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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 11, 2015 4:26:23 GMT -5
So this issue comes out Saturday then? I'm sure it never used to be a Saturday back when I used to buy any issue with Oasis on the front going back a few years
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Post by mossy on Feb 11, 2015 4:43:03 GMT -5
hehe they gonna try sabotage Noel's release. I guess we'll never know the truth, but if Noel simply recycled the AA sessions, that's a bad move In one of the recent foreign language interviews Noel said he'd used music recorded in those sessions. The mags out today - anyone been able to pick it up yet? Surprised the NME website hasn't published any teaser quote articles yet...
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Post by AubreyOasis on Feb 11, 2015 5:12:38 GMT -5
hehe they gonna try sabotage Noel's release. I guess we'll never know the truth, but if Noel simply recycled the AA sessions, that's a bad move In one of the recent foreign language interviews Noel said he'd used music recorded in those sessions. The mags out today - anyone been able to pick it up yet? Surprised the NME website hasn't published any teaser quote articles yet... Find scan attached (quality not very good, but I think it is readable). Not a big deal, anyway. The most surprising relevation is that AA did not know Noel was recording another album while working with them !. But there is not any bitter attack on Noel Attachments:NoelAA.pdf (176.07 KB)
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Post by andymorris on Feb 11, 2015 5:23:51 GMT -5
hehe they gonna try sabotage Noel's release. I guess we'll never know the truth, but if Noel simply recycled the AA sessions, that's a bad move In one of the recent foreign language interviews Noel said he'd used music recorded in those sessions... Well if he used it it's fair that they are credited as co producers then/ Judging by the piece on the NME up there (thanx, by the way), they got the money they asked for
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 11, 2015 5:26:19 GMT -5
28.11.2011, Noel's interview at Radio Deejay in Italy. He wasn't on air and he said: "My album with the AA is fuckin' brilliant"
Probably he thought that the album wasn't good enough and these guys wanted the credits, not only for the producing side of the record. At the and of the day the name on the cover is "Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds" not "AA, nobody gives a shit about us"
Gaz Cobain should know that he's no one and Noel is the biggest songwriter of the last 20 years. If he says something that Noel doesn't like he'll take him in front of a judge.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 5:30:54 GMT -5
Nothing at all in it.
Not trying to crawl up Noel's backside here and I think he's acted like a total dick but I don't believe their claim that they didn't know of the other album. They say that Noel left them in complete control and often want at the sessions. Seems unlikely that he'd leave his planned first solo album entirely in their hands.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Feb 11, 2015 5:33:22 GMT -5
In one of the recent foreign language interviews Noel said he'd used music recorded in those sessions. The mags out today - anyone been able to pick it up yet? Surprised the NME website hasn't published any teaser quote articles yet... Find scan attached (quality not very good, but I think it is readable). Not a big deal, anyway. The most surprising relevation is that AA did not know Noel was recording another album while working with them !. But there is not any bitter attack on Noel Thanks, capanb2000. Not a lot of information, I wonder if the NME cut all the controversial stuff or if Gaz was genuinely nice towards Noel. Though it kind of confirms what we've said here many times: Noel didn't have a lot of input on the AA sessions and probably wasn't completely satisfied with the final product since it reflected a foreign vision of his music. The AA think it's great, Noel doesn't and there's the conflict. We'll have to wait to get our hands on Chasing Yesterday and look at the credits, but I think it's fair enough if he's used material or ideas from the sessions and credited AA as producers. On the other hand, I understand Gaz's disappointment in being let down after putting such an effort on the album. At the end of the day, it's Noel's right to cancel something he wouldn't be proud to release and we'll all just have to move on. Hopefully the most experimental touches in the new album will be well received and we might look forward to more artistic risks from Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 6:41:43 GMT -5
Not sure whether that's the end of it... From Gaz's FB: "UPDATE - yes just seen it -anti inflammatory sedatives all round > they clearly know which side their bread is buttered . NME = Smash Hits " www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=346793565511698&set=p.346793565511698&type=1&permPage=1So, it sounds like they probably said a lot more against Noel than the NME would let on... EDIT: On the Amorphous Androgynous page, slightly clearer wording : "Here goes .... Maintaining the love but proposing some truths UPDATE - Hmmm the NME clearly know which way their bread is buttered - good job we filmed it -wow ! Anti inflammatory sedatives - smash hits or something ?"
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2015 6:59:18 GMT -5
Sounds like the NME took some stuff out in favor of Noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2015 7:01:50 GMT -5
Nothing earth shattering in that Gaz interview but it was nice to finally officially hear something from him. He's disappointed. I get that. I am too. Eventually we will hear more of these sessions...............eventually.
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Post by scott1 on Feb 11, 2015 7:06:25 GMT -5
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 7:38:03 GMT -5
just put the damn album online, let us be the judge of it. If shoot a hole into the sun is anything to go by the album will be about 6 hours long
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 7:44:41 GMT -5
just put the damn album online, let us be the judge of it. If shoot a hole into the sun is anything to go by the album will be about 6 hours long Flaming Lips have been there, done that... In relative terms, the Amorphous Androgynous songs aren't even that long. There are a few bands out there that do 20 minute songs as standard, 5 minute ones effectively as short interludes and 40 minute/hour long songs as the main centre of the album
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 7:54:18 GMT -5
i don't mind long songs, but i hate them when it becomes repetitive
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 8:01:33 GMT -5
i don't mind long songs, but i hate them when it becomes repetitive Sometimes repetition's good, depends on personal taste tbh... Like how some people hated the repetitiveness of Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, but others thought it worked really well
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 8:04:50 GMT -5
i don't mind long songs, but i hate them when it becomes repetitive Sometimes repetition's good, depends on personal taste tbh... Like how some people hated the repetitiveness of Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, but others thought it worked really well true, but repetitive in an It's Getting Better(Man)!!! kind of way is pretty shit
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 8:08:48 GMT -5
Sometimes repetition's good, depends on personal taste tbh... Like how some people hated the repetitiveness of Shoot a Hole Into the Sun, but others thought it worked really well true, but repetitive in an It's Getting Better(Man)!!! kind of way is pretty shit Yeah, that's the sort of repetitiveness I find boring... I've heard songs that are 70 minutes long that are less boring than the last 4 or so minutes of It's Getting Better(Man)...
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 11, 2015 8:10:23 GMT -5
shoot a hole into the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun
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shoot a hole into the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 8:14:35 GMT -5
shoot a hole into the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun aaaah aaaaah aaaaah aaaaaah shoot a hole into the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun the sun I see your point (all 568 words of it...), but I like the repetition of 'the sun'... Feels like summer... Beats this by a long shot in my opinion...: Put yer money where yer mouth is Yer mamma sez that you was real Put yer money where yer mouth is Yer mamma sez that you was real
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Post by LlAM on Feb 11, 2015 8:15:35 GMT -5
hehe they gonna try sabotage Noel's release. I guess we'll never know the truth, but if Noel simply recycled the AA sessions, that's a bad move Why is that a bad move? Do you know what the agreement was from the beginning? Weren't AA payed for their studio-time? Maybe they had a contract saying that Noel could use all creative input as he wished? There are too many details we don't know about to start picking sides.
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 8:16:44 GMT -5
true, but repetitive in an It's Getting Better(Man)!!! kind of way is pretty shit Yeah, that's the sort of repetitiveness I find boring... I've heard songs that are 70 minutes long that are less boring than the last 4 or so minutes of It's Getting Better(Man)... could you give me some songtitles, alway in for discovering new music
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 8:32:28 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the sort of repetitiveness I find boring... I've heard songs that are 70 minutes long that are less boring than the last 4 or so minutes of It's Getting Better(Man)... new music could you give me some songtitles, alway in for discovering Most of the stuff I like is psychedelic/ambient/rock etc... A.M.T- Electric Psilocybin Flashback Bardo Pond- Datura Difficult naming individual songs, some of the albums I like are... Come With Us Dig Your Own Hole - Chemical Brothers Embryonic The Terror - Flaming Lips Organik - Robert Miles The Isness - Amorphous Androgynous ISDN - Future Sound of London Lapsed Set and Setting Ticket Crystals - Bardo Pond New Geocentric World of Acid Mothers Temple Crystal Rainbow Pyramid Under the Stars Penultimate Galactic Bordello Also The World You Made* - Acid Mothers Temple *(250 minute long album spread across four songs...) Yeah, sorry, I know you asked for songs, couldn't really do it... more of an album person... I've roughly put it in order of how weird the music is
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 9:26:58 GMT -5
nice one thank you
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Post by andymorris on Feb 11, 2015 10:05:49 GMT -5
hehe they gonna try sabotage Noel's release. I guess we'll never know the truth, but if Noel simply recycled the AA sessions, that's a bad move Why is that a bad move? Do you know what the agreement was from the beginning? Weren't AA payed for their studio-time? Maybe they had a contract saying that Noel could use all creative input as he wished? There are too many details we don't know about to start picking sides. Maybe, maybe. But It's always better to give credit when due than to say nothing. Noel has a long history of "stealing" (even though i disagree with most of them), he'd better not add this. He's always wanted co-producing credits on his songs, and that's fine, but he should give the credit when due. I dont like those guys or their music, but if one of their note in on the record, they have to be credited. seems like they will. So good. that's all i'm saying.
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Post by asimarx on Feb 11, 2015 10:20:14 GMT -5
This is all getting weird. If the AA could just for once, in simple words, describe in a chronologic way how the recording process went along and why exactly they think it would have been groundbreaking. I'm really interested in how the songs developed, sounded and were arranged. How should we as fans comprehend their position and why Noel abandoned it, if we have no idea what the album was like. They should just leak it. There, I said it. Hope we get to see the video they've recorded of the interview.
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