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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:00:37 GMT -5
I'm glad to see that most people here love the new album, but for me I find it to be very generic, quite bland production and almost boring. I listened to it as soon as it leaked, skipping 'ITHOTM' and 'BOTMI' and just listened to the other album tracks. If I had to pick a favourite, it would be 'Riverman', but I honestly didn't care for the rest of the album. The lyrics are by the numbers and predictable and one of the songs sounded like a boy band type song. 'BE' is far superior to 'Chasing Yesterday' imo.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 16, 2015 13:04:11 GMT -5
It's fine that you don't like it, everyone has a different taste.
However, I don't get how you can judge the production based on a leak of which the audio quality is barely decent?
Also, if there's one thing you can't say about this album, it's that it's generic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 13:05:06 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree.
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Post by glider on Feb 16, 2015 13:06:23 GMT -5
As @wadfalkirk said, if everyone on here agreed with each other, this forum would be a very boring place.
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:08:23 GMT -5
I did actually think that the leak quality might be part of the reason, and I will definitely re-listen when I get hold of the proper release. But I still wasn't blown away like a lot of people, which is a shame cos I was looking forward to new Noel material.  |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Feb 16, 2015 13:08:50 GMT -5
I like BE but it's far more generic than CY.
But opinions are like arseholes.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 16, 2015 13:09:09 GMT -5
I respectfully find it odd that you point out Noel's lyrics as generic and predictable and then proceed to say BE is a better album.
I'd personally say CYs lyrical content is far superior in a picturesque fashion than that of BE except for the verses of Lock All The Doors.
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:15:21 GMT -5
I respectfully find it odd that you point out Noel's lyrics as generic and predictable and then proceed to say BE is a better album. I'd personally say CYs lyrical content is far superior in a picturesque fashion than that of BE except for the verses of Lock All The Doors. I guess I meant that BE sounded more experimental and less generic instrumentally and production wise. Yeah, there are some quite bad lyrics on BE, I agree. When I first listened to CY, I found myself predicting the rhyming lyrics before I even heard them. |
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 16, 2015 13:19:01 GMT -5
I respectfully find it odd that you point out Noel's lyrics as generic and predictable and then proceed to say BE is a better album. I'd personally say CYs lyrical content is far superior in a picturesque fashion than that of BE except for the verses of Lock All The Doors. I guess I meant that BE sounded more experimental and less generic instrumentally and production wise. Yeah, there are some quite bad lyrics on BE, I agree. When I first listened to CY, I found myself predicting the rhyming lyrics before I even heard them. Nah, there's a world of difference in the song writing between BE and Noel. Noel is on another planet to them on this album. It's mature, intelligent and really great. |
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 16, 2015 13:22:20 GMT -5
What I would say though is that Sitek saved Be slightly with his production covering up the poor song writing. But it can't hide it.
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Post by UGHF on Feb 16, 2015 13:27:20 GMT -5
It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - but the production on some tracks is soooo generic.
It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - but it's not as if he's gone to another level in terms of songwriting.
It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - and I enjoyed it.
But Beady Eye should be applauded, they had their moments.
Disrespectfully,
UGHF
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:33:42 GMT -5
It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - but the production on some tracks is soooo generic. It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - but it's not as if he's gone to another level in terms of songwriting. It's a very good album of very good Noel tracks - and I enjoyed it. But Beady Eye should be applauded, they had their moments. Disrespectfully, UGHF Basically, yeah I can respectfully agree with this. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 16, 2015 13:33:46 GMT -5
Ok, but what are we discussing?
If we're speaking about songwriting, well... honestly, BE had some very good songs but I don't think any of them is as good as the material in Chasing Yesterday. It's quite obvious in my opinion (and I'm not trying to bash Beady Eye here, mind me).
If we're speaking about production, BE was excellent but it's definitely too early to judge Chasing Yesterday until we get the CD or a good rip in our hands.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 16, 2015 13:37:42 GMT -5
It's fine that you don't like it, everyone has a different taste. However, I don't get how you can judge the production based on a leak of which the audio quality is barely decent? Also, if there's one thing you can't say about this album, it's that it's generic. the only songs that could be called generic are lock all the doors and dying of the light but since they dont have liams voice they dont feel as familiar, dyou know what i mean? |
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:39:04 GMT -5
Ok, but what are we discussing? If we're speaking about songwriting, well... honestly, BE had some very good songs but I don't think any of them is as good as the material in Chasing Yesterday. It's quite obvious in my opinion (and I'm not trying to bash Beady Eye here, mind me). If we're speaking about production, BE was excellent but it's definitely too early to judge Chasing Yesterday until we get the CD or a good rip in our hands. On BE, the track 'Off At The Next Exit' really got to me, both due to it's lyrical content and instrumentally. I need both of these things for me to enjoy and fully appreciate a song (apart from if it's an instrumental track). I can sort of get this from only about half of CY. 'Alone On A Rope' is a good example of what I enjoy from Noel's solo output. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 16, 2015 13:42:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't agree either. It's an improvement on HFB as far as I'm concerned and better than BE. I love seeing Noel branching out in this way. That being said, I do enjoy BE almost nearly as much but there's no doubt that this album has the better songs.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 16, 2015 13:42:59 GMT -5
Ok, but what are we discussing? If we're speaking about songwriting, well... honestly, BE had some very good songs but I don't think any of them is as good as the material in Chasing Yesterday. It's quite obvious in my opinion (and I'm not trying to bash Beady Eye here, mind me). If we're speaking about production, BE was excellent but it's definitely too early to judge Chasing Yesterday until we get the CD or a good rip in our hands. On BE, the track 'Off At The Next Exit' really got to me, both due to it's lyrical content and instrumentally. I need both of these things for me to enjoy and fully appreciate a song (apart from if it's an instrumental track). I can sort of get this from only about half of CY. 'Alone On A Rope' is a good example of what I enjoy from Noel's solo output. So if half of CY is good in terms of lyrics and instrumentation but BE is better, does that mean you think more than half of BE delivers both on instrumentation and lyrics? I find that hard to believe. Perhaps I'm ignorant. |
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Post by matt on Feb 16, 2015 13:48:19 GMT -5
BE dabbles in experimental stuff, but only dabbles. It's still constrained by the past and their typical generic influences.
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Post by carlober on Feb 16, 2015 13:52:29 GMT -5
Ok, but what are we discussing? If we're speaking about songwriting, well... honestly, BE had some very good songs but I don't think any of them is as good as the material in Chasing Yesterday. It's quite obvious in my opinion (and I'm not trying to bash Beady Eye here, mind me). If we're speaking about production, BE was excellent but it's definitely too early to judge Chasing Yesterday until we get the CD or a good rip in our hands. On BE, the track 'Off At The Next Exit' really got to me, both due to it's lyrical content and instrumentally. I need both of these things for me to enjoy and fully appreciate a song (apart from if it's an instrumental track). I can sort of get this from only about half of CY. 'Alone On A Rope' is a good example of what I enjoy from Noel's solo output. Off at the Next Exit is one of the finest moments of Beady Eye, that's sure. But in my opinion too many times in BE average lyrical content and/or songwriting was hidden under that really brilliant production. The whole album sounds great and is a pleasure to listen, but many songs aren't able to get me as much as Noel's. Actually, I hear quite a lot of Alone on the Rope-ish moments in Chasing Yesterday... While the Song Remains the Same, for example: brilliant lyrics, great rhythm, nice guitar touches... and it's not even my favourite on the album! |
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:52:44 GMT -5
On BE, the track 'Off At The Next Exit' really got to me, both due to it's lyrical content and instrumentally. I need both of these things for me to enjoy and fully appreciate a song (apart from if it's an instrumental track). I can sort of get this from only about half of CY. 'Alone On A Rope' is a good example of what I enjoy from Noel's solo output. So if half of CY is good in terms of lyrics and instrumentation but BE is better, does that mean you think more than half of BE delivers both on instrumentation and lyrics? I find that hard to believe. Perhaps I'm ignorant. Yeah, sorry but I honestly find BE to be a much more enjoyable album. But that's just me and I understand that most people prefer Noel. Liam's voice is way more pleasurable to my ears, as much as I do love Noel too. As for Noel's first album, I listen to the b-sides and remixes on a regular basis, but haven't listened to the album tracks in about a year. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Feb 16, 2015 13:54:33 GMT -5
It is what it is, you can listen and like it or not, but comparing it especially to Beady Eye or Oasis records doesn't make much sense to me. You can like BE more than CY, but you can't compare it even though there are two brothers in both bands. It's a different type of music really. None music is better than other music. That's the whole beauty of it.
Feel this nonsense, what is a better song: Flick Of The Finger or While The Song Remains The Same. Try to choose and explain why without using the word "but". You're becoming a criminal the minute you do that.
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Post by Regi on Feb 16, 2015 13:54:41 GMT -5
Fifty shades of beige. I can't say I'm disappointed as I wasn't expecting much after hearing the two singles.
An average at best album, marginally better than the last one. No matter how many times people parrot Noel, there is very little creative or innovative about it, and I think many will realise that once the traditional new album hysteria dies down. Noel said it himself - "the music that's being made now is so fucking bland", and he's spot on!
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Post by roy on Feb 16, 2015 13:57:42 GMT -5
off at the next exit is Beady eye's best moment imo, shame its just a track hidden at the end of the deluxe version of an album and not put up top and given a chance to chance as a single and blueprint for where Beady eye could have gone..
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Post by Jack on Feb 16, 2015 13:59:07 GMT -5
Fifty shades of beige. I can't say I'm disappointed as I wasn't expecting much after hearing the two singles. An average at best album, marginally better than the last one. No matter how many times people parrot Noel, there is very little creative or innovative about it, and I think many will realise that once the traditional new album hysteria dies down. Noel said it himself - "the music that's being made now is so fucking bland", and he's spot on! Agreed. |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Feb 16, 2015 14:06:20 GMT -5
fascinating stuff jack
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