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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2015 21:04:17 GMT -5
This takes into account all bonus tracks and b-sides from each respective era, and is all inclusive (takes the sound and each song into account and not just the Oasis songs used from the past). Chasing Yesterday is much, much more Oasis for me. Lock All The Doors, The Dying of the Light, While The Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freaky Teeth. It's all fucking Oasis, really. I don't understand why he went solo for this - he would play to stadiums, sell many more records, be adored by many millions, and proper cash in. It's like Noel went from the Premier League to the MLS for retirement, before he really needed to.So yes, Noel was chasing yesterday on this record. But sadly he "knows he can't go back." But it's not alright, Noel. It's not alright at all.
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Post by carryusall on Jul 25, 2015 21:08:24 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday had rocker(s). HFB had Oasis songs, but also sounds more like Oasis to me
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Post by Jessica on Jul 25, 2015 21:12:28 GMT -5
Same guy writing them too. The first one is more HC/DBTT/DOYS. B-sides from NGHFB are very HC. Actually, when he plays Stranded on The Wrong Beach, I think of Force of Nature.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2015 21:32:53 GMT -5
Same guy writing them too. The first one is more HC/DBTT/DOYS. B-sides from NGHFB are very HC. Actually, when he plays Stranded on The Wrong Beach, I think of Force of Nature. You what?
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Post by glider on Jul 25, 2015 21:35:08 GMT -5
If Liam isn't singing a single tune on either album then none of them.
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Post by matt on Jul 25, 2015 21:59:49 GMT -5
Yeah, but the best songs are the ones that wouldn't be on an Oasis record. And we wouldn't have sax solos on it, and even 70s disco influenced Mighty I would be far too modern for Oasis.
Unless you are a sado-masochist, why you'd want him to go back to Oasis just so we are served up half a terrible album by Liam, Andy & Gem is beyond me.
Oasis are finished. Deal with it. The rest of us already have.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 25, 2015 23:34:11 GMT -5
Imagine Liam singing What A Life.
"Wat uh loooffeeeeh *random jargle* *incoherent rant* fookin vagina."
But yeah, Chasing Yesterday for sure. Liam would have been perfect for You Know We Can't Go Back.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 26, 2015 0:37:38 GMT -5
Yeah, but the best songs are the ones that wouldn't be on an Oasis record. And we wouldn't have sax solos on it, and even 70s disco influenced Mighty I would be far too modern for Oasis. Unless you are a sado-masochist, why you'd want him to go back to Oasis just so we are served up half a terrible album by Liam, Andy & Gem is beyond me. Oasis are finished. Deal with it. The rest of us already have.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 26, 2015 1:08:26 GMT -5
Imagine Liam singing What A Life. "Wat uh loooffeeeeh *random jargle* *incoherent rant* fookin vagina." But yeah, Chasing Yesterday for sure. Liam would have been perfect for You Know We Can't Go Back. It'd probably be too high for him. I find it kind of funny when people say that if Liam doesn't sing anything, it doesn't sound like Oasis because A. That's the point. This is a NOEL solo project. Noel has more varied inspirations and is actually able to write songs the way he wants, instead of writing "Oasis songs", if you know what I mean. B. Noel wrote the first 3 Oasis albums and all the best songs. So that's pretty funny C. Really? Because songs like Don't Look Back In Anger, The Importance Of Being Idle etc. are not Oasis? Anyway, I agree with young ragin' Matt here (sorry Matt, it still sounds funny). Oasis are over. Get over it and move on. Noel may not be super experimental, but at least his two albums are really good and especially CY varies a bit with different styles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 4:33:34 GMT -5
Probably his debut.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 26, 2015 15:23:16 GMT -5
I'd have to say that HFB is more like Oasis considering that the album is essentially filed with Oasis outtakes (RM and STC, anyone?) and that many songs from that era (EOTR, RM, SOTWB, and The Good Rebel) seem to be written with Liam in mind. That's not to say that there aren't songs on CY that wouldn't sound good with Liam (LATD, YKWCGB) but there are many songs on there that are moving into a new territory (The Right Stuff, TGWXRE, even BOTMI), which is completely uncharacteristic of Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 21:37:44 GMT -5
NGHFB: The Death of You and Me, Record Machine, The Wrong Beach, Stop the Clocks CY: Lock All the Doors, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freeky Teeth
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Post by matt on Jul 27, 2015 16:05:39 GMT -5
This takes into account all bonus tracks and b-sides from each respective era, and is all inclusive (takes the sound and each song into account and not just the Oasis songs used from the past). Chasing Yesterday is much, much more Oasis for me. Lock All The Doors, The Dying of the Light, While The Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freaky Teeth. It's all fucking Oasis, really. I don't understand why he went solo for this - he would play to stadiums, sell many more records, be adored by many millions, and proper cash in. It's like Noel went from the Premier League to the MLS for retirement, before he really needed to.So yes, Noel was chasing yesterday on this record. But sadly he "knows he can't go back." But it's not alright, Noel. It's not alright at all. Also, be careful what you wish for if you had wanted Oasis to continue... when asked what the album after Dig Out Your Soul would have sounded like on Reddit, Noel replied: " Okay. It would've been half of my first solo record, so "Record Machine" would've probably been on it... "Stop the Clocks" would've probably been on it, and "Dream On" and maybe "Stranded on the Wrong Beach" and then the rest of the guys would've put on some of their own songs." Utterly uninspiring, some of the weakest efforts from the HFB album. Now I don't know about you, but if that's the best that the best songwriter in Oasis could have offered to an 8th album - in addition to the others' contributions, then we would probably have a contender for one of the worst Oasis albums.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 16:11:16 GMT -5
This takes into account all bonus tracks and b-sides from each respective era, and is all inclusive (takes the sound and each song into account and not just the Oasis songs used from the past). Chasing Yesterday is much, much more Oasis for me. Lock All The Doors, The Dying of the Light, While The Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freaky Teeth. It's all fucking Oasis, really. I don't understand why he went solo for this - he would play to stadiums, sell many more records, be adored by many millions, and proper cash in. It's like Noel went from the Premier League to the MLS for retirement, before he really needed to.So yes, Noel was chasing yesterday on this record. But sadly he "knows he can't go back." But it's not alright, Noel. It's not alright at all. Also, be careful what you wish for if you had wanted Oasis to continue... when asked what the album after Dig Out Your Soul would have sounded like on Reddit, Noel replied: " Okay. It would've been half of my first solo record, so "Record Machine" would've probably been on it... "Stop the Clocks" would've probably been on it, and "Dream On" and maybe "Stranded on the Wrong Beach" and then the rest of the guys would've put on some of their own songs." Utterly uninspiring, some of the weakest efforts from the HFB album. Now I don't know about you, but if that's the best that the best songwriter in Oasis could have offered to an 8th album - in addition to the others' contributions, then we would probably have a contender for one of the worst Oasis albums. Wasn't Dig Out Your Soul meant to be the leftovers from Don't Believe The Truth though? By the time it actually came to recording it, Noel started writing songs in the studio again, two of which I think were The Shock Of The Lightning and Falling Down. He may have planned to use those songs for their next album but when they actually started to record the album, I'm sure it would have changed shape several times.
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Post by glider on Jul 27, 2015 16:18:20 GMT -5
This takes into account all bonus tracks and b-sides from each respective era, and is all inclusive (takes the sound and each song into account and not just the Oasis songs used from the past). Chasing Yesterday is much, much more Oasis for me. Lock All The Doors, The Dying of the Light, While The Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freaky Teeth. It's all fucking Oasis, really. I don't understand why he went solo for this - he would play to stadiums, sell many more records, be adored by many millions, and proper cash in. It's like Noel went from the Premier League to the MLS for retirement, before he really needed to.So yes, Noel was chasing yesterday on this record. But sadly he "knows he can't go back." But it's not alright, Noel. It's not alright at all. Also, be careful what you wish for if you had wanted Oasis to continue... when asked what the album after Dig Out Your Soul would have sounded like on Reddit, Noel replied: " Okay. It would've been half of my first solo record, so "Record Machine" would've probably been on it... "Stop the Clocks" would've probably been on it, and "Dream On" and maybe "Stranded on the Wrong Beach" and then the rest of the guys would've put on some of their own songs." Utterly uninspiring, some of the weakest efforts from the HFB album. Now I don't know about you, but if that's the best that the best songwriter in Oasis could have offered to an 8th album - in addition to the others' contributions, then we would probably have a contender for one of the worst Oasis albums. That AMA told us so much that we would never know from a typical staged interview he usually gives. He literally confirmed in his answer that the tunes he penned on DOYS were not (in his opinion) best ones he wanted to save for the solo record, and would still keep the LAG songwriting trinity shitshow going on an 8th Oasis record. It's really obvious that the "drag around the dead horse" theory Doc Lobster mentioned is true. Oasis should've finished (or at least took a long hiatus after Be Here Now (OR in a best case scenario just take a few years off to make the best follow up record to WTSMG) instead of a series of mediocre to lackluster albums.
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Post by World71R on Jul 27, 2015 16:33:30 GMT -5
This takes into account all bonus tracks and b-sides from each respective era, and is all inclusive (takes the sound and each song into account and not just the Oasis songs used from the past). Chasing Yesterday is much, much more Oasis for me. Lock All The Doors, The Dying of the Light, While The Song Remains the Same, You Know We Can't Go Back, Revolution Song, Freaky Teeth. It's all fucking Oasis, really. I don't understand why he went solo for this - he would play to stadiums, sell many more records, be adored by many millions, and proper cash in. It's like Noel went from the Premier League to the MLS for retirement, before he really needed to.So yes, Noel was chasing yesterday on this record. But sadly he "knows he can't go back." But it's not alright, Noel. It's not alright at all. Also, be careful what you wish for if you had wanted Oasis to continue... when asked what the album after Dig Out Your Soul would have sounded like on Reddit, Noel replied: " Okay. It would've been half of my first solo record, so "Record Machine" would've probably been on it... "Stop the Clocks" would've probably been on it, and "Dream On" and maybe "Stranded on the Wrong Beach" and then the rest of the guys would've put on some of their own songs." Utterly uninspiring, some of the weakest efforts from the HFB album. Now I don't know about you, but if that's the best that the best songwriter in Oasis could have offered to an 8th album - in addition to the others' contributions, then we would probably have a contender for one of the worst Oasis albums. That doesn't seem too bad. You don't get songs like What a Life and Broken Arrow, unfortunately, but really good songs like If I Had a Gun..., Everybody's on the Run, and The Death of You & Me are all there in the first half. I'm sure Liam would've sang on three of those first five tracks, with Noel singing on EOTR and TDOYAM, which would've meant a mere two songs for Noel to sing, and that would've been welcome to many. Then you add in the LAG songs, and you'd probably end up with a pretty good track listing like this: - Four Letter Word
- Everybody's on the Run
- Dream On
- If I Had a Gun
- The Death of You & Me
- (I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine
- The Roller
- Stranded on the Wrong Beach
- The Beat Goes On
- Stop the Clocks
- The Morning Son
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Post by Jim G. on Jul 27, 2015 21:29:19 GMT -5
I'm very surprised by the results of this poll. I've always thought of Noel's first solo as a transition from Oasis to his new career. HFB is filled with songs that he'd written during the Oasis time, like Dream On, EOTR, and, obviously, RM and STC. Honestly, for me, it sounds like a better DBTT, in terms of production and sound. And don't get me wrong, I love his first solo.
I think his first solo was made of a lot of songs from the Oasis era, while CY shows him exploring a little bit more - Riverman, Right Stuff, Ballad of the Mighty I. And I assume - or hope - that his next album will be even more different. Hopefully a bit more twisted (with David Holmes producing, a lot of writing in the studio and new ideas?)
Regarding Oasis, I don't understand how people wanted the band to continue, even though we all loved it. Liam was obviously not happy with Noel's authority and Noel could never make the albums he wanted.
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