it's not quite the same thing is it?) and also mentiones some "secret stuff" in his instagram post at the end of the tour, so I think they're still happening |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 7, 2015 8:00:45 GMT -5
Double denim?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 7, 2015 8:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by tatomoon on Sept 7, 2015 10:41:43 GMT -5
I think a Little James/Live and Let Die medley would be interesting
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