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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 15:59:46 GMT -5
With the absence of Ant and Dec in the debate, I'm surprised the other leaders didn't slaughter the government at every given opportunity. I suppose four of them were too busy slaughtering Farage.  You could tell that most of the audience disliked him as well. Even if there won't be a formal coalition between Labour and the SNP I'm convinced they'll work together on a vote by vote basis for many issues they agree on. It'll be the closest thing to a coalition without being one. UKIP will be a complete waste of time. 3 or 4 seats is the maximum they'll get and who in their right mind would want that to be a basis for a coalition? A minority government beckons... |
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Post by ManofMisery on Apr 16, 2015 16:13:47 GMT -5
Ed Miliband is only ruling out an SNP coalition to ensure the fearful English labour voters and indeed trying to fight for every last labour vote in Scotland. If or when it comes to it Labour-SNP coalition WILL happen.
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Post by globe on Apr 16, 2015 16:21:50 GMT -5
Miliband and Farage telt by Sturgeon, AGAIN.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 2:54:28 GMT -5
that audience though....they said it was chosen by panel to represent all parties eg non biased, but that audience quite literally applauded and whooped everything that was being said by ed milliband and the SNP but total silence or destruction on Nigel farage.
didnt matter what the point was, there was clearly a total bias in that audience.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 4:37:39 GMT -5
that audience though....they said it was chosen by panel to represent all parties eg non biased, but that audience quite literally applauded and whooped everything that was being said by ed milliband and the SNP but total silence or destruction on Nigel farage. didnt matter what the point was, there was clearly a total bias in that audience. i didn't watch it, but the supporters of all the other parties universally dislike ukip. So you could have had a balanced audience in terms of support per party and it would have been an anti ukip audience. |
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Post by globe on Apr 17, 2015 7:38:28 GMT -5
that audience though....they said it was chosen by panel to represent all parties eg non biased, but that audience quite literally applauded and whooped everything that was being said by ed milliband and the SNP but total silence or destruction on Nigel farage. didnt matter what the point was, there was clearly a total bias in that audience. See if Nick Griffin had been on the panel, do you think he'd have been given lots of applause? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 7:53:29 GMT -5
You don't have to be biased, just sane, to think UKIP is ignorant and regressive. Meanwhile the number of UKIP signs in Southport grows seemingly exponentially.
btw, I think we should be wary of support for SNP or Plaid Cymru as well, nationalism is dangerous in all it's forms...not when fronted by someone like Nigel Farage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 8:00:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 8:29:18 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 17, 2015 8:34:32 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 17, 2015 10:59:15 GMT -5
Nigel farage made a good point about Labour not likely being able to get into power without the SNP votes, that is a major concern for me, they both keep saying they wouldnt do a deal with eachother but we all know if it comes down to winning or losing they will jump at the chance. I agree with Nigel saying that we should be given the chance to have referendum on europe, its quite obvious that labour etc are worried that people will likely say yes to leaving otherwise why would they be saying no to a referendum, its too much of risk to them. Yeah they are worried. They have good reason to be with the dim herds voting that lap up everything something like the Daily Mail puts out. So we could potentially leave Europe with potentially disastrous consequences because you get people with a 'fuck europe' attitude who actually have no idea of the pros or cons. I don't get what you mean by a risk to them? By promising to have a referendum they could garner more votes. I respect them more for it being obvious where there heart actually lies. SNP wouldn't privatise the the NHS tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 11:26:10 GMT -5
Nigel farage made a good point about Labour not likely being able to get into power without the SNP votes, that is a major concern for me, they both keep saying they wouldnt do a deal with eachother but we all know if it comes down to winning or losing they will jump at the chance. I agree with Nigel saying that we should be given the chance to have referendum on europe, its quite obvious that labour etc are worried that people will likely say yes to leaving otherwise why would they be saying no to a referendum, its too much of risk to them. Yeah they are worried. They have good reason to be with the dim herds voting that lap up everything something like the Daily Mail puts out. So we could potentially leave Europe with potentially disastrous consequences because you get people with a 'fuck europe' attitude who actually have no idea of the pros or cons. I don't get what you mean by a risk to them? By promising to have a referendum they could garner more votes. I respect them more for it being obvious where there heart actually lies. SNP wouldn't privatise the the NHS tbh. because Labour (like others) wants to be in the european union, they give people a vote and they vote yes then theyve shot their selves in the foot, if they knew people were happy in europe then they would go "of course lets do this referendum vote for us!" because it would literally be a confirmation of yea we like it in europe case closed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 12:06:22 GMT -5
Yeah they are worried. They have good reason to be with the dim herds voting that lap up everything something like the Daily Mail puts out. So we could potentially leave Europe with potentially disastrous consequences because you get people with a 'fuck europe' attitude who actually have no idea of the pros or cons. I don't get what you mean by a risk to them? By promising to have a referendum they could garner more votes. I respect them more for it being obvious where there heart actually lies. SNP wouldn't privatise the the NHS tbh. because Labour (like others) wants to be in the european union, they give people a vote and they vote yes then theyve shot their selves in the foot, if they knew people were happy in europe then they would go "of course lets do this referendum vote for us!" because it would literally be a confirmation of yea we like it in europe case closed. You will be pleased to know that the Green Party is pro EU and pro referendum. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Apr 17, 2015 12:14:09 GMT -5
Yeah they are worried. They have good reason to be with the dim herds voting that lap up everything something like the Daily Mail puts out. So we could potentially leave Europe with potentially disastrous consequences because you get people with a 'fuck europe' attitude who actually have no idea of the pros or cons. I don't get what you mean by a risk to them? By promising to have a referendum they could garner more votes. I respect them more for it being obvious where there heart actually lies. SNP wouldn't privatise the the NHS tbh. because Labour (like others) wants to be in the european union, they give people a vote and they vote yes then theyve shot their selves in the foot, if they knew people were happy in europe then they would go "of course lets do this referendum vote for us!" because it would literally be a confirmation of yea we like it in europe case closed. The polls I've seen over the last few years have suggested Britain would vote to remain in the Union anyway. But this is an election and a different type of battle. The Tories don't want to leave the union either. They went from saying 'lets get out!' when they wanted peoples votes to Cameron wanting to change the union from within. His big business buddies might not be to happy with leaving. Ukip? Well what do they know of the consequences. They have told me what they will do but not what the possible consequences will be. Ukip's purpose in leaving the union seems to be based around immigration because that is where they are getting a lot there votes. They don't seem to mention much else in relation to it. |
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Post by matt on Apr 17, 2015 13:39:19 GMT -5
Thought the debate was a mess. Can't see UKIP winning more than 3 seats, I think they will be lucky to win that - and that's 3 seats at best. The DUP will probably have more seats than the Greens, UKIP and Plaid Cymru combined. Does anyone else think the Tories will get the most seats and form a minority government, but will get their Queen's Speech (which is delivered late May) voted down, thus putting Labour - being propped up by the SNP - in government? I can see that scenario happening, but if it does, you can guarantee democratic outcry from parts of England in that the largets party - the Tories - aren't in power. With the electorate seeing that as undemocratic, there could be great demand for a re-election, which would happen in the autumn. This may go in favour towards the Tories who may be able to form a majority perhaps? What's more, it would be damaging for the economy - the markets would fall if there is an unstable government. If it happens or not, I think the First Past The Post system is finished, because at the moment, it is a mockery of that system and I hope a PR system would be the way forward. It's difficult to get away from the idea that - what with £1.5 trillion debt and rising, separatist calls, and a voting system that is out of date - this country is fucked whoever is in power.  |
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 17, 2015 21:51:26 GMT -5
I think the First Past The Post system is finished, because at the moment, it is a mockery of that system and I hope a PR system would be the way forward. THIS |
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2015 9:38:48 GMT -5
SNP manifesto launched today. A depressing read for Labour I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 9:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by globe on Apr 20, 2015 10:44:27 GMT -5
SNP manifesto launched today. A depressing read for Labour I guess. Yep, a party that actually believes in what it says, unlike Labour, who say what they think middle England want to hear. |
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2015 11:39:54 GMT -5
SNP manifesto launched today. A depressing read for Labour I guess. Yep, a party that actually believes in what it says, unlike Labour, who say what they think middle England want to hear. I agree. I'm not a fan of SNP by any means, but they are Tony Blair's legacy to Scotland. Only got themselves to blame sadly. |
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Post by globe on Apr 20, 2015 14:25:31 GMT -5
Yep, a party that actually believes in what it says, unlike Labour, who say what they think middle England want to hear. I agree. I'm not a fan of SNP by any means, but they are Tony Blair's legacy to Scotland. Only got themselves to blame sadly. Totally. I voted Yes and I'll be voting SNP in the election. I'm not even a nationalist, but they've done a good job overall at Holyrood and they stand up for what they believe in. Unlike Labour, who I'll never vote for again. Have to laugh at all the rhetoric I read in the English media about the SNP, painting them to be somewhere left of Stalin. Funny reading that when lots of folk up here brand them as the Tartan Tories. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 20, 2015 16:34:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 7:52:31 GMT -5
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Post by globe on Apr 22, 2015 8:48:13 GMT -5
Some of those are belters  Disturbing, but very funny. In other news, I see Ladbrokes are offering 5/6 on the SNP taking 50-59 seats. Oooft. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 9:00:30 GMT -5
Who voted for UKIP?
Come on, own up!
Also, a quick reminded to make sure you're registered to vote. Remember, if you aren't registered for Live4ever, you can't vote in this poll.
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Disturbing, but very funny.
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