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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 21, 2015 15:27:25 GMT -5
Let's play a game. Obviously Beady Eye didn't work out as well as we'd have all liked. But there were some tunes there, no doubt! List the songs that you feel would have been a success, if they were under the same 'Oasis', rather than Beady Eye.
For me:
-Four Letter Word
-Soon Come Tomorrow
-Flick of the Finger
-Soul Love
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 15:30:09 GMT -5
Let's play a game. Obviously Beady Eye didn't work out as well as we'd have all liked. But there were some tunes there, no doubt! List the songs that you feel would have been a success, if they were under the same 'Oasis', rather than Beady Eye. For me: -Four Letter Word -Soon Come Tomorrow -Flick of the Finger -Soul Love Soon Come Tomorrow has some real cheese ball moments. Can't support that nonsense. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 21, 2015 15:38:16 GMT -5
Let's play a game. Obviously Beady Eye didn't work out as well as we'd have all liked. But there were some tunes there, no doubt! List the songs that you feel would have been a success, if they were under the same 'Oasis', rather than Beady Eye. For me: -Four Letter Word -Soon Come Tomorrow -Flick of the Finger -Soul Love Soon Come Tomorrow has some real cheese ball moments. Can't support that nonsense. I'll give you that. The solo is ace, though |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 15:48:16 GMT -5
Soon Come Tomorrow has some real cheese ball moments. Can't support that nonsense. I'll give you that. The solo is ace, though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 18:24:36 GMT -5
Flick Of The Finger.
I think that pretty much wraps this up.
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 21, 2015 18:36:59 GMT -5
The Morning Son closing DOYS? (meaning no Soldier On).
with NG on board, this song one could have been huge.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 18:39:16 GMT -5
The Morning Son closing DOYS? (meaning no Soldier On). with NG on board, this song one could have been huge. Yes, could have been huge. The lyrics do need tweaking. Morning Son rose? Yikes. Boy With The Blues would have ended DOYS better.  |
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 21, 2015 18:40:31 GMT -5
The Morning Son closing DOYS? (meaning no Soldier On). with NG on board, this song one could have been huge. Yes, could have been huge. The lyrics do need tweaking. Morning Son rose? Yikes. Boy With The Blues would have ended DOYS better. man, I was going to say. just switch the title for The Morning Sun and it gets better right away. |
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Post by glider on Feb 21, 2015 19:21:43 GMT -5
I just realized Liam wouldn't sound half bad singing A Simple Game of Genius. Let alone the song itself should've been the closer on NGHFB1.
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Post by World71R on Feb 21, 2015 19:25:35 GMT -5
The Morning Son closing DOYS? (meaning no Soldier On). with NG on board, this song one could have been huge. Yes, could have been huge. The lyrics do need tweaking. Morning Son rose? Yikes. Boy With The Blues would have ended DOYS better. Funny you mention that because Soldier On and Boy With the Blues go together really well when played one after another (SO, then BWTB) because the intro to BWTB is almost the same as the Soldier On outro, except that noise being made is of a higher pitch. It's cool to play them back-to-back, and makes you think "What if?'. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 19:27:40 GMT -5
Yes, could have been huge. The lyrics do need tweaking. Morning Son rose? Yikes. Boy With The Blues would have ended DOYS better. Funny you mention that because Soldier On and Boy With the Blues go together really well when played one after another (SO, then BWTB) because the intro to BWTB is almost the same as the Soldier On outro, except that noise being made is of a higher pitch. It's cool to play them back-to-back, and makes you think "What if?'. For me, Oasis between 2000 and 2009 was "what if?". |
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Post by World71R on Feb 21, 2015 19:41:02 GMT -5
Funny you mention that because Soldier On and Boy With the Blues go together really well when played one after another (SO, then BWTB) because the intro to BWTB is almost the same as the Soldier On outro, except that noise being made is of a higher pitch. It's cool to play them back-to-back, and makes you think "What if?'. For me, Oasis between 2000 and 2009 was "what if?". Dig Out Your Soul, as a whole, was one big "What if?". Whether it be the tour, the tracklisting, or a variety of other things, that album cycle had it all, it seemed. There were brilliant songs, brilliant times, but at the same time, there were some really shitty decisions, and even shittier times. But back to the "What if?"s, I keep thinking of if DOYS would've been just Gallagher-penned album, instead of having Gem & Andy's one track apiece to go with. While I like TBWTL, it would've been interesting to see RM in place of it, COITA instead of TNOR, and then BWTB instead of AGN, but at the end. I think it would've been an even cooler album, as a result, and it's almost weird to think that the two Gallagher brothers were the only ones to nail down the whole concept of the album, without overblowing it. You can definitely tell neither one of those two were adopted just from that.  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 19:43:52 GMT -5
For me, Oasis between 2000 and 2009 was "what if?". Dig Out Your Soul, as a whole, was one big "What if?". Whether it be the tour, the tracklisting, or a variety of other things, that album cycle had it all, it seemed. There were brilliant songs, brilliant times, but at the same time, there were some really shitty decisions, and even shittier times. But back to the "What if?"s, I keep thinking of if DOYS would've been just Gallagher-penned album, instead of having Gem & Andy's one track apiece to go with. While I like TBWTL, it would've been interesting to see RM in place of it, COITA instead of TNOR, and then BWTB instead of AGN, but at the end. I think it would've been an even cooler album, as a result, and it's almost weird to think that the two Gallagher brothers were the only ones to nail down the whole concept of the album, without overblowing it. You can definitely tell neither one of those two were adopted just from that. My dream "Dig Out Your Soul" would be this..................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless version) I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam vocals) Boy With The Blues |
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Post by World71R on Feb 21, 2015 19:46:44 GMT -5
Dig Out Your Soul, as a whole, was one big "What if?". Whether it be the tour, the tracklisting, or a variety of other things, that album cycle had it all, it seemed. There were brilliant songs, brilliant times, but at the same time, there were some really shitty decisions, and even shittier times. But back to the "What if?"s, I keep thinking of if DOYS would've been just Gallagher-penned album, instead of having Gem & Andy's one track apiece to go with. While I like TBWTL, it would've been interesting to see RM in place of it, COITA instead of TNOR, and then BWTB instead of AGN, but at the end. I think it would've been an even cooler album, as a result, and it's almost weird to think that the two Gallagher brothers were the only ones to nail down the whole concept of the album, without overblowing it. You can definitely tell neither one of those two were adopted just from that. My dream "Dig Out Your Soul" would be this..................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless version) I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam vocals) Boy With The Blues Add in (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady, just for how it fits really well into the context of the album, along with how it leads into FD brilliantly, and you have the best Oasis album since BHN. EDIT: Don't forget Liam doing vocals on Come On Outside! |
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Post by glider on Feb 21, 2015 19:55:26 GMT -5
Funny you mention that because Soldier On and Boy With the Blues go together really well when played one after another (SO, then BWTB) because the intro to BWTB is almost the same as the Soldier On outro, except that noise being made is of a higher pitch. It's cool to play them back-to-back, and makes you think "What if?'. For me, Oasis between 2000 and 2009 was "what if?". Noel and co. really screwed up rushing out Be Here Now cause of their fame. They should've waited until at least October of '99 or 2000 like SOTSOG and came out swinging with tunes like Shock of the Lightning, Roll It Over, and Gas Panic. It would've been friggin unbelievable. Can you imagine if Be Here Now looked like this: 1. D'You Know What I Mean? 2. My Big Mouth 3. The Shock of the Lightning 4. Stand By Me (Acoustic full band and strings, like Wonderwall) 5. Gas Panic! 6. I Can See A Liar 7. Fade In-Out 8. I Hope, I Think, I Know 9. Be Here Now 10. Don't Go Away 11. All Around The World 12. Roll It Over ^ Now that is a A+ Oasis album! |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 21, 2015 19:57:24 GMT -5
Dig Out Your Soul, as a whole, was one big "What if?". Whether it be the tour, the tracklisting, or a variety of other things, that album cycle had it all, it seemed. There were brilliant songs, brilliant times, but at the same time, there were some really shitty decisions, and even shittier times. But back to the "What if?"s, I keep thinking of if DOYS would've been just Gallagher-penned album, instead of having Gem & Andy's one track apiece to go with. While I like TBWTL, it would've been interesting to see RM in place of it, COITA instead of TNOR, and then BWTB instead of AGN, but at the end. I think it would've been an even cooler album, as a result, and it's almost weird to think that the two Gallagher brothers were the only ones to nail down the whole concept of the album, without overblowing it. You can definitely tell neither one of those two were adopted just from that. My dream "Dig Out Your Soul" would be this..................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless version) I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam vocals) Boy With The Blues I know you've posted this tracklist a couple of times before but it always gets me thinking about all the Gem/Andy songs from that era that were rejected by Noel. Four Letter Word or Millionaire could have been great additions. At least as b-sides or something. Where they still considering The Roller at this point? Oh well, DOYS is indeed a big 'what if' and 'could have been'. The songs were there. Nevermind all those songs Noel and Gem had demoed at the end of the mixing session, that ended up on the HFB debut, like Soldier Boys (one of my favourites) or Dream On. The Death Of You And Me had apparently been written at that point in time as well! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 20:12:58 GMT -5
My dream "Dig Out Your Soul" would be this..................... Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Come On Outside Falling Down To Be Where There Is Life (Fearless version) I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine (Liam vocals) Boy With The Blues I know you've posted this tracklist a couple of times before but it always gets me thinking about all the Gem/Andy songs from that era that were rejected by Noel. Four Letter Word or Millionaire could have been great additions. At least as b-sides or something. Where they still considering The Roller at this point? Oh well, DOYS is indeed a big 'what if' and 'could have been'. The songs were there. Nevermind all those songs Noel and Gem had demoed at the end of the mixing session, that ended up on the HFB debut, like Soldier Boys (one of my favourites) or Dream On. The Death Of You And Me had apparently been written at that point in time as well! I normally never include those Andy songs because: 1) I'm not exactly sure when they were written 2) Some of them don't fit the mood of DOYS like Millionaire |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 21, 2015 20:22:14 GMT -5
I know you've posted this tracklist a couple of times before but it always gets me thinking about all the Gem/Andy songs from that era that were rejected by Noel. Four Letter Word or Millionaire could have been great additions. At least as b-sides or something. Where they still considering The Roller at this point? Oh well, DOYS is indeed a big 'what if' and 'could have been'. The songs were there. Nevermind all those songs Noel and Gem had demoed at the end of the mixing session, that ended up on the HFB debut, like Soldier Boys (one of my favourites) or Dream On. The Death Of You And Me had apparently been written at that point in time as well! I normally never include those Andy songs because: 1) I'm not exactly sure when they were written 2) Some of them don't fit the mood of DOYS like Millionaire Yeah, I get what you mean. I think Noel has said that they were trying to get a certain 'groove' and flow into the album, rather than chosing the best songs they had. D (without the dot, this seems to be important) Sardy might have had an influence as well. On which hey didn't really fail, but the tunes just lacked quality in the end. Still, there's proof through quotes from interviews that songs like FLW or Millionaire, and many others as well, were indeed written at that time and were around during the recording sessions. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2015 20:27:08 GMT -5
I normally never include those Andy songs because: 1) I'm not exactly sure when they were written 2) Some of them don't fit the mood of DOYS like Millionaire Yeah, I get what you mean. I think Noel has said that they were trying to get a certain 'groove' and flow into the album, rather than chosing the best songs they had. D (without the dot, this seems to be important) Sardy might have had an influence as well. On which hey didn't really fail, but the tunes just lacked quality in the end. Still, there's proof through quotes from interviews that songs like FLW or Millionaire, and many others as well, were indeed written at that time and were around during the recording sessions. I think I remember the Millionaire interview and maybe Kill For A Dream, but I've never seen Four Letter Word linked to DOYS before. Could have been but I don't recall it. |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 21, 2015 20:31:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you mean. I think Noel has said that they were trying to get a certain 'groove' and flow into the album, rather than chosing the best songs they had. D (without the dot, this seems to be important) Sardy might have had an influence as well. On which hey didn't really fail, but the tunes just lacked quality in the end. Still, there's proof through quotes from interviews that songs like FLW or Millionaire, and many others as well, were indeed written at that time and were around during the recording sessions. I think I remember the Millionaire interview and maybe Kill For A Drea, but I've never seen Four Letter Word linked to DOYS before. Could have been but I don't recall it. Will try to post some proof tomorrow...too late now over here for any proper journalistic action! |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 22, 2015 1:58:52 GMT -5
Yeah FLW was mentioned being considered for DOYS sessions.
Evil Eye is very underrated. It has a melody that rivals Noel's ballads. I like BE's version but i think Noel could have made it a bit better.
Then, i'd say Morning Son, Four Letter Word, Soul Love, probably the Roller, which we'll hear someday as Oasis.
That's about it.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 22, 2015 6:23:25 GMT -5
The Morning Son is basically Just Getting Older which was a b-side for Oasis' worst album. I think that kinda says it all.
Four Letter Word could have been a lead single for any 2000s Oasis album, and Flick of the Finger would have been a great surprise from Oasis. Apart from that, The Roller would have been a single on HC at best.
Agreed about Evil Eye - easily overlooked but actually one of my favorites from Beady Eye, easily good enough for any Oasis album post BHN.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Feb 22, 2015 9:56:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you mean. I think Noel has said that they were trying to get a certain 'groove' and flow into the album, rather than chosing the best songs they had. D (without the dot, this seems to be important) Sardy might have had an influence as well. On which hey didn't really fail, but the tunes just lacked quality in the end. Still, there's proof through quotes from interviews that songs like FLW or Millionaire, and many others as well, were indeed written at that time and were around during the recording sessions. I think I remember the Millionaire interview and maybe Kill For A Dream, but I've never seen Four Letter Word linked to DOYS before. Could have been but I don't recall it. Don't think there's any proof it was specifically pitched for DOYS but Andy said it was written in 2007 when he was asked 'Is it about Noel?' Seen a few people mention Come On Outside, has anyone actually heard this? I.e. demos, soundchecks, etc? Seems to have passed me by |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2015 10:01:02 GMT -5
I think I remember the Millionaire interview and maybe Kill For A Dream, but I've never seen Four Letter Word linked to DOYS before. Could have been but I don't recall it. Don't think there's any proof it was specifically pitched for DOYS but Andy said it was written in 2007 when he was asked 'Is it about Noel?' Seen a few people mention Come On Outside, has anyone actually heard this? I.e. demos, soundchecks, etc? Seems to have passed me by Well we know Come On Outside was recorded for DOYS by countless interviews while promoting the album. It was originally going to be the first single before Noel wrote TSOTL. He also claims Liam never laid down vocals for this or Record Machine. That resulted in High Horse and Ain't Got Muffins being on the album sadly. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 22, 2015 10:03:05 GMT -5
Yeah FLW was mentioned being considered for DOYS sessions. Evil Eye is very underrated. It has a melody that rivals Noel's ballads. I like BE's version but i think Noel could have made it a bit better. Then, i'd say Morning Son, Four Letter Word, Soul Love, probably the Roller, which we'll hear someday as Oasis. That's about it. But where was it mentioned. Not saying you are wrong but it's always something people say on this forum but I've never seen an interview where Noel or Andy say that. I heard Andy mention Millionaire and Kill For A Dream. But not four letter word. |
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