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Post by spud on Mar 9, 2015 14:35:01 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it.
Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends?
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 9, 2015 14:41:26 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it. Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends? Perhaps you've grown out of his music? He's moved on musically and you haven't? It happens. From about HC onwards I'd grown sick of Oasis and cringed at a lot of their songs. I've fallen back in love with Noel rock since NGHFB. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 14:48:36 GMT -5
No - it's because you take your fandom of him for granted and that makes the bad seem more prominent.
If someone said all things Noely G were to be taken out of your routine, how would you feel?
Exactly.
Also this is a fan-board, it goes without saying we like Noel...so you're more likely here to have to criticise to make a point that isn't obvious already.
That wot I fink anyway.
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Post by carlober on Mar 9, 2015 14:52:25 GMT -5
Another shit thread by spud AKA thedon?
Oh yes.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 9, 2015 14:58:50 GMT -5
Another shit thread by spud AKA thedon? Oh yes. He really is horrendous. |
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Post by icebreath on Mar 9, 2015 15:03:52 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it. Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends? Perhaps you've grown out of his music? He's moved on musically and you haven't? It happens. From about HC onwards I'd grown sick of Oasis and cringed at a lot of their songs. I've fallen back in love with Noel rock since NGHFB. More likely to be the other way around. That's Noel Gallagher we're talking. He stepped forward musically but with baby steps. He's got long way to be considered that he left the Oasis ghost behind. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 9, 2015 15:10:13 GMT -5
Perhaps you've grown out of his music? He's moved on musically and you haven't? It happens. From about HC onwards I'd grown sick of Oasis and cringed at a lot of their songs. I've fallen back in love with Noel rock since NGHFB. More likely to be the other way around. That's Noel Gallagher we're talking. He stepped forward musically but with baby steps. He's got long way to be considered that he left the Oasis ghost behind. Exactly that. I don't think you'd find anyone who would say CY was a bit to much of a leap for them. |
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 9, 2015 15:15:11 GMT -5
Perhaps you've grown out of his music? He's moved on musically and you haven't? It happens. From about HC onwards I'd grown sick of Oasis and cringed at a lot of their songs. I've fallen back in love with Noel rock since NGHFB. More likely to be the other way around. That's Noel Gallagher we're talking. He stepped forward musically but with baby steps. He's got long way to be considered that he left the Oasis ghost behind. Yeah I agree. I think he's mentally completely left Oasis though. I think he knows he doesn't want them (the hassle) or needs them (creatively). Musically it is baby steps but I think a lot of die hard Oasis and Liam fans seems to be having a hard time realising Oasis is no more and Noel is now a successful solo artist. |
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on Mar 9, 2015 15:16:00 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is the best album in the last 50 years...
Thanks.
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Post by Adam on Mar 9, 2015 15:19:24 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is the best album in the last 50 years... Thanks. I'll raise you. It's the best album in the last 51 years. |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 9, 2015 15:21:09 GMT -5
Chasing Yesterday is the best album in the last 50 years... Thanks. I dont think so DGSS is miles better. Gracias |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 9, 2015 15:22:51 GMT -5
Actually, this time, I think it's a quite philosophical thread. At least,it made me question (my heart and my soul and I think...) myself  And I've come to the conclusion that I can never be even subjectively objective about Noel or Oasis or Liam or Beady Eye anymore. With "subjectively objective" I mean that I don't think I judge Noel or Liam the same way as I judge other people's music. It always - as so often in life - depends on the expectations. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 9, 2015 15:31:53 GMT -5
I like his music and the fact he's got a great sense of humour is just a bonus.
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Post by icebreath on Mar 9, 2015 15:33:15 GMT -5
More likely to be the other way around. That's Noel Gallagher we're talking. He stepped forward musically but with baby steps. He's got long way to be considered that he left the Oasis ghost behind. Yeah I agree. I think he's mentally completely left Oasis though. I think he knows he doesn't want them (the hassle) or needs them (creatively). Musically it is baby steps but I think a lot of die hard Oasis and Liam fans seems to be having a hard time realising Oasis is no more and Noel is now a successful solo artist. It's more difficult for Oasis fans who enjoy both brothers projects equal after Beady Eye split. It's sad that we don't hear any Liam's plans about new music. Noel is having more successful career in terms of sales. Critically he has a long way to establish himself as a successful solo artist. As we see from reviews, the majority still sees him musically the same way they looked him as he was in Oasis. Maybe a little better after the last album (Lock All The Doors didn't help in that aspect). |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 9, 2015 15:44:55 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. I think he's mentally completely left Oasis though. I think he knows he doesn't want them (the hassle) or needs them (creatively). Musically it is baby steps but I think a lot of die hard Oasis and Liam fans seems to be having a hard time realising Oasis is no more and Noel is now a successful solo artist. It's more difficult for Oasis fans who enjoy both brothers projects equal after Beady Eye split. It's sad that we don't hear any Liam's plans about new music. Noel is having more successful career in terms of sales. Critically he has a long way to establish himself as a successful solo artist. As we see from reviews, the majority still sees him musically the same way they looked him as he was in Oasis. Maybe a little better after the last album (Lock All The Doors didn't help in that aspect). Well they won't change their minds even if he released The Dark Side Of The Moon,we can all live with that I suppose |
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 9, 2015 15:50:17 GMT -5
It's more difficult for Oasis fans who enjoy both brothers projects equal after Beady Eye split. It's sad that we don't hear any Liam's plans about new music. Noel is having more successful career in terms of sales. Critically he has a long way to establish himself as a successful solo artist. As we see from reviews, the majority still sees him musically the same way they looked him as he was in Oasis. Maybe a little better after the last album (Lock All The Doors didn't help in that aspect). Well they won't change their minds even if he released The Dark Side Of The Moon,we can all live with that I suppose 90% of reviews compared Riverman to Wonderwall which is absurd. How can you break away from being compared to your old work when reviewers are being lazy and stupid. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 9, 2015 15:59:59 GMT -5
Well they won't change their minds even if he released The Dark Side Of The Moon,we can all live with that I suppose 90% of reviews compared Riverman to Wonderwall which is absurd. How can you break away from being compared to your old work when reviewers are being lazy and stupid. Good point. Also, some so called "journalists" are really biased anyway, so who cares. |
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Post by dadrocker on Mar 9, 2015 16:04:00 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it. Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends? Perhaps you've grown out of his music? He's moved on musically and you haven't? It happens. From about HC onwards I'd grown sick of Oasis and cringed at a lot of their songs. I've fallen back in love with Noel rock since NGHFB. Same happened for me, although after DBTT. DOYS almost doesn't feel like an Oasis album to me because I was into Ryan Adams & The Cardinals big time when it came out. Once they broke up right around the Oasis break-up, I had a favorite-by-committee approach until NGHFB came around. Now his music it hitting me right again. |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 9, 2015 16:21:51 GMT -5
90% of reviews compared Riverman to Wonderwall which is absurd. How can you break away from being compared to your old work when reviewers are being lazy and stupid. Good point. Also, some so called "journalists" are really biased anyway, so who cares. Reading the reviews on this forum, they are so much better than 99% of the official ones I read. I don't even bother reading them anymore since I end up being annoyed by things like the Wonderwall/Riverman "similarity"  And it's not like I read your reviews because they are only positive and worship everything Noel does. They are actually all very critical and far more detailed. |
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Post by magicman on Mar 12, 2015 5:22:19 GMT -5
you're thinking too much man
just enjoy the music and whatever else, end of
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Post by UGHF on Mar 12, 2015 5:33:01 GMT -5
We need more threads like this!
Not enough introspection on this forum.
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Post by shinealight on Mar 12, 2015 6:01:28 GMT -5
what?
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Post by themanwithnoname on Mar 12, 2015 7:16:27 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it. Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends? I was in the same boat towards the end of Oasis but the split reawakened a bit more interest and I have to say that some of the songs on Chasing Yesterday are up there with the best of post-MG Oasis. But yeah, sounds to me as though you're merely a "man with an interest" these days. |
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Post by carryusall on Mar 12, 2015 7:56:14 GMT -5
Like most of us I'm hugely interested in all things Noel. I will always obsess over Oasis, always listen to new material as fast as I can get my hands on it, always read these forums, always read his interviews and always watch him on telly. Yet at the same time I find myself agreeing with his critics, and I barely have a good word to say about him on here. That's a pretty weird phenomenon isn't it? I've heard that Morrissey despises one of his fansites because he gets slagged off so much on it. Am I no longer a fan but merely a man with an interest? Am I only concerned with him because I've invested so much time in him/Oasis, like watching season after season of a TV show that I feel duty-bound to persevere with, mostly out of habit, until it ends? Being a fan doesn't mean mindlessly accepting someone's work. Obviously you're a fan because you've enjoyed the music made by Oasis, but that doesn't mean that you're obliged to love everything the Gallagher brothers out out. That would be the opposite of being a real fan, because then the artist thinks that whatever they do is great and will make complacent work. The fact that you're hanging in there, and giving their new work a fair chance shows you're a real fan. I hope that, in the near future, the brothers Gallagher release some music that can mean as much to you as the work you love. But the old records will always be there |
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And I've come to the conclusion that I can never be even subjectively objective about Noel or Oasis or Liam or Beady Eye anymore. With "subjectively objective" I mean that I don't think I judge Noel or Liam the same way as I judge other people's music. It always - as so often in life - depends on the expectations.
