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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 14, 2015 14:27:46 GMT -5
Essentially Noel's shit (and is apparently turning into an "old fart") but nobody could be bothered to say it in the last month
Yes Doctor,I think he'll definitely play the electric version at festivals Not sure about festivals in the UK though,I can see the acoustic version getting to ureached levels of epicness at T In The Park
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 14, 2015 14:58:02 GMT -5
Damn I wanted to hear DLBIA acoustically this time around in the US, I really like it that way
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Post by glider on Apr 14, 2015 14:59:25 GMT -5
He started singing DLBIA electric again though I hope to hear it like that in June. Noel's voice is definitely shocking
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 14, 2015 15:07:26 GMT -5
He started singing DLBIA electric again though I hope to hear it like that in June. Noel's voice is definitely shocking I meant doing. I'm now going to hide behind the excuse that English is not my native language even though that was a relatively simple sentence.
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Post by freddy838 on Apr 14, 2015 15:07:51 GMT -5
I still think his band is a bit dull as well. It would be nice for him to go for a more varied set list like in the few gigs he did after the last tour, he's got such a deep catalogue of quality material, but I can't really complain that much as I'm not going to any gigs. I'm sure I'd enjoy it if I was there.
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Post by glider on Apr 14, 2015 15:11:38 GMT -5
Noel's voice is definitely shocking I meant doing. I'm now going to hide behind the excuse that English is not my native language even though that was a relatively simple sentence. Danke
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 14, 2015 15:12:47 GMT -5
To be honest, I was afraid I might find it boring. I had seen a few gigs and some of them were broadcasted, even the day before, and I knew exactly what was coming and when. I felt it was a stupid thought the moment Noel came on. So what if I knew what song would come when? Didn't stop me from having fun. I wasn't bored in the slightest.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Apr 14, 2015 15:15:29 GMT -5
I agree that the bassist's backing vocals are horrible in places. Does he even hear himself properly ? It's weird cause i thought he was a doing great job during the last tour..
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 14, 2015 15:24:18 GMT -5
To be honest, I was afraid I might find it boring. I had seen a few gigs and some of them were broadcasted, even the day before, and I knew exactly what was coming and when. I felt it was a stupid thought the moment Noel came on. So what if I knew what song would come when? Didn't stop me from having fun. I wasn't bored in the slightest. That's the thing,what if you know what's coming next? You don't stand during DLBIA thinking "yeah but he should change the setlist a little bit,and he should play the electric version of this song" or during CS thinking "yeah but I prefer the original",you just try to sing them as loud as you can,that's what it is about
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 14, 2015 15:26:41 GMT -5
To be honest, I was afraid I might find it boring. I had seen a few gigs and some of them were broadcasted, even the day before, and I knew exactly what was coming and when. I felt it was a stupid thought the moment Noel came on. So what if I knew what song would come when? Didn't stop me from having fun. I wasn't bored in the slightest. That's the thing,what if you know what's coming next? You don't stand during DLBIA thinking "yeah but he should change the setlist a little bit,and he should play the electric version of this song" or during CS thinking "yeah but I prefer the original",you just try to sing them as loud as you can,that's what it is about Exactly! I wasn't going "oh DLBIA is coming in about 3 songs..meh"
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 14, 2015 16:07:12 GMT -5
I personally like Riverman live.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 16:50:31 GMT -5
I agree that the bassist's backing vocals are horrible in places. Does he even hear himself properly ? It's weird cause i thought he was a doing great job during the last tour.. they this performance and he doesnt sound nearly as bad, probably because they have his mic at a more reasonable level, most of the gigs hes way to loud and is essentially doing a duet with noel instead of adding substance if you like. he sounds fine on the HFB 1 songs, probably more like the new songs are just out of his range and hes shouting.
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Post by Gas Panic on Apr 14, 2015 17:03:34 GMT -5
I would totally be cool for Noel to go back to the style of the TCT shows in 2007/2010. I'd say the show I saw in 2010 was the best gig I've ever been to. That O2 show last month was spectacularly average in comparison.
These current shows im not excited about at all. Wake me up when he changes the setlist a bit is how I feel at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2015 17:07:37 GMT -5
Noel's aversion to changing the setlist doesn't bother me. Perhaps that's because I don't download every concert recording and follow him around obsessively anymore or because I only go to one show a tour, but I also think it's because I don't see the big deal in knowing what song is coming next. When I listen to his records, I know what's coming next. If anything, the set list should be judged on how it flows not how many surprises it contains. Most people at the shows have no idea what's coming next anyway.
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Post by drevil21050 on Apr 14, 2015 17:15:32 GMT -5
Noel's aversion to changing the setlist doesn't bother me. Perhaps that's because I don't download every concert recording and follow him around obsessively anymore or because I only go to one show a tour, but I also think it's because I don't see the big deal in knowing what song is coming next. When I listen to his records, I know what's coming next. If anything, the set list should be judged on how it flows not how many surprises it contains. Most people at the shows have no idea what's coming next anyway. Wow i was nearly crucified a month ago about the setlist and my statement that Noel was having issues working out some of the songs he was playing live. Now a lot of people seem to agree. My bet is it will all be worked out by the US tour. WTSRTS will be included and the songs he was struggling with will be perfected. I think the set list will be different for the US tour. Once the US tour is done he will go back to the UK again and everyone will go to his shows again and love it. I think the recent UK tour was just a giant experiment, sound check.
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Post by batfink30 on Apr 14, 2015 18:04:39 GMT -5
Perhaps I'm just a girly fanboy but the two gigs I went to on this tour, Glasgow and the Albert Hall were absolutely fantastic. Two of the best gigs I've ever been to. They beat the two I went to from the first tour hands down and the were far better than any post 2000 Oasis gigs I was at. Perhaps if your at a gig asking if "this is boring" and the bassist shouldn't be doing backing vox" you shouldn't be there. I was too busy singing and dancing!
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Post by frjdoasis on Apr 14, 2015 18:28:24 GMT -5
While the setlist remains the same and it goes on and on and on
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Post by moveonup on Apr 14, 2015 18:38:25 GMT -5
I love it when people justify Liam's bad vocals by saying 'When you are there singing your heart out, nobody gives a shit if he's singing out of tune' and yet with Noel they get all technical and shit...
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 15, 2015 0:32:53 GMT -5
I DON'T WANT TO START A WAR maybe it's cause I went to what has probably been the best gig of the tour so far, but, talking about the atmosphere and the energy in the room and bla bla bla, it wasn't different from the Beady Eye gig I went to All these talks about Noel being boring and not being rock n roll enough, that's not true, at least from my experience anyway
Oh and about him struggling, could somebody point out to me on which songs he's struggling? LATD he doesn't always deliver it perfectly, what else?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 15, 2015 0:33:41 GMT -5
While the setlist remains the same and it goes on and on and on Now this was bad...
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Post by norkbauer on Apr 15, 2015 10:51:57 GMT -5
He's not playing them live cause they tried and they don't sound good Guys,I don't wanna sound too pretentious,but from my personal experience,and I think lots of people on here would agree,if you're judging by those two shows you're missing something Then as I said I thought my live experience was incredible,and it would be good if as many people as possible coould enjoy it as much as I did,but I understand that's not how it works,so what matters is that I had a great time "They don't sound good" I really don't believe in this things, in the same way Oasis didn't play Bag It Up and The Turning on DOYS Tour. I think is just idleness (I'm missing TIOBI too haha) from Noel of try and try something better. I know you can't judge only by two recordings, but at least you can take some notion of how things are going, and I believe how different is a live experience against listen to a bunch of bootlegs, NGHFB' gigs should be fantastic being at the venue. My point here is that I'm feeling something's missing. Could be some technical point or just a lack of inspiration from Noel, I don't know. Maybe the live performances improve with more gigs and I finally get this point that I'm missing, but now I just feel an "okay" with what I listen to. Anyway, can't wait for Brazil dates
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 15, 2015 10:54:12 GMT -5
It's not just that you can't judge from bootlegs (which is true btw),but also that those two gigs are probably the worst two of this tour Paris he was ill and Dussledorf as he said he just wasn't into it
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 15, 2015 11:19:39 GMT -5
Oasis DID soundcheck The Turning and it sounded great. Maybe someone's vocals were the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 11:45:55 GMT -5
I love it when people justify Liam's bad vocals by saying 'When you are there singing your heart out, nobody gives a shit if he's singing out of tune' and yet with Noel they get all technical and shit... I disagree, Liam gets criticised for nearly every performance hes done since about 2003 by most people, if people think he sounds like garbage then they say hes sounds like garbage, dont think Ive ever seen people give him a pass because "hes singing his heart out" thats why I dont mind giving noels stuff abit of criticism because I find a lot people giving noel a free pass on things when quite frankly it could be better, sometimes it seems like Noel can do no wrong because its Noel and Liam can do no right because hes Liam. my comment about Noel not holding notes would be huge problem to people if it was Liam they would be complaining that he keeps cutting off the words and while Noel doesnt do it as bad Liam hes certainly started doing it abit this tour. I still think had the mexican been a beady eye track some people wouldnt of been so kind to it. Im not a noel hater at all, love the guy but he does tend to get favoritism when it comes to some things.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 15, 2015 12:02:12 GMT -5
Again,could somebody point out to me on which songs he's struggling? TDOYAM and LATD on some nights,and maybe CS is a bit too low for him?! what else? He's hardly Freddie Mercury,but he's a solid solid singer,you can't say the same thing for Liam post 90s,and that's a shame cause Liam at his peak is twice the singer Noel will ever be (and I'm saying this as a massive fan of Noel's voice) I have to say when I saw BE Liam's voice was spot on,so it's not like he's off every night...
I think we pay too much attention to things like these,I understand that's what a forum is about after all,but it wouldn't be bad if we could just enjoy things as they are,and I'm saying that for both Noel and Liam
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