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Post by Liffonmelsmork on Apr 10, 2007 16:56:00 GMT -5
I don't mean stop for good. Maybe instead of releasing a series of good, but not amazing albums, they could have had a long break of a few years, then gradually get some new great songs together and form a brilliant comeback album. It would have definitely sold.
If they'd stopped after Morning Glory, they would have left on the highest possible note. Liam's voice would be far less worn, and they'd probably still be wearing parkas. What they did instead is release solid albums which failed to be as life-changing and era-defining as the first two.
If I was in Noel's position I'd have wanted to carry on like he did, he was having the time of his life and I can understand why he didn't want it to stop. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we've got such songs as Songbird, The Importance Of Being Idle and Go Let It Out, but does anyone else ever wonder what it'd be like if Oasis took a break?
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 10, 2007 17:25:31 GMT -5
in all fairness to noel, and any musician/artist, i don't think you realize how shitty something is at the time... ie. be here now
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Post by madfertit on Apr 10, 2007 17:52:24 GMT -5
Well that's fairly easy to answer innit.
take every brilliant post MG tune and stick it on a record. then compare your result to MG.
;D
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Post by ogradym on Apr 10, 2007 18:35:01 GMT -5
all I have to say is: "all my people right here right now, d'you know what I mean?"
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 10, 2007 19:58:49 GMT -5
music, along with most things, is subjective
Personally, i love almost every oasis song. whether it be the sound, or the lyrics, or both.....but you can find good in almost every one of the bands creations
Magic Pie, for example. Not a good song. But a good lyrical line: Those who dont say what they mean Will live and die by their own sword
Noel is a genius.
And since music is so subjective, its hard to tell what is truly shit, y'know? Oasis has helped mold my personality. And im sure the band means more than just music to a lot of other people too. Take it away, and a little bit of yourself dies (as cliche as that might sound)
Just because the general public in the US hates Oasis, doesnt mean they arnt important. Just bc their popularity has decline doesnt mean they should throw in the towel.
Oasis, as im sure you've Noel say many times, does not care about reviews and such. They care about the fans. You. Me. This Board. Us.
If more fans join the bangwagon -- power to them. But the point of music is not a popularity concert. NSYNC was more popular than Oasis will ever be. Does that make them a better band? Where are they now?
"It's not about selling records, it's about being real" ~ Liam Gallagher, TRL, 2000
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Apr 10, 2007 20:14:39 GMT -5
No!
I'd rather listen to my remade mix (added b-sides of that era for some of the weaker tracks) of SOTSOG and all of DBTT than MG anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2007 22:30:37 GMT -5
Be Here Now is pure class, it shows how big Oasis were at the time. No way would I replace it.
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Post by liamholland on Apr 11, 2007 3:22:14 GMT -5
No, i'm not explaining the answer
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Post by Linnhe on Apr 11, 2007 12:49:16 GMT -5
No.
Me neither...
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Post by Liffonmelsmork on Apr 11, 2007 16:26:27 GMT -5
music, along with most things, is subjective Personally, i love almost every oasis song. whether it be the sound, or the lyrics, or both.....but you can find good in almost every one of the bands creations Magic Pie, for example. Not a good song. But a good lyrical line: Those who dont say what they mean Will live and die by their own sword Noel is a genius. And since music is so subjective, its hard to tell what is truly shit, y'know? Oasis has helped mold my personality. And im sure the band means more than just music to a lot of other people too. Take it away, and a little bit of yourself dies (as cliche as that might sound) Just because the general public in the US hates Oasis, doesnt mean they arnt important. Just bc their popularity has decline doesnt mean they should throw in the towel. Oasis, as im sure you've Noel say many times, does not care about reviews and such. They care about the fans. You. Me. This Board. Us. If more fans join the bangwagon -- power to them. But the point of music is not a popularity concert. NSYNC was more popular than Oasis will ever be. Does that make them a better band? Where are they now? "It's not about selling records, it's about being real" ~ Liam Gallagher, TRL, 2000 Aye, I pretty much agree. I was just thinking about what sort of sound they'd have if they'd had a break of about ten years - they wouldn't have Gem or Andy for one thing. I like how their presence clearly breaks the Oasis timeline in to two different sections. If they didn't bring out Be Here Now, SOTSOG, Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe the Truth, then they would've had time to make an album of the greatest songs from those albums, and the b-sides, as well as come up with some great new ones. I'm not sure if anyone will be able to get what I'm on about. Basically I'm glad they didn't stop, but I can't help but wonder what it'd be like if they did.
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Apr 29, 2007 11:30:23 GMT -5
no way man, BHN was great anyone who says different can bite me
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 29, 2007 15:49:31 GMT -5
No, but at the same time yes for a certain point.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Apr 30, 2007 2:28:59 GMT -5
I think "stopped" is the wrong word, but they should have done things differently (for commercial succes): They should have - Released some of their brilliant b-sides on BHN (Stay Young, the Masterplan), instead of putting mediocre songs on the album like My Big Mouth. - Waited till 1998 before releasing BHN. - Played down their own hype. In the end we got all of the songs anyway (on BHN and the Masterplan), so I don't think it really bothers oasis fans. I'm actually glad they aren't that big anymore
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Apr 30, 2007 3:05:28 GMT -5
music, along with most things, is subjective Personally, i love almost every oasis song. whether it be the sound, or the lyrics, or both.....but you can find good in almost every one of the bands creations Magic Pie, for example. Not a good song. But a good lyrical line: Those who dont say what they mean Will live and die by their own sword Noel is a genius. And since music is so subjective, its hard to tell what is truly shit, y'know? Oasis has helped mold my personality. And im sure the band means more than just music to a lot of other people too. Take it away, and a little bit of yourself dies (as cliche as that might sound) Just because the general public in the US hates Oasis, doesnt mean they arnt important. Just bc their popularity has decline doesnt mean they should throw in the towel. Oasis, as im sure you've Noel say many times, does not care about reviews and such. They care about the fans. You. Me. This Board. Us. If more fans join the bangwagon -- power to them. But the point of music is not a popularity concert. NSYNC was more popular than Oasis will ever be. Does that make them a better band? Where are they now? "It's not about selling records, it's about being real" ~ Liam Gallagher, TRL, 2000 You're wrong on the point that it's all about music with oasis. If Noel can make a buck and I can listen to some good tunes, we all win. It was never about the music persay, it was about getting massive for the guys in oasis. They did that. That's why they don;t write earthshattering records any more. I not saying noel wrote songs so he could buy a big house but I'm also not saying he strictly wrote songs to go down in history as a great songwriter/musician. He wrote so he could do drugs, do chicks, and be famous. Mission accomplished. All he HAD to do was write 2 great albums to back himself up so he's not completely full of shit. Everything else after was to make some bucks more than anything else.
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Post by Clint on Apr 30, 2007 10:35:06 GMT -5
oasis is oasis
i like oasis and i like their music. taking a break wouldnt have helped i dont think
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Post by wecker on May 3, 2007 0:26:03 GMT -5
Then someone would wonder if oasis should release an album immediately after MG.
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Post by njsupernova on May 15, 2007 16:05:17 GMT -5
its tough to say what a break would have done. could have just split the band right there.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2007 18:41:56 GMT -5
You're wrong on the point that it's all about music with oasis. If Noel can make a buck and I can listen to some good tunes, we all win. It was never about the music persay, it was about getting massive for the guys in oasis. They did that. That's why they don;t write earthshattering records any more. I not saying noel wrote songs so he could buy a big house but I'm also not saying he strictly wrote songs to go down in history as a great songwriter/musician. He wrote so he could do drugs, do chicks, and be famous. Mission accomplished. All he HAD to do was write 2 great albums to back himself up so he's not completely full of shit. Everything else after was to make some bucks more than anything else. Well said.
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Post by tcrown on May 20, 2007 9:49:57 GMT -5
To learn what would have happened to Oasis if they stopped after Morning Glory just go over to the La's forum. It's just painful how bad people want another album. Myself included. Lee Mavers gets hailed as a genius and Noel oftentimes gets shit on but there is little difference between the two. Noel just happened to be able to move forward.
Every album in the Oasis catalog has its place and I believe they follow a narrative. How could you have the blistering high of Morning glory and not have the drug meltdown of Be Here Now or the withdrawl of SOTSOG.
My 2 cents
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2007 14:24:07 GMT -5
Every album in the Oasis catalog has its place and I believe they follow a narrative. How could you have the blistering high of Morning glory and not have the drug meltdown of Be Here Now or the withdrawl of SOTSOG. HM. Arctic Monkeys?! 2 stellar albums in a row. I doubt they're meltdown though. They'll carry through.
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Post by ev on May 24, 2007 16:39:17 GMT -5
Oasis will never be as big as they were, but that doesn't mean they should stop. Think of the tracks we'd be missing if they took a break. these are the greats I can think of...
Songbird Stop Crying Your Heart Out Go Let It Out Fucking In The Bushes Where Did It All Go Wrong? The Importance of Being Idle D'You Know What I Mean All Around The World Stand By Me Turn Up The Sun Lyla The Girl In The Dirty Shirt
Those are some fucking great tunes. Liam's voice on Heathen Chemistry is waaaaaayy better than DM or MG. DBTT is a very solid record all the way through, but they didn't get the recognition they would have if they came out with that album as rookies.
I'm always suprised how many people disregard HC... it's the album that got me into Oasis... i'd even say it's better than DBTT (not that it's bad)
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Post by Clint on May 24, 2007 23:22:29 GMT -5
Liam's voice on Heathen Chemistry is waaaaaayy better than DM or MG. ...
HAHAHA
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