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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 11, 2015 10:22:17 GMT -5
Was a thread done about this, but can't find it. Reading an article has brought this question up yet again, over to you people.
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Post by scott1 on Jul 11, 2015 10:57:15 GMT -5
Every band should listen to their fans.
However, the reason that many don't is that there's so many fans that come up with plain shit ideas that they don't even bother making the effort to find the worthwhile ones.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 11, 2015 11:06:46 GMT -5
With fans like Tom Wells out there, it certainly is a tricky one, but yes, I think artists should always be aware of the general opinion of their fans. They don't HAVE to listen to it of course, but so long as they're aware, it could benefit their output hugely. Imagine for instance, a HFB album where the songs sounded more like The Death Of You And Me, and less like If I Had A Gun... If Noel had registered that everyone on here loathes Dave Subpardy (ehh, needs a little work that...) we could have gotten a really great record there. Instead, we got something as underwhelming sonically as Heathen Chemistry was and is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 11:10:10 GMT -5
That depends on how you define 'should'.
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Post by carryusall on Jul 11, 2015 12:27:36 GMT -5
I really don't think bands should listen their fans. I don't think bands work well when they make the kind of music they think their audience wants. Bands need to make the kind of music they want to make and play and listen to, and if it's good enough their audience will catch up
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Post by matt on Jul 11, 2015 12:58:18 GMT -5
I really don't think bands should listen their fans. I don't think bands work well when they make the kind of music they think their audience wants. Bands need to make the kind of music they want to make and play and listen to, and if it's good enough their audience will catch up It's a tough one. I think, for example, Oasis were making the kind of music many fans expected and wanted of them. And the other side of the coin are the fans who had become bored stiffless of them treading the same old worn path. I don't think bands should listen to their fans though. It might be the case they are forced into experimentation because their fans don't want it, and the results are utterly dreadful simply because the band don't have that creative expertise. But then again, any creative expertise may be dulled by a 'brand image and sound' they are expected to maintain because other fans want it. My opinion is the bands should only ever follow their creative instincts. And if those instincts are made up of pushing creative boundaries, then by all means, they must go for it. And my opinion of wanting Noel to do something different isn't made up of what I want, but what I have actually heard from Noel, and judging from his work outside of HFB's and Oasis, he is a man with far more artistic flexibility than many think. I know he has the talent for taking the sound in a different direction - we've all heard it - it's just a case of whether he has the balls. And that's what he lacks. |
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Post by Ross on Jul 11, 2015 13:01:55 GMT -5
Not when making a record, but live i think it's better to have the fans a in mind.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 11, 2015 14:12:21 GMT -5
For live releases? Probably. Studio albums? Hell no.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 11, 2015 14:13:46 GMT -5
No
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Post by Cast on Jul 11, 2015 14:22:12 GMT -5
Honestly in most forms of art, I trust the creators over the audience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 16:23:11 GMT -5
Nope - it would probably reduce the number of Heathen Chemistry's, Mylo Xyloto's etc....but then it would drastically reduce the number of Kid A's and Revolver's.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 11, 2015 16:35:34 GMT -5
Nope - it would probably reduce the number of Heathen Chemistry's, Mylo Xyloto's etc....but then it would drastically reduce the number of Kid A's and Revolver's. I think you meant to put "increase" in the first line, right? Anyway, I agree with both this and Matt. Nothing more to add really, and definitely don't have the ability to phrase it as well as you do  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 16:36:14 GMT -5
Nope - it would probably reduce the number of Heathen Chemistry's, Mylo Xyloto's etc....but then it would drastically reduce the number of Kid A's and Revolver's. Exactly what I was going to say. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 11, 2015 21:17:21 GMT -5
Depends on the bands music, the individuals in the band, the bands audience and what we're specifically talking about. A lot of factors really.
I don't think that Oasis would have really bother listening to fans and for the most part I think that's a good move.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 11, 2015 23:24:09 GMT -5
No, it does not work in this way.
About HC, the problem with HC wasn't because it wasn't experimental, it was because as a return to form it was done in the wrong way, if there was a proper producer on board and some better lyrics, then it would have been a great back to basics album which Noel intended to do at the time, after two layered albums.
But I agree that he should have continued with Spike Stent and that SOTSOG sound.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 13, 2015 3:24:57 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 10:42:13 GMT -5
Absolutely , people who don't agree should then get used to liking " art house type " bands who play for themselves and whoever likes them , ( how can people be so pretentious ) Eddie Van Halen just commented on this , he admits he is not friends with "ddiamond dave" anymore , BUT HE SAYS HE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE TODAY WANT VAN HALEN WITH DAVE AT THE MIC whether he lost his voice or not , HE SAID THE ALTERNATITIVE IS TO PLAY MUSIC ALINE IN YOUR GARAGE ......at 60 he has come to grips with giving people what they want , whether he likes or thinks DAVE is the best for the band it DONT matter ....FANS WANT IT. AND HE IS GIVING IT TO THEM. NOEL SHOULD INLY BE SO WISE. ITS NOT ABOUT MONEY , CHARTS , OR ANYTHING ELSE , ITS ABOUT THE FANS ,GET A CLUE. , OR P,SY IN YOUR GARAGE , THATS ABOUT AS MANY PEOPLE CARE ANYWAY IF YOU DONT GIVE "THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT ". Thank you Edward ....from a FAN
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Post by Ross on Jul 13, 2015 13:06:02 GMT -5
In music there is little worse than a band having a hit album and following it up with an attempted replica. They are almost always poor albums.
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 14, 2015 2:04:03 GMT -5
Not during the creative process but yes (to a certain extent) when it comes to gigs, tours and live/rare releases.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 2:47:41 GMT -5
Not during the creative process but yes (to a certain extent) when it comes to gigs, tours and live/rare releases. That ^^^^^^ See van Halen tour 15 And setlist , it's all for the fans |
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Post by scott1 on Jul 14, 2015 3:16:43 GMT -5
I stand by the opinion that bands should listen to their fans.
However, I also think they have every right not to act on it, but it's definitely good for them to at least know what fans opinions are.
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