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Post by matt on Mar 19, 2015 22:28:50 GMT -5
The highlight of this Tory (sorry, coalition) government has to be the pasty tax. All these privately educated politicians lying about having pasties in train stations and trying to connect with the 'common man' was absolutely hysterical. I lost track of how many U-turns occurred over that period. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty_taxReminded me of that time when Peter Mandelson tried to connect with the common man and it backfired by walking into a chippy and asking for 'haddock and some of that guacamole' (mistaking mushy peas for guacamole!). |
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 20, 2015 0:26:22 GMT -5
Not sure what it's like for you lot (I only follow by television) but although election time is considered "democracy in action", I think it's just insufferable, hollow pandering by increasingly morally/ethically bankrupt suits who are, in many cases, just scheming, self-interested narcissists. Nothing but photo ops, sloganism, empty rhetoric, fear mongering, and lip service. You get these people, so image handled its unbelievable, with promises coming out of every orifice, hoping to reel you in then spit you out.
What makes it worse is that the public seem to suffer from massive amnesia at this time and never remember "this sounds familiar" or seem to think critically about all the things they hear. They never hold politicians to account, and on the odd occasion they do, they are thrown by "shiny" distractions.
I find ideas and society very interesting, but the way it currently is essentially a sham. There's got to be a better way to do it. I've not got the answer yet but these days it just seems all so insincere and I don't take well to that, especially from people who are entrusted with so much power.
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Post by globe on Mar 20, 2015 3:55:01 GMT -5
But Ukip are just Tories. Aye, I saw Farage the other day banging on about getting rid of the "Westminster elite". This coming from a former Tory and commodity broker. Aye OK then Nigel. Prick! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 6:01:14 GMT -5
My prediction: Conservative/UKIP Coalition Which, as a pretty extreme left-winger, is a terrifying prospekt. Will never happen, I can assure you have nothing to worry about. Besides, that wouldn't even form a majority government and would still be a minority - UKIP, at the very best, will win 3 seats. And the Tories and Labour have already ruled out a coalition with the SNP, so the chances of a strong government are nil. The strategy of Labour getting into bed with the SNP is highly unlikely because if English voters see the SNP in government, it will play right into the Tories hands and their opinion polls will soar. But I can see a Labour minority with an 'informal relationship' with the SNP perhaps. What will happen come the Friday morning of the 8th May will be that the country will be in a state of limbo - voting is so fragmented these days that not even two parties getting together will form a majority - certainly no strong majority with significant power is even remotely possible, unless Labour and Tories get together which is never ever going to happen. Whatever the case and whether it's Cameron or Miliband as Prime Minister, it's going to be the weakest, most unstable government for a long long time. And that's fine by me - I don't want Labour or the Tories getting a majority. As an anarchist, perhaps hope is to be found in the crumbling of public support of politics - or maybe people just now think that "alternative" parties will bring alternative results. In any case, the power in this country was sold off to corporate culture a long time ago...Is there anyone who believes the leaders of this country have the peoples interest at heart? It sounds so naïve but it shouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if UKIP surpassed your 3 seat expectation comfortably, public opinion goes to the right and on the beat will go - alienation, paranoia, and loneliness driving a consumerist culture, this time immigrants - maybe then terrorism or social security. This mess we're in... |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 24, 2015 19:51:24 GMT -5
Great news if they're committed to it. I'm not voting Labour, but a Conservative government would be my least preferable choice, so it's a thumbs up from me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 20:01:14 GMT -5
It's good to see that not a single vote has gone to UKIP in the official Live4ever poll. And at least one of the BNP votes was a pisstake as well.
So far this is how it would look if this poll represented the commons in terms of number of seats. That is if we were using the STV system.
Labour 227
Liberal Democrats 98
SNP 98
Conservative 65
Green 65
BNP 65
Other 32
UKIP FUCK ALL
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 13:59:58 GMT -5
Form the official Lib Dem youtube channel:
This is sure to win over the young voters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:12:27 GMT -5
My hometown has always been a safe Lib Dem constituency, but now more and more UKIP signs are appearing.
My anxiety towards this is not helped by the fact that I'm currently three quarters of the way through 1984.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 16:15:41 GMT -5
My hometown has always been a safe Lib Dem constituency, but now more and more UKIP signs are appearing. My anxiety towards this is not helped by the fact that I'm currently three quarters of the way through 1984. That is quite worrying. I haven't seen many up here and the ones that have appeared have been the subject of mockery. Enjoy the rest of 1984. It's a very good, if depressing, read. |
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Post by jakob61907 on Mar 25, 2015 19:42:34 GMT -5
Labour's slogan should be 'It could be worse' I'm a staunch labour supporter, not because I have any particular faith in them, but just because they're the least offensive option. The Tories openly and have always despised the working-classes, the Lib Dems completely turned around and lied to us about tuition fees at the last election, and Ukip are ridiculous. I really can't understand the appeal of Ukip. I can see how, if you were easily led and disenfranchised, the BNP could appeal to white working-class voters who felt the need to kick against something. Not that I'd ever support such a racist party, but I can understand how some people could be tricked into such a bigoted way of thinking. But Ukip are just Tories. They don't give a shit about the working classes either. Ukip are the BNP for people who shop at waitrose. Vote Green then. They probably stand for most things you agree with. |
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Post by carryusall on Mar 25, 2015 20:49:37 GMT -5
Labour's slogan should be 'It could be worse' I'm a staunch labour supporter, not because I have any particular faith in them, but just because they're the least offensive option. The Tories openly and have always despised the working-classes, the Lib Dems completely turned around and lied to us about tuition fees at the last election, and Ukip are ridiculous. I really can't understand the appeal of Ukip. I can see how, if you were easily led and disenfranchised, the BNP could appeal to white working-class voters who felt the need to kick against something. Not that I'd ever support such a racist party, but I can understand how some people could be tricked into such a bigoted way of thinking. But Ukip are just Tories. They don't give a shit about the working classes either. Ukip are the BNP for people who shop at waitrose. Vote Green then. They probably stand for most things you agree with. It's just not a pragmatic vote. Labour have a good chance in my constituency, Greens have none, not sure they've even put forward a candidate, and there's no hope for them nationally. I do support some of their policies, but they're a bit naive, and I don't think their non-environmental policies would work in practise |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 15:11:57 GMT -5
My hometown has always been a safe Lib Dem constituency, but now more and more UKIP signs are appearing. My anxiety towards this is not helped by the fact that I'm currently three quarters of the way through 1984. That is quite worrying. I haven't seen many up here and the ones that have appeared have been the subject of mockery. Enjoy the rest of 1984. It's a very good, if depressing, read. Indeed it is, will be watching the interviews tonight at nine...although I am against the idea of a state, it is telling who the people vote for and why. (Although perhaps this is doublethink?) The rise of UKIP suggests many, not all negative things - people are disenfranchised with mainstream politics which could lead to some progress through alternative thinking. However, it seems this disillusionment has lead to the right rather than the left, in my opinion a great shame. But on the whole I think power was devoured by a capitalist culture, which now rules through corporation and media, a long time ago. Finished 1984, already a favourite of mine - the ending was stunning. This week I will be mostly reading Plato's Republic, and then Animal Farm. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 30, 2015 8:32:51 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 9:45:42 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. Your support has probably just lost Cameron several seats. |
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Post by globe on Mar 30, 2015 10:45:52 GMT -5
Beady's Mighty Eye's favourite Jam song is Eton Rifles.
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2015 10:55:06 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. Hmm.... Just a shame those in employment are getting paid petty wages, with many on zero hour contracts. Disgusting. And it's my age group that can't stand on it's feet thanks to the government. Besides, the employment figures aren't good enough to bring in tax revenue for the government considering how low paid they are. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 30, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. Hmm.... Just a shame those in employment are getting paid petty wages, with many on zero hour contracts. Disgusting. And it's my age group that can't stand on it's feet thanks to the government. Besides, the employment figures aren't good enough to bring in tax revenue for the government considering how low paid they are. So you would raise taxes, then? |
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2015 11:30:05 GMT -5
Hmm.... Just a shame those in employment are getting paid petty wages, with many on zero hour contracts. Disgusting. And it's my age group that can't stand on it's feet thanks to the government. Besides, the employment figures aren't good enough to bring in tax revenue for the government considering how low paid they are. So you would raise taxes, then? Taxes wouldn't need to be raised if the government was creating decent jobs in the first place, but many of us are currently under the wage threshold where we can't pay taxes. It's easy to scorn taxes in the US, but taxes are inevitable and accepted toa degree in the UK given the amount of public services like the NHS. And god knows, we don't want a private healthcare system like the US. Whatever the case, only austerity measures or raising taxes is going to cut out the deficit. Because we are running a deficit, this debt keeps rising and rising and rising. And it's ours to pay back. Preferably taxing the banks would help us considering they got us in this mess. www.debtbombshell.com/ |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 30, 2015 12:59:56 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. You're a fool. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 13:11:03 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. You're a fool. It could have been worse. He could have said: "UKIP ftw. They'll give the UK back its national identity." |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 13:18:00 GMT -5
It could have been worse. He could have said: "UKIP ftw. They'll give they UK back its national identity." If there's one thing this society needs more if it's intolerance and fear. |
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Post by Manualex on Mar 30, 2015 13:34:35 GMT -5
Conservative ftw. From a threatening double dip recession to unemployment around 5.6%. Rule Britannia. You're a fool. At least he didnt said something backward thinking like:"They took our jabs" |
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