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Post by icebreath on Apr 25, 2015 5:21:38 GMT -5
...to push him from having a good record into having a worldwide successful and critically acclaimed record?  Obviously i am joking with the opening sentence but please hear me out. I was reading the story about how Green Day lost the master recording of their album "Cigarettes And Valentines" supposed to be released in 2003. Apparently the master recordings were stolen from the studio and they were forced to scrap this album and write new songs for a new album. This new album was the most successful Green Day record "American Idiot". We all know that Noel has pile of songs already written years ago, when he goes into studio. He admitted himself in many interviews. Sadly his new new album, it has good songs in it but not the hits that would make him be a worldwide successful musician. His first album had "What A Life" and it was a hit. Sadly, it was only a hit in the UK mainly. It helped him make very good sales in UK but in the rest of the world, he is still just the guy from Oasis. This situation with the songs that he has, i think it makes him not to push himself into making a great record. We all know how lazy he is. He has these songs from god knows how many years ago and he thinks now that they are good enough to put them on the record. If he had no songs sitting in the desk, i think he would be more creative. He is afraid that if he has to scrap all the old songs, he would have a writer block like he had in the Giants period. Having Lock All The Doors on the album it's an another safe play by Noel. One of the reasons that he is not leaving his comfort zone musically it's this. He has written songs in the Oasis period having a certain style in his mind and he is using these songs in his solo career. One little example to show you what i mean is "The Right stuff". We know that Noel wrote this one for his supposedly first Album with AA. This was just a jam when he wrote it. But this version we have on Chasing Yesterday is vastly different from the AA version. Noel said that he made it more of a psychedelic jazz after he scrapped the AA album. I think that fact somewhat proves my point about Noel using old songs that he has written in the Oasis period.
So the question is: Do you think that Noel having a pile of written songs from the Oasis period is good (commercially or critically) for his solo career or it doesn't matter?Thanks for reading  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:12:51 GMT -5
I dont think Noel on his own would be able to make a worldwide hit during these times, people in general arnt into rock anymore and Noel isnt exactly the biggest name in the industry anymore.
I dont think the song quality is an issue at all, its just simply times have moved on, oasis on the other hand probably could because they are oasis, the name carries a lot in itself and people would be more interested.
its just this weird thing really, maybe Noel can write a wonderwall type song that takes the world by storm again but like I said I dont think it comes down to song quality on its own.
Noel wrote his best work in his 20s like many artists, I think he simply goes back to those old songs because they are still his songs that wernt released.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 11:09:14 GMT -5
very good post tough question , but i guess just like with celebrities , there is no more privacy , the world is a cell phone recording away and in a flash its on TMZ or VIRAL look at our past " celebrities and icons " people talk of the CLINTONS and there scandals well JFK AND THE KENNEDYS would not be AMERICAS FIRST FAMILY they would be americas biggest cheats , theifs , adulteres JFK banged everything that moved, bobby covered it up and the white house press overlooked , teddy killed a girl with his car and was a coward by letting her drown and walking away , anD joe kennedy was a outright crook in bed with the mafia in todays viral world the KENNEDYS WOULDS BE A DISGRACE.... JFK never would have been president and so on also the limited press coverage overlooked FDR GIRLFRIEND OF OVER A DECADE that would never happen today , and he never would have been a 4 term president so just like those examples , in the 60s and 70 s noel could have locked them away , but in this era of ripping , if its available its out there .....world we live in , price celebrities and musicians have to pay if u want to be minted nowadays |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 25, 2015 11:19:01 GMT -5
This sounds like a mission that should include my infamous catsuit  |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 25, 2015 13:37:15 GMT -5
This sounds like a mission that should include my infamous catsuit Can I join you to form a super alliance? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 25, 2015 13:46:21 GMT -5
This sounds like a mission that should include my infamous catsuit Can I join you to form a super alliance? Maybe. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 25, 2015 16:36:13 GMT -5
Honestly, while I like the idea, songs like Lock all the Doors have been cited as highlights by most reviews and were big hits with fans. Noel doesn't have to sound like Oasis to be successfull, but it helps, and if the songs are good enough...it's not like he's milking bad Oasis leftovers just to cling to the fact that he used to be in Oasis - that's what Beady Eye did with DGSS, and we know how that went for them.
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Post by Rain on Apr 25, 2015 18:17:17 GMT -5
If "Big Brother" is watching then don't steal it, buy it! If they're not then steal the whole kit and kaboodle I say! starting to think you're a troll here along zigzag and few others. |
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on Apr 25, 2015 18:58:11 GMT -5
Noel already had his big days. He's still a big artist compared to many, but his days in the limelight are mostly done. That being said, even giant icons like Paul McCartney are in that category, too. No one goes to see McCartney to hear stuff from his new album....though Noel's albums are still really, really good.
Green Day did something I can't think of many others that have done. Lots of bands have a hit years after their "spotlight time", but none quite like Green Day. American Idiot had FOUR huge singles, TEN YEARS AFTER DOOKIE. It was really something else, and honestly I was happy for them. I'll get behind any big rock bands (bar Nickelback) that break through all the pop stars
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Post by brumoscardo on Apr 25, 2015 20:11:39 GMT -5
Are you saying about the US market point of view of the album?
He would only be a hit if he was into hip hop... and that is valid to the UK market as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 21:22:09 GMT -5
When you are in his office to steal his recordings, can take the Mustique Demos too?
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Post by World71R on May 10, 2015 21:14:49 GMT -5
When you are in his office to steal his recordings, can take the Mustique Demos too? ..and the "11 minute, guitar-laden, Zeppelin meets The Beatles" Record Machine.  |
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on May 11, 2015 14:33:42 GMT -5
Are you saying about the US market point of view of the album? He would only be a hit if he was into hip hop... and that is valid to the UK market as well. That's interesting to know. From an American point of view, rock bands do quite well in the UK compared to here. That's just what the media seems to tell us. |
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