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Post by Who Is Andy Bell? on Jul 18, 2015 0:14:07 GMT -5
Since Noel seems quite comfortable in releasing albums no less than 3 years apart since the disaster that was Heathen Chemistry, a large part of me assumes 2018. I mean that's 4 straight albums he's done now that have come 3 years after its predecessor. He always says the album is coming sooner than it does, so I don't really buy into what he's saying.
However, having said that, if he actually works on it this summer/fall when he's not touring, then I could see spring 2017. He will still be touring spring 2016, so count that out. This isn't 1995. He's 20 years older, so no matter how good it is he won't want to do 2 album cycles without a break. A fall release would allow for 6 months from end of the tour til he begins promoting the new album. I bet he does Cochella as part of his US tour next year, which takes him through the end of April at least.
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 18, 2015 16:39:43 GMT -5
Remember Russ told someone on here before the RAH gig this year that Noel had another 2 albums worth of material already written, and some crackers were left off CY.
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Post by jaq515 on Jul 18, 2015 17:05:44 GMT -5
Remember Russ told someone on here before the RAH gig this year that Noel had another 2 albums worth of material already written, and some crackers were left off CY. think it was mike rowe wasn't it? either way sure thats pretty standard for any noel album cycle since 94 |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 18, 2015 17:08:59 GMT -5
The fact that he's delaying parts of the tour for next year is kinda weird indeed.
Maybe he's planning a more adventurous record for next year and wants to tour it with gigs already booked in full, with people wanting to see him no matter what he releases because he wasn't around for CY.
It's been a relatively "short" tour for him. He's got no gig after july so there's definitely something happening.
What, we dont know. but i would put my money on an acoustic record. That way he could tour acoustically in Europe and the "traditional" way elsewhere.
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Post by jaq515 on Jul 18, 2015 17:25:51 GMT -5
The fact that he's delaying parts of the tour for next year is kinda weird indeed. Maybe he's planning a more adventurous record for next year and wants to tour it with gigs already booked in full, with people wanting to see him no matter what he releases because he wasn't around for CY. It's been a relatively "short" tour for him. He's got no gig after july so there's definitely something happening. What, we dont know. but i would put my money on an acoustic record. That way he could tour acoustically in Europe and the "traditional" way elsewhere. i agree and said it many times before this tour is so strange very very different for the gallagher model and for any artist tbh.. for me the 3 theories are. 1) is the autumn winter is blocked out for the BHN reissue and acoustic touring / just no active promotion between Oasis and HFB releases. 2) CY was delayed, the AA songwriting / co producing etc etc took longer to sort out behind the scenes. The whole FB launch etc seemed to much to say dates and announce a single / album tracklist 5+ months in advance, then there was lots of 'take over radio shows' (which normally reserved for album launches) all around the golden 'october' launch window, and the mastertapes thing which wouldve made sense if had more than 1 album out (you talk of one but promote another etc) Maybe the album should've launched then, didnt so the spring tour could be those venues re arranging dates he wouldve had to pull. 3) your theory |
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Post by zatine87 on Jul 18, 2015 18:17:46 GMT -5
The fact that he's delaying parts of the tour for next year is kinda weird indeed. Maybe he's planning a more adventurous record for next year and wants to tour it with gigs already booked in full, with people wanting to see him no matter what he releases because he wasn't around for CY. It's been a relatively "short" tour for him. He's got no gig after july so there's definitely something happening. What, we dont know. but i would put my money on an acoustic record. That way he could tour acoustically in Europe and the "traditional" way elsewhere. Don't mean to be pessimistic here, but I think health issues might have been the reason for this relatively 'short' leg. That, and the fact he wants to spent time with his family for their birthdays etc... |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2015 19:58:41 GMT -5
He does this shit every album cycle. I wrote a post about it a few months back, and will not be looking for it because I can't be arsed. But this is just a bunch of bollocks. Oasis will reform before Noel has a chance of writing a new solo album in any case. Yeah, deal with it.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 19, 2015 10:24:08 GMT -5
Remember Russ told someone on here before the RAH gig this year that Noel had another 2 albums worth of material already written, and some crackers were left off CY. That was Mike Rowe. I was one of the guys he said that to. |
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Post by matt on Jul 19, 2015 10:53:07 GMT -5
He does this shit every album cycle. I wrote a post about it a few months back, and will not be looking for it because I can't be arsed. But this is just a bunch of bollocks. Oasis will reform before Noel has a chance of writing a new solo album in any case. Yeah, deal with it. Before he has a chance of writing a new solo album? Heck, he's already recording one. |
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Post by dc on Jul 19, 2015 11:55:32 GMT -5
He does this shit every album cycle. I wrote a post about it a few months back, and will not be looking for it because I can't be arsed. But this is just a bunch of bollocks. Oasis will reform before Noel has a chance of writing a new solo album in any case. Yeah, deal with it. When has he ever taken an extended break in the middle of a tour to record a new album? The fact that he has 5 weeks booked in studio and then plans to resume the tour is very unusual for Noel. The normal routine doesn't see him back in studio until 6 to 12 months after the previous tour has wrapped. I can't imagine a scenario where he has a completed album that sits in the can for a year. Having said that, I can't imagine him dropping a new album in Q12016 and then starting a whole new tour on the heels of, or in the midst of, the CY tour. It'll be very interesting to see what happens between August and January. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 19, 2015 12:13:16 GMT -5
He does this shit every album cycle. I wrote a post about it a few months back, and will not be looking for it because I can't be arsed. But this is just a bunch of bollocks. Oasis will reform before Noel has a chance of writing a new solo album in any case. Yeah, deal with it. Dude get over it. Noel is not going back to Oasis. Besides, they were giving us lackluster albums and greatest hits tours. You yourself often remark on all their album fuck ups between 2000 and 2009. Things are more fresh and modern now. Noel finally seems................happy.   |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 19, 2015 12:14:03 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea what will happen as it doesn't really make sense.
But yeah, neither does holding a press conference in order to announce an album that will come out in 5 months in my eyes.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 20, 2015 4:15:32 GMT -5
He does this shit every album cycle. I wrote a post about it a few months back, and will not be looking for it because I can't be arsed. But this is just a bunch of bollocks. Oasis will reform before Noel has a chance of writing a new solo album in any case. Yeah, deal with it. Dude get over it. Noel is not going back to Oasis. Besides, they were giving us lackluster albums and greatest hits tours. You yourself often remark on all their album fuck ups between 2000 and 2009. Things are more fresh and modern now. Noel finally seems................happy. Although I do enjoy Chasing Yesterday, more so than I've enjoyed any Gallagher album since Be Here Now, I'm not sure the albums he's making now are an awful lot better than the shite we were being served up with Oasis in the 2000's...There's still a lot of filler on both albums imo. Where the Oasis thing is concerned, I'm not bothered about how happy Noel is, or what kind of songs he's writing at that time, to me, it won't happen simply because Liam can't sing Noel's tunes anymore. There'd be no point in Noel reforming the band, having to churn out some upbeat fodder (a la Lock All The Doors) for the token Liam rocky one, and just singing the rest himself because his voice is better these days. May as well stick with HFB. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jul 20, 2015 4:46:11 GMT -5
Although I do enjoy Chasing Yesterday, more so than I've enjoyed any Gallagher album since Be Here Now, I'm not sure the albums he's making now are an awful lot better than the shite we were being served up with Oasis in the 2000's...There's still a lot of filler on both albums imo. Where the Oasis thing is concerned, I'm not bothered about how happy Noel is, or what kind of songs he's writing at that time, to me, it won't happen simply because Liam can't sing Noel's tunes anymore. There'd be no point in Noel reforming the band, having to churn out some upbeat fodder (a la Lock All The Doors) for the token Liam rocky one, and just singing the rest himself because his voice is better these days. May as well stick with HFB. I would say that even if you took Noel's songs from the last 3 Oasis albums and put them on the same record, it wouldn't be half as good as any of the NGHFB releases. Noel is much more inspired than he used to be 10 years ago. I won't even mention the stuff written by the other three... But that's just my opinion. Anyway, since we shouldn't turn this thread into another NGHFB vs. Oasis / Noel vs. Liam kind of thing, does anybody know for how long Noel is planning to record this year? I think he mentioned going back in the studio in September, and he hoped to be finished by the end of the year, but I was wondering if he's really planning to take most of the autumn to record the album. If so, I'm thinking the album could appear much sooner than we expect it to. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 20, 2015 4:49:39 GMT -5
I think both HFB albums are better than anything post Be Here Now. Not by much, but still slightly better. They may not have big hits as Lyla, TIOBI, Little By Little, SCYHO etc. But I feel as if saying that isn't fair. We all know Noel will never enjoy that kind of success again and his best days are behind him blablabla.
Anyway, they're both very solid, with CY being the slightly better one I think. Yes it has The Mexican, and HFB1 has Record Machine and Stop The Clocks, and the bad production on some songs, but none of those songs are as bad as Ain't Got Nothin', The Nature Of Reality, All In The Mind, Better Man etc.
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Post by eleysium on Jul 20, 2015 12:57:55 GMT -5
He's writing the new record as he records it, he said that in an interview. He also has a movie soundtrack coming out (maybe they are one and the same).
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Post by Jim G. on Jul 20, 2015 20:22:14 GMT -5
maybe he'll release the album sometime next year and will play some of the songs on the next leg of the tour? that'd be amazing...but unlikely.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jul 21, 2015 2:38:53 GMT -5
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Post by leak4ever on Jul 21, 2015 4:00:28 GMT -5
Dude get over it. Noel is not going back to Oasis. Besides, they were giving us lackluster albums and greatest hits tours. You yourself often remark on all their album fuck ups between 2000 and 2009. Things are more fresh and modern now. Noel finally seems................happy. Although I do enjoy Chasing Yesterday, more so than I've enjoyed any Gallagher album since Be Here Now, I'm not sure the albums he's making now are an awful lot better than the shite we were being served up with Oasis in the 2000's...There's still a lot of filler on both albums imo. Where the Oasis thing is concerned, I'm not bothered about how happy Noel is, or what kind of songs he's writing at that time, to me, it won't happen simply because Liam can't sing Noel's tunes anymore. There'd be no point in Noel reforming the band, having to churn out some upbeat fodder (a la Lock All The Doors) for the token Liam rocky one, and just singing the rest himself because his voice is better these days. May as well stick with HFB. Out of curiosity, which songs on CY do you consider to be filler? |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 21, 2015 5:19:04 GMT -5
Although I do enjoy Chasing Yesterday, more so than I've enjoyed any Gallagher album since Be Here Now, I'm not sure the albums he's making now are an awful lot better than the shite we were being served up with Oasis in the 2000's...There's still a lot of filler on both albums imo. Where the Oasis thing is concerned, I'm not bothered about how happy Noel is, or what kind of songs he's writing at that time, to me, it won't happen simply because Liam can't sing Noel's tunes anymore. There'd be no point in Noel reforming the band, having to churn out some upbeat fodder (a la Lock All The Doors) for the token Liam rocky one, and just singing the rest himself because his voice is better these days. May as well stick with HFB. Out of curiosity, which songs on CY do you consider to be filler? The Girl With X-Ray Eyes (although I don't mind it) Lock All The Doors The Mexican You Know We Can't Go Back |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 21, 2015 5:54:16 GMT -5
I don't think Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back were meant to be fillers tbh.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 21, 2015 6:17:18 GMT -5
I don't think Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back were meant to be fillers tbh. No me neither, I think there's only The Mexican that he meant to be a filler track. Didn't he say that for a while The Girl With X-Ray Eyes was gonna be the focal point of the album? I just presumed leak was asking me what I considered to be the dud tracks on there. |
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Post by leak4ever on Jul 21, 2015 13:59:48 GMT -5
I don't think Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back were meant to be fillers tbh. No me neither, I think there's only The Mexican that he meant to be a filler track. Didn't he say that for a while The Girl With X-Ray Eyes was gonna be the focal point of the album? I just presumed leak was asking me what I considered to be the dud tracks on there. Perhaps a more pertinent questions is: what defines a filler track? Is it simply a song that is universally regarded as crap? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 14:24:29 GMT -5
No me neither, I think there's only The Mexican that he meant to be a filler track. Didn't he say that for a while The Girl With X-Ray Eyes was gonna be the focal point of the album? I just presumed leak was asking me what I considered to be the dud tracks on there. Perhaps a more pertinent questions is: what defines a filler track? Is it simply a song that is universally regarded as crap? Strictly defined I thought it meant a track that was written, recorded, or placed on an album to make the album substantial enough track wise, i.e. to fill spaces around the good songs/singles...but now it really just means the shit choons generally I think. |
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Post by leak4ever on Jul 21, 2015 22:08:59 GMT -5
Perhaps a more pertinent questions is: what defines a filler track? Is it simply a song that is universally regarded as crap? Strictly defined I thought it meant a track that was written, recorded, or placed on an album to make the album substantial enough track wise, i.e. to fill spaces around the good songs/singles...but now it really just means the shit choons generally I think. So would you consider Little James to be filler? It's generally regarded as a crap song but it was Liam's first tune and certainly significant for him. |
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