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Post by lionsden® on Jan 6, 2007 21:23:05 GMT -5
SOTSOG IS the best album behind DM I listen to it and the B-sides and it beats everything else WTSMG eats it - wonderwll...DLBIA... suck me DM is the best and SOTSOG is the best - replace a couple of tunes and it is the best Carry Us All tells Hello to eat shit Had a few tonight  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 6, 2007 21:26:56 GMT -5
*bitch slap*
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Post by Poshbird05 on Jan 7, 2007 0:27:41 GMT -5
I can see it, replace ICSAL and PYMWYMI with Carry Us All and Let's All Make Believe it would be fucking mega.
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jan 7, 2007 0:30:30 GMT -5
totally agree with you bryan
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Post by Venus In Furs on Jan 7, 2007 3:30:26 GMT -5
If only they had replayed those with b-sides. I love the album but it would have been even more brilliant. As q, put it, it would have given the album an extra star.
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Post by caro on Jan 7, 2007 8:40:37 GMT -5
that's provocative ;D but yes i agree, it's a great album  it contains many jewels (GLIO, Gas Panic, Roll It Over, SMC, WFL....) Carry us all and LAMB are certainly great songs! |
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Post by ToneBender on Jan 7, 2007 23:12:58 GMT -5
That was the height of Noel's songwriting. He abondoned the whole "soul", "stars", "shining" and all that imagery for an entire album. The melodies were great, arrangements great, and the sound quality......man..sonically sotsog and heathen chemistry blow the rest away. I wish they'd stuck with Spike for the mixing of DBTT.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jan 8, 2007 23:44:51 GMT -5
I'm not huge on Carry Us All.
One Way Road, definitely, maybe even Cigarettes In Hell. Certainly Let's All Make Believe should have gone on the album.
Fuck me, Noel wrote some great B-sides back then. How come they're shit all of a sudden?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 9, 2007 0:07:15 GMT -5
bc his a-sides are now fuckin mega
Lyla, LLAB, TIOBI etc piss all over the likes of ICSAL and Little James
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Post by herecomesthenice on Jan 9, 2007 0:12:53 GMT -5
I love 'em all, but if I had to take one era to the grave, I would take the SOTSOG b-sides. Plus, by combining the best SOTSOG demos, b-sides, an album cuts, you could maybe make the best Oasis record to date. Fuckin great stuff there. Plus, it is still the best selling Oasis record in America since the new millenium!
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Post by caro on Jan 9, 2007 3:13:07 GMT -5
I'm not huge on Carry Us All. One Way Road, definitely, maybe even Cigarettes In Hell. Certainly Let's All Make Believe should have gone on the album. Fuck me, Noel wrote some great B-sides back then. How come they're shit all of a sudden? ohhhhhh i love cigs in hell there's a special feeling in this song |
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Post by Moorish on Jan 9, 2007 5:07:57 GMT -5
I agree with much of the above, I think SOTSOG has the gernms of a great record in it but is sunk by the two below-par songs on it and the general half-finished air of the record. It is a bit of a downer as well, but that's no bad thing, they were trying something different.
I actually don't mind PYMWYMI, when the big gosepl backing vocals kick in it sounds pretty good. Noel was VERY LAZY with this song though - he should have written a second verse and got a decent vocal recording from Liam. ICSAL is ballbags, though.
If the album had One Way Road and Let's All Make Believe on it instead then it would be much more highly thought of.
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Post by brandnewrebel on Jan 9, 2007 22:01:08 GMT -5
If only they had replayed those with b-sides. I love the album but it would have been even more brilliant. As q, put it, it would have given the album an extra star. Great point, I wish we all had the chance to watch or listen to some of this songs played live.  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 9, 2007 22:24:32 GMT -5
to be fair, Pass me down the wine is a solid, nice tune
glad it didnt make it on the album though bc its kind of a nonsense tune, just for fun, d'you know what i mean?
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Post by Moorish on Jan 10, 2007 8:08:45 GMT -5
to be fair, Pass me down the wine is a solid, nice tune glad it didnt make it on the album though bc its kind of a nonsense tune, just for fun, d'you know what i mean? Are we still talking about SOTSOG or DBTT? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 10, 2007 12:34:01 GMT -5
i dont really like Carry Us All -- it's the Bona Fide part which i dont like
One Way Road is mega, so is Solve My Mystery and of course LAMB
yeh if those changes were made, SOTSOG would have been ace
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Post by noelliam77 on Jan 10, 2007 13:16:25 GMT -5
how can you deny WTSMG era? Sure we are over ten years removed but you have at least 8 solid tracks (take away hey now and a swamp song). The B-Sides are at least albums worth of A Side material. Acquiesce, the Masterplan, Half the World Away, Rockin Chair, Headshrinker, Talk tonight and Whatever. Those are all Classics, we don't mention these songs as "hey you know what, these b-sides are underrated" These B Sides in the morning glory era are known across as some of thier best stuff. You know you can tell? because most of it ended up in stop the clocks.
Noel has often said that he most of these songs in the back burner. I thought he was full of it, then I saw that footage of them singing All around the World in 93' and I knew he had the catalog ready to go. That is why those early singles where so good. Like little mini albums, at least thats the way I saw them. I never said that of any the SOTSOG singles.
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Post by A on Jan 10, 2007 18:26:02 GMT -5
Aww come on, that's a top song. It's a classic. |
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Post by lionsden® on Jan 10, 2007 19:46:57 GMT -5
how can you deny WTSMG era? Sure we are over ten years removed but you have at least 8 solid tracks (take away hey now and a swamp song). The B-Sides are at least albums worth of A Side material. Acquiesce, the Masterplan, Half the World Away, Rockin Chair, Headshrinker, Talk tonight and Whatever. Those are all Classics, we don't mention these songs as "hey you know what, these b-sides are underrated" These B Sides in the morning glory era are known across as some of thier best stuff. You know you can tell? because most of it ended up in stop the clocks. Noel has often said that he most of these songs in the back burner. I thought he was full of it, then I saw that footage of them singing All around the World in 93' and I knew he had the catalog ready to go. That is why those early singles where so good. Like little mini albums, at least thats the way I saw them. I never said that of any the SOTSOG singles. I was not a big fan of WTSMG when it first came out, and I have said that numerous times here. Don't get me wrong it is a classic record and did grow on me, but it took awhile. I just thought it was a bit soft for my likings at the time As far as SOTSOG goes, I actually like PYMWYMI. I would have taken off Little James and Sunday Morning Call. SMC is just blah IMO. I would have replaced those with One Way Road and Carry Us All, and also added Full On and LAMB to the mix Nothing wrong with a 12 track record |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 10, 2007 20:21:52 GMT -5
my question is, since re-arranging the tracks and adding bsides is obvious to us, why did Noel decide on those crap songs (Little James, ICSAL etc)
did he really think LAMB, Carry Us All, Solve My Mystery, and One Way Road were worse songs?
Surely the Chief wouldnt make a mistake on that magnitude. Surely theres something more behind it?
arg, Oasis would be SO much bigger if it wasnt for some bad track decisions (Masterplan b sides, SOTSOG etc)
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Jan 10, 2007 20:49:41 GMT -5
"full on" is a rocking tune, headshrinker too.
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Post by Moorish on Jan 12, 2007 9:45:36 GMT -5
my question is, since re-arranging the tracks and adding bsides is obvious to us, why did Noel decide on those crap songs (Little James, ICSAL etc) did he really think LAMB, Carry Us All, Solve My Mystery, and One Way Road were worse songs? Both of those songs are there for Liam. Obviously he wrote Little James and Noel wanted to encourage him, so that ended up on the record (and to be fair, while it is a bit twee, it would be better thought of without the awful "toys/noise" couplet). ICSAL was "Liam's favourite" of the tunes that were recorded, cos it was loud and rocky and Liam was moaning that the album in general was too mellow. Which it is a bit, certainly in the second half. Personally I agree with Q - bin ICSAL and replace with LAMB. SOTSOG just got about 10% better. buff up the lyrics on PYMWYMI and Little James - now we're talking! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 12, 2007 21:30:46 GMT -5
agree with you here lisamoorish |
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Post by seanppp on Jan 15, 2007 0:43:19 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree with the *bitch slap* comment.
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Post by liamosz on Jan 16, 2007 23:55:26 GMT -5
Best Oasis, not Best Oasis album, its sound is amazin, clean, i really hope that someday in the future Oasis create an album similar to SOTOG ;D
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