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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 21:30:11 GMT -5
Imagine a real fight between Guigsy and Andy Bell. It'd surely be the most low key and laid back fight you'd ever see.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Mar 22, 2015 23:19:45 GMT -5
why do people talk about Oasis reunions when we know they won't happen? Noel has made that so clear Noel's also said that all it takes is money. That's what it'll come down to. They're not the fucking Smiths. There will be a reunion at some point. It doesnt mean an album, a big ass tour, etc.; i.e. a return to what Oasis was. It means a couple of shows and a gigantic payday. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 0:02:39 GMT -5
It was roughly 10 years after the breakup of the Beatles that John Lennon was killed. Liam has told us that he felt the spirit of John Lennon enter his body when he was 17. So, I'm imagining that in late 2019 Liam will have released a solo record with Debbie Gwynther singing some of the songs. He'll be stopped by a fan outside his hotel, asking him to sign the record. Several hours later and the same fan will shoot Liam in a desperate bid for fame. My money's on Beady’s Here Now. Only then will the reunion questions stop. |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 23, 2015 0:06:48 GMT -5
It was roughly 10 years after the breakup of the Beatles that John Lennon was killed. Liam has told us that he felt the spirit of John Lennon enter his body when he was 17. So, I'm imagining that in late 2019 Liam will have released a solo record with Debbie Gwynther singing some of the songs. He'll be stopped by a fan outside his hotel, asking him to sign the record. Several hours later and the same fan will shoot Liam in a desperate bid for fame. My money's on Beady’s Here Now. Only then will the reunion questions stop. I dont know what drugs you're into but sont give me that stuff  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 23, 2015 0:20:02 GMT -5
Agree with that although i think touring musicians dont have much freedom. but he's kinda souless yeah. As for Gem, after what happened to him he'd be happy with just being onstage, i think. Plus, when Noel did his acoustic tour, he was "just" the extra guitarist. Noel made his career, so he'll agree to anything. I have a Blu-ray of Sheryl Crow at home of her soundstage gig where Tim Smith is her lead guitar player. He sounds great and you can feel that there is some kind of connection between them. I don't know how close Noel is to his band members but I can't see or hear a big connection between them. Sometimes when he is about to get emotional on some songs - it's just the next song for the other guys. Do you know what i mean? I can see that kind of connection between Noel and Mike, you can really see it during acoustic gigs But yeah I agree that there was some kind of magic when Gem played lead guitar on Noel's songs, it was like the relationship between them translated into a brilliant and powerful performance |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 23, 2015 2:48:09 GMT -5
It was roughly 10 years after the breakup of the Beatles that John Lennon was killed. Liam has told us that he felt the spirit of John Lennon enter his body when he was 17. So, I'm imagining that in late 2019 Liam will have released a solo record with Debbie Gwynther singing some of the songs. He'll be stopped by a fan outside his hotel, asking him to sign the record. Several hours later and the same fan will shoot Liam in a desperate bid for fame. My money's on Beady’s Here Now. Only then will the reunion questions stop. Sounds reasonable. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Mar 23, 2015 3:03:01 GMT -5
Image a real fight between Guigsy and Andy Bell. It'd surely be the most low key and laid back fight you'd ever see. Luckily I found a video of Guigsy and Andy fighting backstage. |
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on Mar 23, 2015 7:08:52 GMT -5
why do people talk about Oasis reunions when we know they won't happen? Noel has made that so clear Oasis are dead. People need to get over it. RIP.
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 23, 2015 7:27:41 GMT -5
Oasis are dead. People need to get over it. RIP.
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 23, 2015 9:33:16 GMT -5
Oasis are dead. People need to get over it. RIP.
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
In the other album ranking thread, I ranked the Oasis albums that the others had songs on, at the bottom. It's really no surprise as they just weren't good songwriters (as good as Noel anyway). Noel has the ability to produce some horrors (Let There Be Love, Force Of Nature, She Is Love) but in general he's head and shoulders above the other old band members after all, he's one of the best songwriters to come out of the UK. What is interesting is that he seemed to get lazy and his output dropped in terms of quality when the others started writing songs too. I really hope Oasis don't get back together anytime soon, I'm enjoying a revitalised Noel too much and the gigs on this tour have been outstanding. I can't think of anything worse than going back to the stadium shows with Liam whining and strutting around spitting whilst Noel looks bored and all this after they've released a half arsed album with half of it written by the other band members. Noel has to keep plugging away at his solo stuff and producing more interesting and varied albums. I really do think he has another "classic" album in him, it's almost as if he's edging towards it with his solo stuff. |
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Mar 23, 2015 10:26:48 GMT -5
Oasis are dead. People need to get over it. RIP.
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 23, 2015 11:14:45 GMT -5
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
In the other album ranking thread, I ranked the Oasis albums that the others had songs on, at the bottom. It's really no surprise as they just weren't good songwriters (as good as Noel anyway). Noel has the ability to produce some horrors (Let There Be Love, Force Of Nature, She Is Love) but in general he's head and shoulders above the other old band members after all, he's one of the best songwriters to come out of the UK. What is interesting is that he seemed to get lazy and his output dropped in terms of quality when the others started writing songs too. I really hope Oasis don't get back together anytime soon, I'm enjoying a revitalised Noel too much and the gigs on this tour have been outstanding. I can't think of anything worse than going back to the stadium shows with Liam whining and strutting around spitting whilst Noel looks bored and all this after they've released a half arsed album with half of it written by the other band members. Noel has to keep plugging away at his solo stuff and producing more interesting and varied albums. I really do think he has another "classic" album in him, it's almost as if he's edging towards it with his solo stuff. This! Except that I like Let There Be Love and Force Of Nature, but I get the point. |
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Post by liammuc on Mar 23, 2015 13:10:13 GMT -5
I have a Blu-ray of Sheryl Crow at home of her soundstage gig where Tim Smith is her lead guitar player. He sounds great and you can feel that there is some kind of connection between them. I don't know how close Noel is to his band members but I can't see or hear a big connection between them. Sometimes when he is about to get emotional on some songs - it's just the next song for the other guys. Do you know what i mean? I can see that kind of connection between Noel and Mike, you can really see it during acoustic gigs But yeah I agree that there was some kind of magic when Gem played lead guitar on Noel's songs, it was like the relationship between them translated into a brilliant and powerful performance Exactly! Don't look back in anger is another example. Did you hear that guitar solo from the recent Paris gig? Are you kidding me?! It sounds really bad. Just listen to the Noel/Gem acoustic tour version or the late Oasis version from 2008/2009 - it's so much better that it's hurts to hear the recent version. I think he definitely needs to make another acoustic tour very very soon! Come on Noel - just call Gem. He is available and probably already waiting!  |
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Post by ourkidpauluk on Mar 24, 2015 6:01:10 GMT -5
With all due respect guys, Gem wasn't exactly a prolific lead guitarist with Oasis either. A lot of big solo's were unimaginative and dumbed down when Noel sidestepped into Rhythm, and he still did a lot of the major lead sequences like in LF/CS/DLBIA.
Now he's leading the band, he hasnt the luxury of being able to hog all the lead segments.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 24, 2015 6:20:03 GMT -5
I hate that solo in the acoustic version of DLBIA anyway. No matter who plays it. Clapton could play it for all I care and I'd still hate it.
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Post by liammuc on Apr 1, 2015 4:12:56 GMT -5
Still I don't understand why Noel doesn't play all the solos himself! I mean he does it on Ballad of The Mighty I and it sounds awesome! Just like the good old days. So maybe he is really just a lazy bastard nowadays - no change in the setlist and not playing the solos himself...
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Post by 0as1s on Apr 1, 2015 6:41:53 GMT -5
YES. I love Oasis, obviously!!!, but it was time for them to end. I'd much rather get albums full of Noel written songs than patchy effort with contributions from people who weren't even in the band until the earlier 2000s. That, and Liam could not pull off half the songs Noel is writing these days, he just couldn't hit the notes. I agree that Liam's voice is more interesting than Noel's, but at this point his vocals are almost non-functional. People see videos of him and make comments where he sounds MEGA or TOP, but I just don't hear it. Listen to Married With Children, and then listen to Don't Brother Me..
Oasis as we knew them were dead after the giant era. What is an Oasis song? To most, it's Liam singing Noel's brilliant tunes. Even if Oasis were still together, do you really think Liam would be singing Noel's songs?! I doubt it! From Heathen Chemistry to Dig Out Your Soul, this is what we got:
The Hindu Times Stop Crying Your Heart Out (Probably) All in the Mind Lyla Let There be Love (feat. NOEL!)
Bag It Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightening.
That's it. Less than an album's worth of that Noel/Liam combo over the second half of their career. Beady Eye was late Oasis without Noel. High Flying Birds is late Oasis without Liam & Co. The breakup just separated the songs for us. I am very content with how things turned out.
And yes, Liam wrote a couple of simple, but effective songs, but listening to the Beady Eye records, it's obviously they didn't have a GREAT record in them.
In the other album ranking thread, I ranked the Oasis albums that the others had songs on, at the bottom. It's really no surprise as they just weren't good songwriters (as good as Noel anyway). Noel has the ability to produce some horrors (Let There Be Love, Force Of Nature, She Is Love) but in general he's head and shoulders above the other old band members after all, he's one of the best songwriters to come out of the UK. What is interesting is that he seemed to get lazy and his output dropped in terms of quality when the others started writing songs too. I really hope Oasis don't get back together anytime soon, I'm enjoying a revitalised Noel too much and the gigs on this tour have been outstanding. I can't think of anything worse than going back to the stadium shows with Liam whining and strutting around spitting whilst Noel looks bored and all this after they've released a half arsed album with half of it written by the other band members. Noel has to keep plugging away at his solo stuff and producing more interesting and varied albums. I really do think he has another "classic" album in him, it's almost as if he's edging towards it with his solo stuff. 100% these two replies. Well put. As much as it saddens me to think that there won't be another Oasis gig, as things stand it's certainly for the best. There's nothing to suggest that if they did get back together Noel wouldn't go back to relaxed/lazy mode (interpret it how you like), Liam would suddenly recapture even his early millennium voice and LAG would start writing good-great songs consistently. The best and only way a reunion would work for me would be is if the 95-99 line up got back together and thrashed the fuck out of DM, WTSMG, BHN and TM for half a dozen huge gigs, before going back to whatever they were doing beforehand. It would PROBABLY be a nice send off and there'd PROBABLY be no fall outs. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 1, 2015 7:09:31 GMT -5
Still I don't understand why Noel doesn't play all the solos himself! I mean he does it on Ballad of The Mighty I and it sounds awesome! Just like the good old days. So maybe he is really just a lazy bastard nowadays - no change in the setlist and not playing the solos himself... He sees himself as a shit guitarist I think he prefers to play the rhythm guitar on semi-acoustic songs,especially if he's singing And yes of course he's a lazy bastard |
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Post by mememe26 on Apr 2, 2015 16:27:59 GMT -5
Gem would be too profilic to join HFB. Noel likes people who are comfortable taking a back seat, thats probably why the original guitarist bailed out, cos he was too much of public figure. What?! The original guitarist wasn't a public figure at all? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 3, 2015 10:17:50 GMT -5
Gem would be too profilic to join HFB. Noel likes people who are comfortable taking a back seat, thats probably why the original guitarist bailed out, cos he was too much of public figure. What?! The original guitarist wasn't a public figure at all? What original guitarist? |
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Post by caio0016 on Apr 3, 2015 10:19:43 GMT -5
What?! The original guitarist wasn't a public figure at all? What original guitarist? I think Bonehead |
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Post by liammuc on Apr 8, 2015 6:53:03 GMT -5
Still I don't understand why Noel doesn't play all the solos himself! I mean he does it on Ballad of The Mighty I and it sounds awesome! Just like the good old days. So maybe he is really just a lazy bastard nowadays - no change in the setlist and not playing the solos himself... He sees himself as a shit guitarist I think he prefers to play the rhythm guitar on semi-acoustic songs,especially if he's singing And yes of course he's a lazy bastard But he isn't a shit guitar player. All the solos sound best when he plays them - especially the Oasis one's. I think it's what the song means to the original artist instead of having paid musicians do the job. |
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Post by batfink30 on Apr 8, 2015 8:38:15 GMT -5
He sees himself as a shit guitarist I think he prefers to play the rhythm guitar on semi-acoustic songs,especially if he's singing And yes of course he's a lazy bastard But he isn't a shit guitar player. All the solos sound best when he plays them - especially the Oasis one's. I think it's what the song means to the original artist instead of having paid musicians do the job. For all of Noels bluster, I think his self esteem holds him back a bit from truly branching out and trying something completely new. Much in the same way as he sees himself as a shit guitarist. Strange because he carried the Oasis lead guitaring duties for a long time. |
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