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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 1, 2015 15:24:30 GMT -5
I'll admit im not a huge fan of his solo work but songs like:
-The right stuff
-The death of you and me
-If I had a gun (demo)
-Fallen angel broken arrow (demo)
They're pure genius imo..it's a pity he doesn't have more of the same as I was pretty disappointed with his new album.
Again this is my opinion but it reminds me of some of his Oasis albums, brilliant at his best but pretty poor when not on form
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 1, 2015 15:27:38 GMT -5
I always love how people think their opinion deserves a complete thread, while the topic has been discussed in various other threads.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 15:29:23 GMT -5
All the songs you mentioned are not only great songs but beautifully recorded as well. The two demos are both superior to the album versions and it's a shame that a lot of the beauty seems to have been squeezed out of them on the record.
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Post by carlober on Jul 1, 2015 15:31:58 GMT -5
I disagree (but I agree with Mean Mrs. Mustard above). In terms of songwriting both the HFB albums are the best thing released by any of the Gallaghers since SOTSOG in 2000, in my opinion. They're not flawless (especially NGHFB), but they're definitely very far from being poor. |
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 1, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -5
Tbh I just think its a shame he couldn't maintain The Right Stuff's quality, that song is brilliant...easily one of his BEST including his Oasis work.
I'd include The Right Stuff and The Death of You and Me among his top 20 of all time..easily. I'd love to hear him singing it live though
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Post by World71R on Jul 1, 2015 16:09:25 GMT -5
All the songs you mentioned are not only great songs but beautifully recorded as well. The two demos are both superior to the album versions and it's a shame that a lot of the beauty seems to have been squeezed out of them on the record. I agree with the If I Had a Gun demo being better than the album version, but the album version of Broken Arrow has something to it that the demo just doesn't get. It's almost like the overproduction fits the song, even though it seems like a simple song on paper. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Jul 1, 2015 16:16:07 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jul 1, 2015 16:17:23 GMT -5
I like the demo version and the studio version of Broken Arrow.
But sadly I've never got a taste for any full version of If I Had A Gun, apart from that soundcheck version from early 2009. That first version we heard was looser, more elegant, a bit slower and sang with what seemed genuine emotion, with the reverb and echo giving it an overall haunted feel. It could - and should - have been a sighful ballad. Ideally then, it would have been better if he had taken the spirit from this one and maybe embellished it a bit more, or recorded a soundcheck straight away with lo-fi recording, and just released it ala Bruce Springsteen and Nebraska.
After that every other version seemed stilted, rigid, and plodding. There's been no full version that has ever satisfied me.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 1, 2015 17:32:17 GMT -5
Might have to listen again, but from what I can remember, all the HFB demoes were crap. (In my humble opinion of course...)
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 1, 2015 17:41:35 GMT -5
Might have to listen again, but from what I can remember, all the HFB demoes were crap. (In my humble opinion of course...) You've just brought back my Freaky Teeth (Demo) nightmares I think. Everybody on The Run If I Had A Gun Broken Arrow I'd pick you everytime Are all well worth going back to |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 1, 2015 17:47:13 GMT -5
Might have to listen again, but from what I can remember, all the HFB demoes were crap. (In my humble opinion of course...) You've just brought back my Freaky Teeth (Demo) nightmares I think. Everybody on The Run If I Had A Gun Broken Arrow I'd pick you everytime Are all well worth going back to Dunno, I heard the If I Had A Gun demo the other day and disliked it immensely. Can't stand I'd Pick You Everytime, and Broken Arrow is pretty much perfect as it is on the record for me, so I'm not sure about a stripped down version. May give Everybody's On The Run a go though, hated it on HFB |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 2, 2015 7:29:57 GMT -5
Might have to listen again, but from what I can remember, all the HFB demoes were crap. (In my humble opinion of course...) but they were not crap.. they were demoes. demoes are not meant to be 'good'. |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 2, 2015 11:40:43 GMT -5
Might have to listen again, but from what I can remember, all the HFB demoes were crap. (In my humble opinion of course...) but they were not crap.. they were demoes. demoes are not meant to be 'good'. Demos are not an excuse to go over the top with reverb. 90% of it is unistenable. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 2, 2015 12:02:51 GMT -5
Criticizing demos, eh ? what next ?
"FFS his sheet lyrics is unreadable, can't believe Noel can't spell and write correctly. A pen ? Buy a macbook you old vagina"
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 2, 2015 12:12:09 GMT -5
but they were not crap.. they were demoes. demoes are not meant to be 'good'. Demos are not an excuse to go over the top with reverb. 90% of it is unistenable. he put em out because he (his management) knew for sure they would all leak at some point. nobody cares about those demoes.. not that's not true. some crazy dudes going mad about them on some forum because Noel's vocal is far from being good. this is why there's a lot of reverb in them,just so he can listen back and not be annoyed by it. do you think he would do 17 takes to get the voice right on the fucking demo... just so it leaks sometimes and 2 students say they're shit? hahaha sorry man, but demoes were never meant to be heard.. now they are (as a gift to the fans or not) but you can't really have a serious opinion about them? can you??! |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 2, 2015 13:49:31 GMT -5
Criticizing demos, eh ? what next ? "FFS his sheet lyrics is unreadable, can't believe Noel can't spell and write correctly. A pen ? Buy a macbook you old vagina" Why is it wrong to have a subjective opinion about a demo recording, good or bad? Why listen to it in the first place then? Fucking wanker! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 13:53:06 GMT -5
The demos in question were actually officially released as part of a DVD so it's understandable to be disappointed if you've paid money for them and don't like them.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the High Flying Birds demos.
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Post by LlAM on Jul 2, 2015 13:55:35 GMT -5
Demos are not an excuse to go over the top with reverb. 90% of it is unistenable. he put em out because he (his management) knew for sure they would all leak at some point. nobody cares about those demoes.. not that's not true. some crazy dudes going mad about them on some forum because Noel's vocal is far from being good. this is why there's a lot of reverb in them,just so he can listen back and not be annoyed by it. do you think he would do 17 takes to get the voice right on the fucking demo... just so it leaks sometimes and 2 students say they're shit? hahaha sorry man, but demoes were never meant to be heard.. now they are (as a gift to the fans or not) but you can't really have a serious opinion about them? can you??! Yes, yes I do have serious opinions about demos. My favourite Oasis related demo is probably Stop Crying Your Heart Out. My least favourite is probably The Death Of You And Me. |
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Post by World71R on Jul 2, 2015 14:13:17 GMT -5
he put em out because he (his management) knew for sure they would all leak at some point. nobody cares about those demoes.. not that's not true. some crazy dudes going mad about them on some forum because Noel's vocal is far from being good. this is why there's a lot of reverb in them,just so he can listen back and not be annoyed by it. do you think he would do 17 takes to get the voice right on the fucking demo... just so it leaks sometimes and 2 students say they're shit? hahaha sorry man, but demoes were never meant to be heard.. now they are (as a gift to the fans or not) but you can't really have a serious opinion about them? can you??! Yes, yes I do have serious opinions about demos. My favourite Oasis related demo is probably Stop Crying Your Heart Out. My least favourite is probably The Death Of You And Me. Don't forget the Where Did it All Go Wrong? demo. That captures the purely dark tone of the song perfectly. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 2, 2015 14:18:33 GMT -5
The The Hindu Times demo!  |
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 2, 2015 14:55:29 GMT -5
I am seriously in awe of The Right Stuff..what a masterpiece..sorry I keep going on about it but its such a great song..which makes me even more disappointed with the rest of the album.
As for the death of you and me demo, I love the album version but the demo is pretty weak imo
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