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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 8:13:12 GMT -5
I don't think he think's it's shit, I thought he was saying when/if us fans hear it we'll say oh it's a bit shit actually. He doesn't seem to give the fanbase much credit really
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 19, 2015 11:04:52 GMT -5
Let's all be honest for 5 minutes. Noel really fucked this opportunity up on so many levels.
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Post by andymorris on May 19, 2015 11:38:47 GMT -5
Let's all be honest for 5 minutes. Noel really fucked this opportunity up on so many levels. Yeah, he fucked up, and knows it. I said in many many threads way back that he seemed worried during the early interviews, especially the facebook broadcast, now it's clear that he was indeed worried : there was that bomb waiting to go off, by putting those tracks on the record, and he knew it. He should have put a little more effort into it, by maybe editing the songs, or trying multiple mixes or turning up the volume ( ). If that was to be a life-changing record, then maybe a few weeks/months wouldn't have been too much effort. Noel never really liked being in the studio for too long, but i guess he's too old to try new stuff now.
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Post by riverman on May 19, 2015 12:09:00 GMT -5
Worried?? U serious? Dude only releases number 1 albums huge tours and can retire whenever he wants. Why do u think he gives a shit? Sure seems to me that he doesn't from those same interviews lol.
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Post by andymorris on May 19, 2015 12:18:38 GMT -5
You probably believed Bill Clinton that day then.
Try reading between the lines sometimes. Noel's more than worried about his career. Especially since gone solo. Being #1 and remaining #1 is a lot of pressure and he said it himself that he was taking a big risk with HFB.
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Post by riverman on May 19, 2015 13:30:47 GMT -5
Awful analogy. But yeah I'm not going to analyze his Facebook interview sorry. Maybe a financial risk in his worries but not what AA thinks he knows his songs are great what's the worry sorry not buying it
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Post by Plantpot on May 19, 2015 14:08:35 GMT -5
You can cut the sexual tension between Noel and Gaz with a knife. This.
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Post by Manualex on May 19, 2015 14:22:18 GMT -5
You can cut the sexual tension between Noel and Gaz with a knife. This. I can hear the girls typing some hot fanfics about NoelxGaz
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Post by gdforever on May 19, 2015 14:26:31 GMT -5
Thanx for the impressive summary. It kinda proves that Noel didn't have any bad words for them except that the moment had passed and he wasn't satisfied, which is his right after all, he puts his name on it. He should have worked with more established producers who got nothing to prove : in this case (DIV for instance), they don't care. I understand the AA being bitter though, a missing opportunity like that can ruin a career, so they're fighting back, that's understandable. As far as calling Noel a thief, that's a stretch... As for the snippet of TDOYAM that we hear in WAL video, it sounds exactly like expected, pseudo pyschedelic and formulaic music. So in a way, i'm glad it's never going to come out. Noel may not be revolutionnary, but the tunes are never disappointing. I don't get the point of them being so vocal tbh. As they say...they are never gonna have as much clout or column inches as Noel. Noel releasing an album with them would have been an amazing opportunity and career advancement in the production field. And it sucks that it didn't work out for them. But being bitter and insulting now can't really be helping their careers... Who wants to work with a person who will insult all of their other work if your album with them doesn't work out? I understand them wanting to have their say. But they have been harping on for weeks...
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Post by andymorris on May 20, 2015 7:49:53 GMT -5
Awful analogy. But yeah I'm not going to analyze his Facebook interview sorry. Maybe a financial risk in his worries but not what AA thinks he knows his songs are great what's the worry sorry not buying it The Clinton thing was just a joke Well yeah, that's what i was implying, financial risk, and fame wise too. Noel's been accused of borrowing for years, and going to court about it could be bad for his career. Especially in an era where the media is after each and every little scandal. As for the facebook thing, i've seen and heard countless of interviews by mister Noel Gallagher over the last 20 years, probably all of them... I even learnt english with his interviews. Something was off that day and he seems rather annoyed sometimes in interviews this time, whilst in the past, he used to wipe them off with a joke, or some good arguments. Just my opinion, but, yeah, something's definitely bothering him. What it is, we cant really say for sure, it's just opinions. peace.
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Post by mossy on May 20, 2015 17:02:36 GMT -5
Awful analogy. But yeah I'm not going to analyze his Facebook interview sorry. Maybe a financial risk in his worries but not what AA thinks he knows his songs are great what's the worry sorry not buying it The Clinton thing was just a joke Well yeah, that's what i was implying, financial risk, and fame wise too. Noel's been accused of borrowing for years, and going to court about it could be bad for his career. Especially in an era where the media is after each and every little scandal. As for the facebook thing, i've seen and heard countless of interviews by mister Noel Gallagher over the last 20 years, probably all of them... I even learnt english with his interviews. Something was off that day and he seems rather annoyed sometimes in interviews this time, whilst in the past, he used to wipe them off with a joke, or some good arguments. Just my opinion, but, yeah, something's definitely bothering him. What it is, we cant really say for sure, it's just opinions. peace. For a man who learnt how to speak English from Noel Gallagher you say "fuck" suprisingly rarely ;-)
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Post by andymorris on May 21, 2015 1:20:37 GMT -5
The Clinton thing was just a joke Well yeah, that's what i was implying, financial risk, and fame wise too. Noel's been accused of borrowing for years, and going to court about it could be bad for his career. Especially in an era where the media is after each and every little scandal. As for the facebook thing, i've seen and heard countless of interviews by mister Noel Gallagher over the last 20 years, probably all of them... I even learnt english with his interviews. Something was off that day and he seems rather annoyed sometimes in interviews this time, whilst in the past, he used to wipe them off with a joke, or some good arguments. Just my opinion, but, yeah, something's definitely bothering him. What it is, we cant really say for sure, it's just opinions. peace. For a man who learnt how to speak English from Noel Gallagher you say "fuck" suprisingly rarely ;-) I have some manners I do say shiiiine a lot though. Weird thing is understand the manc accent better than the "ordinary" english accent, the one you hear on tv.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 21, 2015 6:24:13 GMT -5
What now really pisses me off is that Noel and the AA had a rebound/make good project in the works after the "failed AA" sessions. That being the "remix/reimagined" Chasing Yesterday. Now that is blown to hell as well. Very frustrating.
Why do all of Noel's ambitious projects die a cruel death?
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Post by mossy on May 21, 2015 6:32:04 GMT -5
I can hear the girls typing some hot fanfics about NoelxGaz Beads of sweat began to form on Noel's brow. "I'm not sure about this Gaz" he whispered. Gaz looked stern. "Noel, to be a true artist you have to try new things. They might be scary at first, but they'll make you better and stronger." Noel looked apprehensive. "It's just too long Gaz!" "Nonsense! I'd be happier if it was longer to be honest with you!" Noel looked pained. "It just won't fit!" he exclaimed. "Goddamit Noel, if we can't fit this 37 minute version of The Mexican on there we'll just make it a double album!"
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 21, 2015 6:50:34 GMT -5
I can hear the girls typing some hot fanfics about NoelxGaz Beads of sweat began to form on Noel's brow. "I'm not sure about this Gaz" he whispered. Gaz looked stern. "Noel, to be a true artist you have to try new things. They might be scary at first, but they'll make you better and stronger." Noel looked apprehensive. "It's just too long Gaz!" "Nonsense! I'd be happier if it was longer to be honest with you!" Noel looked pained. "It just won't fit!" he exclaimed. "Goddamit Noel, if we can't fit this 37 minute version of The Mexican on there we'll just make it a double album!" You and matt should write a book, really. I'd buy it. Which says a lot really, since I haven't even bought Noels album yet.
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Post by Jim on May 21, 2015 7:00:35 GMT -5
What now really pisses me off is that Noel and the AA had a rebound/make good project in the works after the "failed AA" sessions. That being the "remix/reimagined" Chasing Yesterday. Now that is blown to hell as well. Very frustrating. Why do all of Noel's ambitious projects die a cruel death? After the original sessions Noel also played on 5 of the AA's tracks for their album, The Cartel in late 2013, so things must have cool between them right up until it came to light which versions of The Right Stuff and The Mexican were being released, especially if they were reworking the whole of Chasing Yesterday. It's a disappointing situation to watch unfold, especially as we don't know the proper background to it all. Apart from The Right Stuff, the album hasn't really grown on me. It's good but my favourite two songs from the cycle have been the Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes of Riverman and Mighty I. If the AA are out the window then these guys maybe the ones to take Noel out of his comfort zone.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 7:04:09 GMT -5
I can hear the girls typing some hot fanfics about NoelxGaz Beads of sweat began to form on Noel's brow. "I'm not sure about this Gaz" he whispered. Gaz looked stern. "Noel, to be a true artist you have to try new things. They might be scary at first, but they'll make you better and stronger." Noel looked apprehensive. "It's just too long Gaz!" "Nonsense! I'd be happier if it was longer to be honest with you!" Noel looked pained. "It just won't fit!" he exclaimed. "Goddamit Noel, if we can't fit this 37 minute version of The Mexican on there we'll just make it a double album!" Before I read the end of that I was convinced that Gaz was forcing Noel to try an extra long sausage full of herbs.
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Post by mossy on May 21, 2015 8:02:56 GMT -5
What now really pisses me off is that Noel and the AA had a rebound/make good project in the works after the "failed AA" sessions. That being the "remix/reimagined" Chasing Yesterday. Now that is blown to hell as well. Very frustrating. Why do all of Noel's ambitious projects die a cruel death? After the original sessions Noel also played on 5 of the AA's tracks for their album, The Cartel in late 2013, so things must have cool between them right up until it came to light which versions of The Right Stuff and The Mexican were being released, especially if they were reworking the whole of Chasing Yesterday. It's a disappointing situation to watch unfold, especially as we don't know the proper background to it all. Apart from The Right Stuff, the album hasn't really grown on me. It's good but my favourite two songs from the cycle have been the Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes of Riverman and Mighty I. If the AA are out the window then these guys maybe the ones to take Noel out of his comfort zone. The thing is, remixes don't take Noel out of his comfort zone. Gaz said that's exactly what he tried to do with Noel - get him to record differently, jam, write in the studio, travel round India(!) but in the end Noel just wanted them to essentially remix him. It doesn't matter who does the remixes - it's them being creative, not Noel. (Don't get me wrong, I'd love for that Massive Attack, Rudimental, AA, Beyond... remix EP/album to come out)
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Post by Jim on May 21, 2015 8:34:19 GMT -5
After the original sessions Noel also played on 5 of the AA's tracks for their album, The Cartel in late 2013, so things must have cool between them right up until it came to light which versions of The Right Stuff and The Mexican were being released, especially if they were reworking the whole of Chasing Yesterday. It's a disappointing situation to watch unfold, especially as we don't know the proper background to it all. Apart from The Right Stuff, the album hasn't really grown on me. It's good but my favourite two songs from the cycle have been the Beyond The Wizard's Sleeve mixes of Riverman and Mighty I. If the AA are out the window then these guys maybe the ones to take Noel out of his comfort zone. The thing is, remixes don't take Noel out of his comfort zone. Gaz said that's exactly what he tried to do with Noel - get him to record differently, jam, write in the studio, travel round India(!) but in the end Noel just wanted them to essentially remix him. It doesn't matter who does the remixes - it's them being creative, not Noel. (Don't get me wrong, I'd love for that Massive Attack, Rudimental, AA, Beyond... remix EP/album to come out) Really good point about the others being creative, not Noel and how he just wants remixed. By the looks of it he's never going to change his ways to the extent of the AA or even the Wizard's Sleeve no matter how much he eludes to recording something "out there". Shame.
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Post by andymorris on May 21, 2015 8:53:34 GMT -5
Gaz said that's exactly what he tried to do with Noel - get him to record differently, jam, write in the studio, travel round India(!) So basically be the Beatles Mk II ? Plus de Beatles retreat in India is now abandoned and left to nature so it wouldnt have been EXACTLY the same, Gaz.
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Post by thomuk2006 on May 21, 2015 9:59:01 GMT -5
Who Feels Love? “It’s a bit Dear Prudence, a bit Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, very much Oasis and really big. But you can dance to it. I wrote the song early in the morning in Thailand about one and a half years ago. I wanted away from London for a while. We visited lots of temples and I suppose I picked up the moods from there.”
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on May 21, 2015 10:05:36 GMT -5
Who Feels Love? “It’s a bit Dear Prudence, a bit Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, very much Oasis and really big. But you can dance to it. I wrote the song early in the morning in Thailand about one and a half years ago. I wanted away from London for a while. We visited lots of temples and I suppose I picked up the moods from there.” I love that song. One of my oasis faves, but that is such a cringey quote.
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Post by mossy on May 21, 2015 10:21:14 GMT -5
Gaz said that's exactly what he tried to do with Noel - get him to record differently, jam, write in the studio, travel round India(!) So basically be the Beatles Mk II ? Plus de Beatles retreat in India is now abandoned and left to nature so it wouldnt have been EXACTLY the same, Gaz. He should've just spiked Noel's tea with acid. He'd have been willing to play it smokey then.
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Post by mossy on May 27, 2015 10:59:53 GMT -5
Gaz hasn't posted anything on Facebook for ages. Wonder if Noel's heavies have silenced him...
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:01:00 GMT -5
Gaz hasn't posted anything on Facebook for ages. Wonder if Noel's heavies have silenced him... Maybe... Although it's been a few months since they released The Wizards of Oz compilation and they've done a lot of interviews about the Noel Gallagher album anyway, so as there's not much to promote or say he's probably gone back to working on new mixes/albums etc. // Btw, on that interview Noel said something about "not overthinking music" and "just releasing it and letting the fans decide"... Just saying...
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