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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 19:42:09 GMT -5
I swear to God I'll start a kickstarter to help pay AA's legal fees if they " leak" this album. I think they're officially known as leakal fees.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 14, 2015 19:43:01 GMT -5
Having read through these posts of Gaz's I think it could be a very smart move if Liam were to align himself with AA for a future project. Liam's can be pretty solid in terms of a songs initial structure, however many people voice their concern over his ability to develop them. With Beady Eye it often felt Andy or Gem (or Sitek) were filling this roll and with some success too (i.e. Flick of the Finger). Gaz seems like he'd be open to a collaboration with Liam and I reckon Liam is more ambitious and more ballsy than his brother and would follow it through. The biggest blockade would be Liam's own musical talent. They somewhat successful managed to milk some material outta Noel, but Liam? Nah. They'd have to contribute a tonne of work, however churning out material seems pretty easy for them. Liam needs time... Personally I don't think it'd ever happen, Liam's too old school, however it'd be a great story and funny way to get one over his brother. Liam & Mr Bits.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 19:44:43 GMT -5
Having read through these posts of Gaz's I think it could be a very smart move if Liam were to align himself with AA for a future project. Liam's can be pretty solid in terms of a songs initial structure, however many people voice their concern over his ability to develop them. With Beady Eye it often felt Andy or Gem (or Sitek) were filling this roll and with some success too (e.e. Flick of the Finger). Gaz seems like he'd be open to a collaboration with Liam and I reckon Liam is more ambitious and more ballsy than his brother and would follow it through. The biggest blockade would be Liam's own musical talent. They somewhat successful managed to milk some material outta Noel, but Liam? Nah. They'd have to contribute a lot on their behalf. Personally I don't think it'd ever happen, Liam's too old school, however it'd be a great story and funny way to get one over his brother. Liam & Mr Bits. What would be even funnier is if they incorporated some of Noel's 'lost' tunes into Liam's work.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 14, 2015 19:49:52 GMT -5
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Post by carryusall on May 14, 2015 19:50:29 GMT -5
Having read through these posts of Gaz's I think it could be a very smart move if Liam were to align himself with AA for a future project. Liam's can be pretty solid in terms of a songs initial structure, however many people voice their concern over his ability to develop them. With Beady Eye it often felt Andy or Gem (or Sitek) were filling this roll and with some success too (i.e. Flick of the Finger). Gaz seems like he'd be open to a collaboration with Liam and I reckon Liam is more ambitious and more ballsy than his brother and would follow it through. The biggest blockade would be Liam's own musical talent. They somewhat successful managed to milk some material outta Noel, but Liam? Nah. They'd have to contribute a tonne of work, however churning out material seems pretty easy for them. Liam needs time... Personally I don't think it'd ever happen, Liam's too old school, however it'd be a great story and funny way to get one over his brother. Liam & Mr Bits. Liam should go for it. It's the only way I can see him getting one over on Noel, and his voice would lend itself far more to their style than Noel's. And he'd shrug off criticisms of being musically conservative whilst still making music on the mould of the 60s acts he loves. Win-Win really, a whole album of Scorpio Rising, bring it on
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 14, 2015 19:56:09 GMT -5
The LEAK is imminent!
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Post by matt on May 14, 2015 20:00:13 GMT -5
This is an interesting one, which I think no one has posted yet... Feels like Gaz is stepping up the pace. Gaz rebuffing Liam's words on Noel's solo album being a somewhat secretive affair...?The rest of Oasis - apart from Noel - seemed pretty open to a new producer? Yet Noel persisted in having Dullard Sardy on board? Fair play to Liam, Andy and Gem - any suggestion that Noel was "held back" is just Noel himself covering his tracks for being boring and unambitious! More plot twists than an M Night Shamalamadingdong film. Perhaps we've just got to come to the conclusion that Noel will forever remain in his comfort zone, and ultimately, be unexciting from this day on.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 14, 2015 20:04:15 GMT -5
I wonder if the "remix" Chasing Yesterday album Noel mentioned was originally going to be this AA version?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 14, 2015 20:08:07 GMT -5
This is an interesting one, which I think no one has posted yet... Feels like Gaz is stepping up the pace. Gaz rebuffing Liam's words on Noel's solo album being a somewhat secretive affair...?The rest of Oasis - apart from Noel - seemed pretty open to a new producer? Yet Noel persisted in having Dullard Sardy on board? More plot twists than an M Night Shamalamadingdong film. Oh jeeze, I somehow didn't even register that. Noel. Haters. Haters. Noel. A respectively produced Amorphous Androgynous 'Dig Out Your Soul' + Record Machine/Come On Outside (ect.) would have been the bomb. Imagine dropping that after 'Don't Believe the Truth'. I think Noel was having nightmares about 'Be Here Now x10'.
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Post by Manualex on May 14, 2015 20:10:08 GMT -5
The rest of Oasis - apart from Noel - seemed pretty open to a new producer? Yet Noel persisted in having Dullard Sardy on board? More plot twists than an M Night Shamalamadingdong film. Oh jeeze, I somehow didn't even register that. Noel. Haters. Haters. Noel. A respectively produced Amorphous Androgynous 'Dig Out Your Soul' + Record Machine/Come On Outside (ect.) would have been the bomb. Imagine dropping that after 'Don't Believe the Truth'. I think Noel was having nightmares about 'Be Here Now x10'. But it is stupid, DM & MG are going to bring all the money that he could need for the rest of his life.
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Post by matt on May 14, 2015 20:13:17 GMT -5
This is an interesting one, which I think no one has posted yet... Feels like Gaz is stepping up the pace. Gaz rebuffing Liam's words on Noel's solo album being a somewhat secretive affair...?How can EVERYONE in the world not realise that Oasis had become boring fuds apart from Noel? "Under-utilised" is certainly the right term for them.... Boring guitars, rehashed songs, DAVE SARDY... Christ!
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Post by matt on May 14, 2015 20:16:27 GMT -5
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 14, 2015 20:20:57 GMT -5
This is an interesting one, which I think no one has posted yet... Feels like Gaz is stepping up the pace. Gaz rebuffing Liam's words on Noel's solo album being a somewhat secretive affair...?How can EVERYONE in the world not realise that Oasis had become boring fuds apart from Noel? "Under-utilised" is certainly the right term for them.... Boring guitars, rehashed songs, DAVE SARDY... Christ! I have mixed opinions on whether they were "under-utilised", 'Different Gear Still Speeding', no? However Andy Bell really should have had a different roll within the band (Beady Eye too). 'Turn Up The Sun' is great of course, but Andy should have been the experimental guy, the texture guy. Maybe people will disagree with this but Andy should have been producing more stuff in the vein of 'Grapefruit' and getting some kind of Liam vocal on top, i.e. Death In Vegas/Prodigy. Maybe it'd be shit, but people couldn't complain that the band were backwards facing.
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Post by carryusall on May 14, 2015 20:27:34 GMT -5
How can EVERYONE in the world not realise that Oasis had become boring fuds apart from Noel? "Under-utilised" is certainly the right term for them.... Boring guitars, rehashed songs, DAVE SARDY... Christ! I have mixed opinions on whether they were "under-utilised", 'Different Gear Still Speeding', no? However Andy Bell really should have had a different roll within the band (Beady Eye too). 'Turn Up The Sun' is great of course, but Andy should have been the experimental guy, the texture guy. Maybe people will disagree with this but Andy should have been producing more stuff in the vein of 'Grapefruit' and getting some kind of Liam vocal on top, i.e. Death In Vegas/Prodigy. Maybe it'd be shit, but people couldn't complain that the band were backwards facing. I largely agree with that, he was definitely trying too hard to write Oasis songs. But he knows his way around a tune, Inreckon if he hadn't been trying to write songs that sounded like Oasis, he could have made big songwriting contributions. Would have loved to see stuff like grapefruit with Liam vox tho, good shout
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 14, 2015 20:33:40 GMT -5
This back and forth is going to come to a head eventually. World War 3 guys.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 14, 2015 20:34:38 GMT -5
I have mixed opinions on whether they were "under-utilised", 'Different Gear Still Speeding', no? However Andy Bell really should have had a different roll within the band (Beady Eye too). 'Turn Up The Sun' is great of course, but Andy should have been the experimental guy, the texture guy. Maybe people will disagree with this but Andy should have been producing more stuff in the vein of 'Grapefruit' and getting some kind of Liam vocal on top, i.e. Death In Vegas/Prodigy. Maybe it'd be shit, but people couldn't complain that the band were backwards facing. I largely agree with that, he was definitely trying too hard to write Oasis songs. But he knows his way around a tune, Inreckon if he hadn't been trying to write songs that sounded like Oasis, he could have made big songwriting contributions. Would have loved to see stuff like grapefruit with Liam vox tho, good shout It's weird, you'd have though Noel, Mr. Acid House, Mr. Setting Sun, would have been pushing for this, but I guess not. He should see it as a modern take on their earlier sound, 'Columbia'/'Better Let You Know'/'Snakebite'...
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Post by Manualex on May 14, 2015 20:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:42:55 GMT -5
Liam should collaborate with the AA and, most importantly, shouldn't rush any project he enters into.
Remember, time is the leash on the dog of ideas.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 14, 2015 20:46:59 GMT -5
The sound you make is muzak to my ears You must have learned something all those years How do you sleep? Ah how do you sleep at night?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:50:25 GMT -5
The sound you make is muzak to my ears You must have learned something all those years How do you sleep? Ah how do you sleep at night? El Mexicano took you by surprise You better see right through that brother's eyes
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Post by matt on May 14, 2015 20:50:37 GMT -5
How can EVERYONE in the world not realise that Oasis had become boring fuds apart from Noel? "Under-utilised" is certainly the right term for them.... Boring guitars, rehashed songs, DAVE SARDY... Christ! I have mixed opinions on whether they were "under-utilised", 'Different Gear Still Speeding', no? However Andy Bell really should have had a different roll within the band (Beady Eye too). 'Turn Up The Sun' is great of course, but Andy should have been the experimental guy, the texture guy. Maybe people will disagree with this but Andy should have been producing more stuff in the vein of 'Grapefruit' and getting some kind of Liam vocal on top, i.e. Death In Vegas/Prodigy. Maybe it'd be shit, but people couldn't complain that the band were backwards facing. Andy Bell is a very versatile songwriter - there's that Soundcloud mix of some collage he did recently? Can't remember its name, but there was a lot of texture and sonic expansion there that I would dearly love to hear Liam's voice on. The sad thing about Beady Eye is they had all the tools at their disposal to be something really worthwhile I think. Fair enough, most people here really enjoy them and I can't take that away, but I mean worthwhile as something that will get non-Oasis fans to sit up and listen. A bit like how New Order or Gorillaz could attract more than just Joy Division and Blur fans.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 14, 2015 20:57:17 GMT -5
You live with straights who tell you you was king Jump when your mamma tell you anything The only thing you done was yesterday and since you've gone it's just another day How do you sleep?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 20:57:59 GMT -5
You live with straights who tell you you was king Jump when your mamma tell you anything The only thing you done was yesterday and since you've gone it's just another day How do you sleep?
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Post by jakob61907 on May 14, 2015 21:25:57 GMT -5
It's become pretty apparent that Noel just makes up stories to fit his own agenda knowing the press will eat up every word. He's a very smart and savvy man who knows how to work people. I see more and more everyday why this made Liam so angry with him all the time.
I just want this damn thing released!!
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Post by andymorris on May 14, 2015 23:50:15 GMT -5
That guy seems rather angry about the Mexican (which, clearly, isn't the best song in the world, but whatever)... He still got credits for it so shut up. A lot more credits, for instance, than Paul Stacey, who has been shaping, playing on Noel's albums and couple of Oasis ones.
Another example : Flick of Finger. Sitek probably completely changed the song, but Beady Eye are the only ones getting songwriting credits. I might be old school too, but the guy who brings the song is the writer. The rest will always be producing and arranging.
Another example: Blur with 13. William Orbit changed the songs a lot. Producing credits only...
His facebook posts smell as much ego as Noel to me. The Truth is probably somewhere inbetween. This will leak for sure in the next months.
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