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Post by World71R on Sept 10, 2018 23:05:45 GMT -5
I have the opposite taste to the posters above. I like NGHFB better as time passes. Agreed. I listened to it a while ago and it's still a good collection of songs. I agree, but I'm just not a fan of the bloated-at-times production. It sounds nicely grandiose in some places but other songs drown in the layers of sound when they need to be rawer, like Stranded on the Wrong Beach.
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 11, 2018 2:43:22 GMT -5
The AA mixes will be a nice bonus for the Deluxe Special Edition 10th Anniversary Reissue.
By the way, the 10th anniversary will be in 3 years, feel old yet?
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Post by mossy on Sept 11, 2018 3:43:57 GMT -5
The AA mixes will be a nice bonus for the Deluxe Special Edition 20th Anniversary Reissue. By the way, the 10th anniversary will be in 3 years, feel old yet? Corrected using realism.... ;-P COME ON NOEL, YOU’VE GOT THREE WHOLE YEARS TO MIX THIS YOU IDLE BAR STEWARD!!! X
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Post by mossy on Sept 11, 2018 3:45:44 GMT -5
Agreed. I listened to it a while ago and it's still a good collection of songs. I agree, but I'm just not a fan of the bloated-at-times production. It sounds nicely grandiose in some places but other songs drown in the layers of sound when they need to be rawer, like Stranded on the Wrong Beach. As much as I want to hear the AA versions I suspect they won’t be rawer and less bloated ;-P X
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Post by theseventwenty on Sept 11, 2018 8:42:09 GMT -5
The AA mixes will be a nice bonus for the Deluxe Special Edition 10th Anniversary Reissue. By the way, the 10th anniversary will be in 3 years, feel old yet? There's maybe a decent chance of these being the bonus tracks if they do a reissue...he already released all the demos from the album so what else could they include? Except live versions of the tracks, like they did on the Chasing The Sun Oasis reissues. I'd guess it would be a remaster of the album (a remix would be nice, but more work), maybe the AA tracks, the bonus tracks and some live stuff thrown in
I'd LOVE if it came out for a ten year reissue, but I'm not totally convinced they'd do that.
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Post by theseventwenty on Sept 11, 2018 8:43:27 GMT -5
It sounds nicely grandiose in some places but other songs drown in the layers of sound when they need to be rawer, like Stranded on the Wrong Beach.
The idea of the AA version sounding more like Sunny Afternoon by the Kinks that Gaz has mentioned before is REALLY interesting, to me
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 12, 2018 9:52:18 GMT -5
I have the opposite taste to the posters above. I like NGHFB better as time passes. Agreed. I listened to it a while ago and it's still a good collection of songs. Agree. The songs are good, it's just the production that isn't. Should've hired a different producer. Or done it himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 10:20:13 GMT -5
Agreed. I listened to it a while ago and it's still a good collection of songs. Agree. The songs are good, it's just the production that isn't. Should've hired a different producer. Or done it himself. Agree completely with this. The songs are mostly great but the recordings are so plodding and lifeless. Dave Sardy should be prosecuted. Noel (presumably with Paul Stacey) did a much, much better job on Chasing Yesterday. I can listen to that album the whole way through and feel like only 20 minutes have passed.
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Post by mossy on Oct 6, 2018 9:52:27 GMT -5
For anyone who can’t be bothered listening to all the football chat, skip to -16:30 to hear Noel say he’s been listening to the AA album he found in his sock drawer recently and “some of it is really good”. He’s picking it apart in the studio and doing some recording. So sounds some of it may be recycled for album #4. Can’t wait to finally get an official version of Oh Lord! talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1538715600/1538728200/X
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Post by MONO on Oct 6, 2018 10:12:06 GMT -5
Did he run out of ideas for his second Cosmic Pop album? Pretty sure the unaltered AA stuff is better than Noel/David Holmes redoing it.
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Post by mossy on Oct 6, 2018 11:52:03 GMT -5
Did he run out of ideas for his second Cosmic Pop album? Pretty sure the unaltered AA stuff is better than Noel/David Holmes redoing it. It took 4 years to make WBTM by fully writing in the studio so let’s hope they’re relaxing that rule this time. Most of the songs from the AA album sessions have been released already though in their straight or reworked form on his debut album (Record Machine, IIHAG etc.) or Chasing Yestersay (Mighty I, Right Stuff, Mexican). So I believe the only new songs left from those sessions now are Crimson Rambler and possibly Oh Lord. Crimson Ramber was originally written by the AA like The Mexican so would be a contentious one to release on his third album. If he wants to release it he’ll likely want to redo it to stop the AA from getting a writing credit. O Lord doesn’t strike me as something to be getting too excited about no matter what the AA did to it! So maybe he is actually going over the old material to prepare it for release on the HFB 10th anniversary reissue? Unless even more new songs were recorded with the AA than we know about. Either way, amazing to hear him calling it really good again and working on it after all the previous “it’s shit”, “it’s too quiet” and “it was so bad I’ve destroyed it” nonsense! X
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Post by theseventwenty on Oct 6, 2018 12:01:51 GMT -5
For anyone who can’t be bothered listening to all the football chat, skip to -16:30 to hear Noel say he’s been listening to the AA album he found in his sock drawer recently and “some of it is really good”. He’s picking it apart in the studio and doing some recording. So sounds some of it may be recycled for album #3. Can’t wait to finally get an official version of Oh Lord! talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1538715600/1538728200/X 13.30 or so on mine
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Post by mossy on Oct 6, 2018 12:15:57 GMT -5
For anyone who can’t be bothered listening to all the football chat, skip to -16:30 to hear Noel say he’s been listening to the AA album he found in his sock drawer recently and “some of it is really good”. He’s picking it apart in the studio and doing some recording. So sounds some of it may be recycled for album #3. Can’t wait to finally get an official version of Oh Lord! talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1538715600/1538728200/X 13.30 or so on mine Looks like it depends what browser you’re using as to whether it counts up or down. So either: +13:30 -16:30 X
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 12, 2019 11:50:20 GMT -5
I wonder if this is a clip of the AA version of ...Jesus Freaks?
The strings and production sound AA-y to me, unless I'm overthinking
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 12, 2019 12:33:24 GMT -5
I wonder if this is a clip of the AA version of ...Jesus Freaks? The strings and production sound AA-y to me, unless I'm overthinking Over thinking it. Let the past die. Kill it you must.
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 14, 2019 9:11:41 GMT -5
Over thinking it. Let the past die. Kill it you must. NEVER!
It's definitely a different version to the album version though - and the strings sound like the stuff AA uses too
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Post by mossy on Mar 15, 2019 5:26:06 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2019 5:46:54 GMT -5
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 23, 2019 7:01:18 GMT -5
This is the track that Gaz says is “interconnected” to the AA version of Everybody’s On The Run:
“all of the methodology and inspiration of it has gone into our 12 minute epic WE PERSUADE OURSELVES WE ARE IMMORTAL our forthcoming track with Peter Hammill on vocals ... the direction of that will inform you exactly where we went with THAT ONE !”
I can’t wait to hear the full version (and imagine what their take on EOTR would have been like - EPIC I’m sure...)
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Post by matt on Mar 23, 2019 7:43:18 GMT -5
Sounds a bit like Mike Oldfield in places.
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2019 8:24:31 GMT -5
This is the track that Gaz says is “interconnected” to the AA version of Everybody’s On The Run: “all of the methodology and inspiration of it has gone into our 12 minute epic WE PERSUADE OURSELVES WE ARE IMMORTAL our forthcoming track with Peter Hammill on vocals ... the direction of that will inform you exactly where we went with THAT ONE !” I can’t wait to hear the full version (and imagine what their take on EOTR would have been like - EPIC I’m sure...) Nice. The single version of this tune will be stretched from 12 minutes to “album length” in its own right. X
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 23, 2019 10:28:59 GMT -5
The AA are SUCH imaginative producers, it's a crime that we got the stodgy straight versions that we ended up with.
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 23, 2019 10:37:17 GMT -5
Also, re. Gaz's comment about We Persuade Ourselves... and their mix of Everybody's on the Run that they did being closely connected - both tracks are the exact same tempo. I wonder if the new AA track reuses or samples some of the stuff from their EOTR, or if it's a complete coincidence that they're both 77 beats per minute
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Post by mossy on Mar 23, 2019 10:45:16 GMT -5
Also, re. Gaz's comment about We Persuade Ourselves... and their mix of Everybody's on the Run that they did being closely connected - both tracks are the exact same tempo. I wonder if the new AA track reuses or samples some of the stuff from their EOTR, or if it's a complete coincidence that they're both 77 beats per minute Gaz said there was a chance he’d sample material from Noel’s album as Noel wouldn’t know anyway. So maybe. He was likely being flippant when he said that though. He wouldn’t want Noel’s lawyers blocking the release of an album he’s worked on for years. Noel does play on Crossing Over though - another track which will definitely be on their new album. X
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Post by theseventwenty on Mar 23, 2019 10:52:22 GMT -5
He already did that on the two Cartel albums and Noel was happy to take a credit for it and allow it to be released - Noel didn't actually play anything new for those albums, it was just samples from the scrapped Noel album (or it's sessions anyway)
If I was Gaz's label I'd totally want to try and sell this new AA album as "feat. Noel Gallagher" if I could - he's too big of a name NOT to include
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